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    I'm Looking for ideas to make more money dancing. Read the one my brother created at

    I tried the idea and it works!
    What else have you tried?

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    tell me how his advice will work in a club full of jaded assholes who want sex for 100$. i would love to know how to extract 2k a shift from that scenario without sex.

    it's not bad advice, but i can't see how it would work with men who don't care about the lady's pleasure at all.

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    Someone please nuke this add for Beauty Zone cosmetics!

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    "tell me how his advice will work in a club full of jaded assholes who want sex for 100$. i would love to know how to extract 2k a shift from that scenario without sex.
    it's not bad advice, but i can't see how it would work with men who don't care about the lady's pleasure at all."


    I hear ya! Maybe it worked for me because I don't work in a club full of jaded assholes! We have our fair share, mostly bullshitters though who all make millions. It's a mix of business men, party guys, and guys that don't have much more to do with their lives. I think the thing is that all guys think they want sex. What I have found after practicing this is that they ask for sex, but what they want is something deeper. But they don't know themselves well enough to ask for that, so they ask for sex instead and offer a few bucks. I get that too - often

    Have you ever bought a new car? What did you ask for? You asked for a car. maybe a certain color or style. Let's get fancy and say its a Ferarri. What did you REALLY want though? Did you want a car? I would bet not. For someone asking for a Ferarri You probably really just wanted to feel important. The car is only a tool to make you feel important. Just imagine driving down the road in one! What would your friends say?

    I really do think guys ask for sex thinking they want sex, not understanding themselves well enough to know that they are really wanting to be open with another person. If you don't get offended by the request, and DO stay within your personal limits (I know it gets old), and instead ask them why they want to have sex with you, maybe you could help them realize this.

    Then again, maybe they are so unaware that they are not capable of handling even that! If that's the case, take care of yourself and put yourself around men who are more open and decent! By the way, you can't have that conversation in a group setting. I do a lot of couch dances so I can talk with the guys.

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    Another thought that just occured to me.

    You stated "but i can't see how it would work with men who don't care about the lady's pleasure at all".

    Go back to the website and read it again. It clearly states that you do not care about what the guys think. From the comment above in your own mind, you are trying to "GET THE GUY TO DO SOMETHING". Reality is that NOBODY can GET someone to do anything! That's called manipulation.

    The ONLY thing you can control is YOURSELF. Remember, he DOESN'T have to care about YOUR pleasure. YOU DO! He doesn't matter - and that's the whole point! When you get your OWN mind to the point of just enjoying yourself (knowing your own limits) and not faking it, these guys will WANT to be around you and will pay you to be.

    This took me SOOOOO long to understand! I kept trying to get other people to change - until I realized I have no control over them. The only thing I control is me. I started doing what I do for me and just enjoyed it. And as I changed, they reacted to it. Some guys did stop asking me to dance. But better ones came along and I have more money to show for it.

    What I have realized is that this business is all about psychology. So is sales. So is life.

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    So where is this club where the customers all make millions??????????????????!

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    Denver. I said they "claim" to make millions. A lot of bullshitters! Although, there are a number of professional athletes that drop by. They have millions, but many are arrogant asses! Some are OK.

    If you work in Denver, be warned - almost all the clubs here are owned by the "evil empire". Nearly every major club is owned by the same company. So if you get fired, you might have to think about moving to another city. There are some other clubs that are OK, but not many.

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    ohh, you work in a low contact area!

    see, i work in a town with a lot of strip-club goers who make relatively small sums of money. we're talking guys who make 8-12$ an hour. we of course get in guys who make more money being electricians or whatnot, but it's a total working-class vibe, even among the upscale clubs to an extent.

    also, the clubs are all FLOODED with dancers. and plenty of them are desperate.

    i like myself and get plenty of customers wanting to spend on me, but it only means they offer me more money for sex. :-(

    most customers in my town are not imaginative. they want the reality. the few guys who do want fantasy are lucrative, but they simply don't have the money to give a dancer 2k a shift. maybe 500 with some regularity, but not much more. that is just the way this town is.

    i mean, that's the thing. i pretty well follow the advice on that site, and i simply cannot say it yields superhigh returns. it is probably very handy in lower contact parts of the country, though, where guys cannot get sex in private rooms or booths easily (here the clubs were built to encourage that sort of thing :-( ).

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    Whether you choose to give the guy sex or not, that's up to you. Again, it all depends on your personal limits. Whether you do or don't, it doesn't matter. What matters is the frame of mind you have about YOU! If you don't feel good about yourself - For REAL, it will show through your body language. You first must feel GREAT about YOU. Then SHARE that feeling with those around you. You must feel GENUINELY happy about you?

    Here's a question I've asked other girls. Do you dance for your boyfriend? Most say no. I ask why not? They say it would be too embarrassing for someone they know that well. It's too weird.

    If you REALLY feel GREAT about you, and you are open to sharing your "personal self" with those you care about, why is it so difficult with your boyfriend?

    These are the unconscious thoughts many girls have - and don't know it. They look good, but not good enough for their boyfriend, or they "assume" he would not be interested. If you truly are OPEN and Feel good, he will not be able to resist you. Nor will your customers. This is a way you can test how good you feel about yourself. Maybe you do this already. I don't know.

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    This is not something you can just "TRY". You must fully DO it. An airplane cannot take off at half throttle. This don't work either at half throttle.

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    i don't think you understand. i am often genuinely happy to be there, and for the most part i only dance with customers who are into that fantasy. i have no shame about my body or my being in a club. i'm certainly not giving out sex for any amount of money. but i still get asked, and so do all the other girls, justdancers and extras girls alike. and none of your advice seems suited to deal with dancers working in areas where they will endlessly have to hear and maybe see other dancers having sex in the club for small amounts of money.

    but they haven't got any 2k to drop on me each night. that is MY point. that advice can help a dancer consistently be a top earner, but she will not be walking out with the figures quoted each night.

    no dancer here on this site, regardless of her attitude, walks with 2k a shift every night she works (and this includes the ones in the super-upscale clubs).

    fully doing it or not, the men with that kind of money are not around in such wonderful numbers as they may once have been, if ever.

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    VERY VERY INTERESTING!!!!!

    Let me ask a question: In your club, do the same customers (who make $10-$12 /hr) show up in your club EVERY night? Or is it a different set of customers who also make 10-12/hr? You are correct if it is the same customers every night because they only take home about $2000/month each. Let's also assume that more than 5 customers show up. Because if that's all the business you see ......time to find a new club!

    Let's assume you work at a club where maybe at least 100 or so customers come by nightly - which is what is necessary to be profitable for the club - so they are probably doing AT LEAST that. If business is slower than that - again, you've got to find another club or lead some kind of promotional event to bring customers in.

    Assuming those are not an issue, Listen to your words here for a moment....And this IS THE KEY....

    "but they haven't got any 2k to drop on me each night."

    Why are you making justifications and excuses for your customers???? Of course they have the money!!!!!! You just simply BELIEVE they do not. You have already decided in your own mind that they will NOT PAY FOR YOU!!! Your OWN mind is the roadblock here, not your customer!!!! And certainly not your customer's paycheck. You don't believe you are worth their money. Again, let me highlight your words to show you what you said (and it truly is unconscious).....

    "but they haven't got any 2k to drop on me each night."

    The human mind NEVER accepts it's negative opinion of itself. You won't believe me when I say this - and I know it will piss you off - because I felt the same way when a friend of mine worked with my mind as well and opened my eyes to the lies I always told myself. You are smart though - because you are at least asking questions. So please bear with me while I challenge your thoughts. Your unconscious mind does not believe you are worth $2k a night. But it cannot hold a negative opinion of itself (law of psychology). So it places the negative on an external factor - your customer - and blames them for your your lack of success.

    Now let me ask a question to challenge your belief that they don't have money. If those customers' car broke down on the way home from the club, would they be able to get money to have it fixed? How much would that cost? $200? $500? More? If their TV broke, would they be in Costco the next day picking up a new Plasma screen at a minimum of $800? Probably more like $1500? How much money did they spend on alchohol that night? $40?

    My point is: they have the money!!! They choose to not spend it on you.

    Years ago, I heard a friend say something similar over a matter of $50. She had a friend who had just did a kitchen remodel, and made the excuse for that person not tipping her because of all the expense of the kitchen project. Now, what's a kitchen remodel cost??? $5000 on the very low end? $60000 on the high end? What she was telling me was that if that kitchen remodel cost $5050 (just $50 more), then they could not have completed the remodeling project, right? Baloney! They had $50. They just decided to NOT spend it on her.

    So it all comes back to you. 1) You must not make excuses for you customers. They ALL have money, and they all make choices where to spend it. If you believe they will not spend it on YOU, don't expect them to! Even if your belief is unconscious. I FULLY EXPECT my customers to pay me! I'm worth it! I'm not nasty about it and I care for them, but I don't give myself away either. I simply choose who I share myself with. 2) You need to demostrate that worth to them. It starts in your mind, and then moves externally. "THINK" and grow rich!

    On an 8 hour shift, you have 480 minutes to work with. Let's say you you target having 20 customers all night for lap dances. We charge $40 per nude song (I always do nude - it pays more and I'm worth it). So I must have 50 lap dances all night to make $2k. At 3 minutes per song, I will spend 150 minutes all night dancing, or just over 2 solid hours. That leaves 330 minutes to do stage sets and meet guys. I do NOT hang out gabbing with other girls. And, I do NOT waste my time on guys that I sense are not interested. I target those who show an interest and invest my time there.

    Do I always make $2k a night. Hell no! But I almost always take home at least $1000. Now that I have built a supply of prospects who seek out me, instead of me chasing them! I have what they want. And I now know and understand what they want. And we have a great time!

    I know how I used to be. I made a decision to educate myself on how I think, and how others think. With the help of others who were close to me, that education has paid.

    This is a business about marketing and promotion run by vast number of people who do not know how to market and promote! And they don't know that they don't know.

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    well, at my club songs are 5-7 minutes long and generally guys expect to pay 40 per nude song or do 3/100 as a package deal after a 20$ vip fee (the vip fee is good all night). also, stage time generally takes up 1/2 hour to 1 hour each shift, with extremely variable tips. plus we have dollar dances and tshirt features (another 1.5 hours lost).

    guys bring their own liquor/beer. cover charge ranges from 7-15$.

    considering the number of guys who see their cards rejected by the ATM and are borrowing from multiple friends to pay a dancer, i can say it is pretty unlikely they have 2k for me or anyone else.

    that said, let's look at my numbers up there. songs at my club are twice as long as at your club, so i have half the potential opportunities to sell. and most customers again are trying to hit the girls up for sex (and about 70 percent of the other dancers are offering cheap sex).

    of the guys who will pay for justdances, most will do at least one 3/100, or maybe 2 40$ dances. but there's only 8-12 songs in an hour to work with. and over 5.5 hours (remember, one hour is for stage time), that means a total of 44-66 (average about 50 most nights) songs of selling time for the night.

    a girl would have to sell ten 3/100s (30 songs) to gross 1k and take it home (we'll assume stage tips and dollar dances cover housefees). so they would have to dance for over 3 hours just to get near 1k.

    i think in large clubs where the songs are cut, there's a chance of 2k in a shift, but not in my runty little dive with protective bouncers who never ask for money.

    since you are so swell at hustling, why don't you post some tips to hustle hut, so other girls can make 1k a night every night as you seem to?

    although i have to say, in breaking down the numbers for my club, you may be right that i'm not charging enough. i get a lot of guys paying me by the 1/2 hour or hour. and maybe i should just up the rates so i can have a couple more customers per night instead of the 1-4 i generally get these days.

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    THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR!!!! The Business Sense! The Math! And yes, your club can be different. Knowing the "possible" numbers if all goes perfectly is in fact the limit on earnings - unless you either improve the club and promote it to the outside world, or change clubs.

    In your case, if your club is in fact a "runty little dive", you may want to consider changing your work location. You have choices. Either stay and complain, or change. Ultimately, you are responsible for reaching your goal or your dreams.

    As far as "hustling", talks about how to build relationships with customers such that they last a long time. If you try to "hustle" them or "hit on" them, you are thinking short term. That's OK for now, but long term relationships provide steady cash flow that is reliable over the long term. I have several customers who have been with me for over 9 years! When you fill the real emotional needs of another person, laws of nature state that they will not leave you and they will help and protect you as best as they can.

    Believe that every problem has a solution. Keep looking for solutions and KNOW that what you "see" may not be real.

    Question: where is your club??? (approx - you don't have to be specific)

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    i'm quitting stripping in about six weeks. and i love my runty little dive because i can still make 700-1k per shift there if i apply myself up until my day of quitting. and 500+ is extremely easy to come by off 1-2 customers for the entire shift, very low stress. also, there are intangible benefits like the protectiveness of the staff. they never let guys get out of hand with us. i never feel trapped in a private room with a customer.

    every other club in the city is either more unsafe for the dancers or offers less money potential with one exception that i don't really care for because working topless irritates me (and that is always obvious).

    while i am definitely all for getting as much money as possible, i want to do so in a safe environment, so i suspect i'll just put in a bit more effort where i am at to take home a nice sum without exhausting myself.

    and i work in texas, where longish songs are the norm.

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    you seem really cool!! Always open to examining your own thoughts (which can be very hard to do for anyone). Because of that, you will go very far in life!

    Best wishes!

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    If anyone else had problems finding the punchline on that site, let me save you some time and paste his words of gold here:

    "I want YOU to experience with me my most sensual, pleasurable moments"

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    Not sure if you mean that in a positive or negative way.

    BTW...just met another rare girl yesterday that applies what the website says. I watched her make OVER $1000 in about 3 hours in a mostly blue-collar bar. When she was on stage, the entire place went crazy!! The guys all loved her - clapping, cheering, and all. The rest of the time, she was 100% in the VIP room with back-to-back lap dances. There was nothing facy about her looks, clothes, or dance. She just was a very happy person and had a desire to share that with all her customers. I asked her what she did differently and she stated that you have to completely feel good about yourself and what you do. She also said many girls do not. She clearly enjoys her job of making herself feel great and sharing that felling with everyone. Although she does admit that there are some customers she does not appreciate and avoids those customers.

    She said she almost always gets out of a 6 hour day with $2K. I believe her, and I watched it happen yesterday. It was daytime from about 1:00pm to 4:00pm, and there were only about 30 guys in the club - mostly construction types and couple of guys that looked like sales reps who were not working.


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    I can see how she is a money making machine. She was able to compress a 6 hour day into just 1PM to 4PM. Thats good stuff. You should charge for advise like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryflav
    Maybe it worked for me because I don't work in a club full of jaded assholes! We have our fair share, mostly bullshitters though who all make millions. It's a mix of business men, party guys, and guys that don't have much more to do with their lives.
    What club are you talking about?

    The occasional pro athlete notwithstanding, the clubs here don't exactly appear to me to be bursting at seams w/ millionaires (or "bullshitters" trying to look like millionaires).

    Despite the urban patina, this remains a cow town (particularly w/ telecom/IT still in something of a state of depression).

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    I see you are from Denver. I am not in Denver this week. It does not matter though. Everyone there has money too - even the poor people. In fact, they are poor because they spend so much of their money on all sorts of useless things like cigarettes, beer, TVs, cars, and yes, even us. If you don't believe me, just go to the local Costco or Walmart this next weekend and take a look around. You can barely get a parking spot. Then look at what is being bought - all must-haves? Hardly, it's all junk. They have money. They are just not spending it on you.

    Answer this question and you will know what message you truly communicate to your customers: Do you love what you do for your customer? Or do you do it to pay bills?

    Your body language will always communicate how you truly feel. So you have to truly feel good about what you do. The truth is, many girls do not. They are only in this business for a paycheck with no regard to the service they offer or how it makes their customers feel. Who do you like doing business with? Someone who loves what they do, or someone who is only trying to make a dollar?

    To truly be successful, you must love who you are and what you do. And when you have fun and are happy and confident, and you invite your customers to share in that, they will join you and pay you.

    I once heard Jenna Jameson on a talk show talking about her early years as a porn star. She had the looks, and "tried" the business to make money. She got by. Later, she DECIDED to do the business and treat it like a serious profession and put 110% into it. She gave every piece of her body and spirit to it. Look where she is at now! She decided to love what she did, and fully become it. Every person who is successful does this.

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    I was talkin' with a guy last night who had over $3,000 in his pocket. Not one girl came up to him to say hi (on a slow Sunday night) for nearly 35 minutes he said!

    What a great way to start off a new week! All he was looking for was someone to share some time with him!

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    $3000 dollars right. what did he give it to you? I find that customers who gloat about how much money they have were never really going to spend it anyway. One of the things that drives me crazy about this industry is the amount of dancers who inflate the amount they make, customers who claim they have all this money and then never spend, and most off all people who have never danced claiming they can tell me how to make more money. The class of the club, the local regulations, management, clientel class, cost of living in area, what look sells in that area well, tip out rates, how many girls are on the floor are all things that factor into how much we make. I am my own business. Right now it has been slow so it is all about sustaining myself and cutting costs.
    Everything I have learned about stripping I have learned from experience, by observation, and stripperweb. I call myself stripper MBA because I have my MBA from the University of Stripping. My experiences while they can be shared could not have been bought to give me the know how. That only came with time and wisdom earned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripperMBA
    One of the things that drives me crazy about this industry is the amount of dancers who inflate the amount they make, customers who claim they have all this money and then never spend, and most off all people who have never danced claiming they can tell me how to make more money..Si Dios Quiere
    I am so there with you on this!

    I was reading this post before..but ingored it. but I am thinkig about this---I hate ALL the men that are trying to tell me HOW am I supossed to make money in this business!
    Besides that the whole idea is contradicting itself -- right in here

    I really do think guys ask for sex thinking they want sex, not understanding themselves well enough to know that they are really wanting to be open with another person
    .

    ..but the act of sex is intimated or to be open with another person. ... so they do want to have sex -- sex is a form of intimacy!
    maybe not all of men in the clubs want to have sex.., but it its really a matter of the club itself on its mood and how its run, the system.
    as you said in your post you can't control someones thinking. that is true!
    so what exactly you do? you sell some sort of fake orgasm in the vip?
    well, i would like to know...
    mm

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