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    Can't wait for this to come out

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    Considering you can get an electric ferrari killer for under 50k, you would think they would be somewhat popular by now.

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    That is something I have never understood - electric motors have WAY WAY more torque and RPM potential than any gas/combustion engine and yet they are rarely explored in performance automobiles.

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    The oil companies are very powerful. That's all you need to understand.
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    Those cars are cute, Id buy one.

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    I heard about that, something about the government being involved in pulling electric cars off the market. Propoganda? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. IMO, they were too expensive when they were new and they didn't have all the features that the majority of the population wanted. I mean, they look like roller skates, I don't know a lot of peple who like to drive roller skates. I think it may have had a little more to do with marketing and some other factors, I'm not sure I would call it a conspiracy as the trailer seems to lead to. America, in general, wants bigger, louder, stronger etc. (hence the hummers mentioned in the trailer) and whether or not the electric cars could hold their own or not when it comes to power, I think it just wasn't marketed correctly. I was waiting for them to get better and cheaper over time and I'm a little bummed that it didn't happen.

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    ^^^ Don't worry, they will become better and cheaper - but it will be foreign car makers doing it - not the US car makers... who will continue to loose market share and face bankruptcies.

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    i dont understand-what happens for road trips? Where do you "plug it in"? What if it runs out of charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorsicaFire
    i dont understand-what happens for road trips? Where do you "plug it in"? What if it runs out of charge?

    There was a time when people thought it ridiculous to think a model A could cross to the next city - but technology improved - better infrastructures such as road ways (instead of mud pits) and distributed fuel appeared....

    Someday, Toyota (or who ever else as a dealership in every major city), will come up with the idea of repowering up at their dealership location(s). Can you think of a better way to get business walking through your car lot or getting a quick oil change in the service bay?

    Once others see the money potential - they will follow suit.

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    Is there any meat to that innuendo? I mean, there's a statement, "Who killed the electric car," and you see flashing pictures of Bush, Rice, and GM stuff, but not one definitive statement to link it up.

    You mean that Japanese car companies that started producing hybrid cars (using electric motors) and getting a subsidy for them are afraid to build completely electric cars? Honda is ramping up to introduce a hydrogen fuel cell car but would be afraid to build an electric? I'm sorry - that's a stretch. Did GM make the other car companies not follow a potential profit model? Did the U.S. government somehow outlaw electric cars suddenly and secretly? How did they stop those production lines in Detroit, Ohio, Tennessee, Illinois, California - not to mention Sweden, Germany, Japan, Korea, and so on, when they couldn't even get American beef through the trade barriers?

    We had the Age of Industrialism. We saw the Age of Electronics. I think right now we're in the Age of Conspiracy. Make a claim, build up a web of innuendo and like-minded people to support it, edit the video with quick cuts, and you've got it, whether you're trying to have the President kill Vincent Foster, or hide an airliner that crashed on 9/11, or if you just want to make someone look stupider than they already are.

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    I haven't seen the movie so I can't say if the current administration is at fault or not.

    I do believe conspiracy plays a lot of role in hyping films and books these days - everything from Ann Coulter's godless liberals to David Brock's Republican Noise Machine. It generally turns out to be less of a conspiracy but an ideology.

    Keep that in mind when seeing any commercial these days. The main strategy these days seems to be pushing emotional buttons - like all advertising does.

    There is no doubt though, that policy decsisions DO effect the marketplace and what is available in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    Is there any meat to that innuendo? I mean, there's a statement, "Who killed the electric car," and you see flashing pictures of Bush, Rice, and GM stuff, but not one definitive statement to link it up.

    You mean that Japanese car companies that started producing hybrid cars (using electric motors) and getting a subsidy for them are afraid to build completely electric cars? Honda is ramping up to introduce a hydrogen fuel cell car but would be afraid to build an electric? I'm sorry - that's a stretch. Did GM make the other car companies not follow a potential profit model? Did the U.S. government somehow outlaw electric cars suddenly and secretly? How did they stop those production lines in Detroit, Ohio, Tennessee, Illinois, California - not to mention Sweden, Germany, Japan, Korea, and so on, when they couldn't even get American beef through the trade barriers?

    We had the Age of Industrialism. We saw the Age of Electronics. I think right now we're in the Age of Conspiracy. Make a claim, build up a web of innuendo and like-minded people to support it, edit the video with quick cuts, and you've got it, whether you're trying to have the President kill Vincent Foster, or hide an airliner that crashed on 9/11, or if you just want to make someone look stupider than they already are.
    So you make innuendos about innuendos?

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    Ran across the following link while looking for information on the Red Car trolleys being removed from Los Angeles. I remembered hearing some of my older relatives complaining about this when I was a child, and found a link

    http://blogging.la/archives/2005/10/return_of_the_red_car_to_atwat.phtml


    What I found of interest here was the last link from this page to a pdf, "Kennedy, 60 Minusts, and Roger Rabbit: Understanding Conspiracy-Theory Explanations of The Decline of Urban Mass Transit," by Martha J. Bianco. This paper was written in November of 1998 at Portland State University. This is the concluding paragraph of her 21-page analysis,

    "The GM conspiracy myth, understood in this way, makes a great deal of sense. It becomes irrelevant that GM did or did not cause or even contribute to the decline of mass transit in the U.S. What becomes compelling, from a larger perspective, is the manner in which the GM story is used, the political and econromic climates in which it is most likely to emerge, and the types of policy initiatives under consideration during the periods in which the story is being told. What should intrigue us is the power of the myth to attract a following. In this regard, the compelling nature of the myth's villain - the General Motors Corporation - speaks volumes. If we cannot cast GM, the producer and supplier of automobiles, as the ultimate enemy, then we end up with a shocking and nearly unfathomable alternative: What if the enemy is not the supplier, but rather the consumer? What if, to parapharase Oliver Perry, we have met the enemy, and the enemy is us?

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