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    Oh, I knew. I could just smell the perversion and loathsomeness through the internet.
    It's just that what some guys call a "party girl" is probably, sometimes, just a normal girl.
    And back when I first started there weren't fluids and grinding (in fact, I could tell a story about the first guy who blew on my vagina. I felt completely violated. Looking back, of course, it's just amusing). Lapdancing had just been banned in Toronto and we naively dreamed that we could turn back the clock; and we were all under 20 and new - so our idea of good earnings was not as... well, we were content with a little as long as we were having fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage
    So next time a stripper rips off a customer who shocks her sensibilities by propositioning her, or comes down to SCJ to ask is "is this how you guys really think?" in emotional shock over some customer comment or action that she wouldn't tolerate from her BF, or is having a bad emotional day because some customer objectified her while she banks multiple $20 bills while the customer stares at her tits, or is emotionally offended because some of her customers aren't "gentlemen", I'll send her to you Phil.
    Firstly, I've always said dancers react to they way they're treated. Treat a girl like a "stripper" and she'll behave exactly as you expect her to behave. She's there to earn, and she sure as hell is not going to spend half her night explaining that she conforms to stereotype because that's the most efficient way to earn.

    These days I only go to venues to pick up a dancer, and most of the time I don't pay much attention to the dancing. Instead I sit down and chat (in a normal conversational manner) to the other girls I know and they react to me in the same way.

    I tend to have known these girls for several years, and they know I don't take it seriously, so they're quite happy to behave with me exactly the same way as they do in the 'real world'. We ain't trying to impress each other or manipulate each other - we're just chatting as if we would outside the venue - no dramas, no objectification, just bog standard conversation. Result - they don't bother conforming to stereotype.

    Secondly, it's work to most dancers. Probably 90% of the time they dance for punters whose behaviour they can live with. It's only the 10% of the time they meet an asshole you hear about it on here. It's what we all do - we only bitch about the exceptional and rapidly forget about the common place.

    Stripper web is not (IMHO) representative of either dancers or customers anyway. Only a small proportion of each post on here. I'll take a guess that about 200 dancers and slightly less customers post regularly - what percentage is that of the total dancer and customer population? People posting here are not exactly typical of the denizens of strip land - and again we only post about the interesting, not the mundane.

    How many dancers rip off customers big time, suffer from emotional shock or seriously object to being objectified? Not a large percentage I'd say - again the exception, not the rule. The great majority of dancers go home after each shift without suffering great dramas at work. And from my (limited) experience they don't spend a great deal of their time away from work agonising about their chosen vocation - life's too short.

    For most of them it's just a way of earning a living that suits their inclinations. Most dancers have some degree of exhibistionistic streak - they wouldn't do what they do otherwise - but I've not exactly noticed them stripping off unless they get paid for it. They do what they do in the unusual environment of a strip club, and when they leave they go back to being little miss normal.

    Sure, if I put my mind to it, I can find dancers who fit the 'manipulative bitch' stereotype. One girl I know has taken a rich guy obsessed with her for approaching $250K. She's also got the most armour plated emotions that I know - I suspect she's incapable of having a normal relationship with a guy - all they are is a source of funds to her. But this dancer is very much the exception to the rule.

    Sorry if I make it all very boring and mundane, but the great majority of dancers seem to lead lives pretty much the same as the rest of us. It might be far more interesting to concentrate on the few that don't, but it's also very misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Oh, I knew. I could just smell the perversion and loathsomeness through the internet.
    It's just that what some guys call a "party girl" is probably, sometimes, just a normal girl.
    And back when I first started there weren't fluids and grinding (in fact, I could tell a story about the first guy who blew on my vagina. I felt completely violated. Looking back, of course, it's just amusing). Lapdancing had just been banned in Toronto and we naively dreamed that we could turn back the clock; and we were all under 20 and new - so our idea of good earnings was not as... well, we were content with a little as long as we were having fun.
    Jenny, are you trying to tempt me to go to toronto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    So maybe the error is that it is not so much a "stripper" cliche, as a young woman cliche?
    Agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Looking back, of course, it's just amusing).
    Well this is the thing. Most of what is being talked about has little to do with what is, and lot to do with how the dancers and customers feel about it (which changes with experience). And a lot, on both sides, go through a naive period where they take it all too seriously for their own good. Guys getting emotionally serious about strippers, strippers internalizing and taking it personally when a customer turns them down or pushes the limits, different sides of the same coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W
    Firstly, I've always said dancers react to they way they're treated. Treat a girl like a "stripper" and she'll behave exactly as you expect her to behave. She's there to earn...
    Seriously, stop. Think about what you wrote. 'Treat a girl like a "stripper", and she'll behave...'

    You're doing the typical PL thing and implying that being a stripper in a strip club is a bad thing.

    That's what you don't get. There is nothing wrong with acting like a stripper in a strip club, nor is there anything wrong with customers enjoying strippers acting like strippers in a strip club. If you're arguing that customers should treat dancers like dates, gentlemen, boyfriends, goddess worshiping bitchboys, friends, or anything but a stripper, then you're being another one of the PLs that just doesn't get it.

    It's a strip club, she gets to treat you like a customer, you get to treat her like a stripper, don't take it anymore seriously then that, that's all it is. You don't need to try to be their friends, or impress them, or anything else, it's just entertainment, and being a stripper (and treating a dancer like one in a SC environment) doesn't mean anything more then treating a waiter like a waiter in a restaurant, or a salesman like a salesman in a store. It's not derogatory to think of the strippers in a strip club as strippers (unless it is that you have it in the back of your mind that being a stripper is really a bad thing - do you Phil???)

    I think the difference between you and I is that while I go to unwind after several months of hard work, you seem to go to try and build long term relationships with them. I don't want that. It's not the place for it. I'm just going for the purpose of having a good time, and then I'm done with it for a few more months. I don't want to be the dancers friends, I don't want to drive them home at night, or get to know them, or what's going on in their lives, it's just not the place to do that. And on the flip side, if I'm respecting a strippers boundaries, and I'm paying her well, why should she give a damn if I think of her as a stripper in a strip club?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover
    Jenny, are you trying to tempt me to go to toronto?
    I think we've well, truly, completely and in all other ways established that
    1. I scare you
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    2. I don't need to smell your perversion any better than I do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage
    Seriously, stop. Think about what you wrote. 'Treat a girl like a "stripper", and she'll behave...'

    Hmm... I guess you got it all figured out eh?

    I've actually made a lot of friends in the club.. and im not talking dancers. I've become friends with a lot of customers. When a customer treats me like a humane being rather then a stripper I tend to treat them a lot better then I would treat a 'customer'. But again this comes down to what a guy is looking for in the club. Alot of guys go for conversation, others go for 'extra' services and others go for just the quick lap dance, pay the girl and get the fuck out. Now dont get me wrong, I like the 'give me my dance and let me leave' customer because i can make my quick money and move on to the next. But yea I also love the guys who are there to chill with the girls and have a good time. To each is own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cally
    Hmm... I guess you got it all figured out eh?

    I've actually made a lot of friends in the club.. and im not talking dancers. I've become friends with a lot of customers. When a customer treats me like a humane being rather then a stripper I tend to treat them a lot better then I would treat a 'customer'. But again this comes down to what a guy is looking for in the club. Alot of guys go for conversation, others go for 'extra' services and others go for just the quick lap dance, pay the girl and get the fuck out. Now dont get me wrong, I like the 'give me my dance and let me leave' customer because i can make my quick money and move on to the next. But yea I also love the guys who are there to chill with the girls and have a good time. To each is own.
    What I think is actually kind of interesting is the apparently shared supposition that the proper way or the standard way to treat a stripper is badly. I mean why are we not assuming that being treated like a stripper is to be treated with courtesy and respect (within the confines of a professional relationship, of course). I mean I can easily and conveniently treat my waitress like a waitress AND a human being. Simultaneously. It is not a problem for me. I can expect her to do her job and also be courteous, nice and not grab food out of her hands before it is given to me, or sitting around drooling over other people's food. Moreover - I don't find this to be particularly onerous or a difficult duty. I look at it as normal social intercourse, and the fact that she is doing a job doesn't exempt her that normal social intercourse. I mean a whole whack of guys treat us like human beings all the time. It doesn't mean bringing us teddy bears and mailing us money. But it is hard to like customers or even the idea of customers if we're expected to believe that they are humans and we are subhumans and that is the desirable intercourse between us.

    Of course, you are much friendlier and less irritable than I am, overall, so you are also much friendlier and less irritable in the club.
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    Oh brother, you guy are just spewing rubbish out of your asses, especially X. I'm even inclined to agree with Phil here. Just remember boys, many of these girls are young and immature. Its what most customers demand. After all, that lack of inhibition and tightly contracted gluteal mass that remind you of your own lost youths and dull lives. With that comes the observation that some of these girls are only now figuring you out.

    "Oh my! He wants to do what with me where? G-ROOOOOS!!!!" So what, they're new strippers, they'll get jaded and used to it like the rest of us.

    Hence, the same youthful energy associated with stripping keeps women believing its a "girl power" thing. It really isn't, we're actually competitors. Its false wrapper strippers place themselves into to keep from tearing out each other 's throats. Or that's one way to look at it...


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    You know I like being told off by Katrine. Somehow she just makes it good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    I was going more for a "What are you talking about? I don't DO mileage. I am saving myself my marriage, preferably to a Christian rock star, would never defile myself by letting some CUSTOMER touch me."
    I don't think it worked.
    Jenny I was just engaging in some cheap, uncalled for flirtations. Notice my reference to RR and the winkie at the end of my post. Guess those didnt work either. I apologize for my unseemly behavior.

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    Dammit. I'm not getting ANYTHING right today.

    FBR flirted with me.
    Gosh.
    Shucks.
    I can't think of anything to do except push my hair behind my ears and blush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Dammit. I'm not getting ANYTHING right today.

    FBR flirted with me.
    Gosh.
    Shucks.
    I can't think of anything to do except push my hair behind my ears and blush.
    Since you asked...do you bat your eyes? I mean I know you bat your eyes..we all do..but do you bat your eyes that way? That always gets to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    Since you asked...do you bat your eyes? I mean I know you bat your eyes..we all do..but do you bat your eyes that way? That always gets to me.

    FBR
    No. But I do sort of tilt my head down and to the side and look up at you.

    I mean... I don't know, it's totally unconscious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    No. But I do sort of tilt my head down and to the side and look up at you.

    I mean... I don't know, it's totally unconscious.
    Damn Jenny I was hoping for eyebatting directed at me. There is such marvelous sincerity in that simple act. I admit Im jaded but most often when I see head lowering and tilting, its usually the dancer taking those brief seconds to scope out the guys coming in the front door. Or maybe check to out the nearby tables.

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    and it comes grinding to a halt. I can't possibly manage an eyebat. It's too girly. It would look weird. I'm very butch in real life. I have a kind of "touch bitch" thing happening. If I tried to bat my eyes I'd look like I was a clydesdale trying to be a my little pony.

    But, you know... it was fun while it lasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post

    But, you know... it was fun while it lasted.
    I'm crushed. The last time I had an ending like this, I felt so bad I got drunk, drove my $60,000 truck off the road, got arrested and am just now paying off the lawyer who got me out of it. Neither here nor there but it does bring back memories. So now I find myself lost in the same personal agony. And if I drive my truck off the road again, it will be all Jenny's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    That's what you don't get. There is nothing wrong with acting like a stripper in a strip club, nor is there anything wrong with customers enjoying strippers acting like strippers in a strip club. If you're arguing that customers should treat dancers like dates, gentlemen, boyfriends, goddess worshiping bitchboys, friends, or anything but a stripper, then you're being another one of the PLs that just doesn't get it.
    Nope, I'm saying you can still enjoy watching a dancer AND treat her with courtesy. I accept they're there to earn a living in an unconventional manner, but that doesn't mean politeness has to go out of the window. I have no problem enjoying the view on the occasions I have dances, but equally I behave toward them as I would like them behave toward me - i.e. with a degree of consideration.

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    I think the difference between you and I is that while I go to unwind after several months of hard work, you seem to go to try and build long term relationships with them. I don't want that. It's not the place for it. I'm just going for the purpose of having a good time, and then I'm done with it for a few more months. I don't want to be the dancers friends, I don't want to drive them home at night, or get to know them, or what's going on in their lives, it's just not the place to do that.
    I never went with the specific intention of befriending dancers - it just happened. Strange thing - we treated each other with reciprocal courtesy and found we liked each other. I enjoy their company, they enjoy mine and we put a smile on each other's faces. The fact they're dancers is not an important factor in our mutual liking. My world's a better place for their friendship, and I'd like to think the reverse is true also.

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    I've actually made a lot of friends in the club.. and im not talking dancers. I've become friends with a lot of customers. When a customer treats me like a humane being rather then a stripper I tend to treat them a lot better then I would treat a 'customer'.
    My point exactly - if both sides can treat each other with a degree of consideration, then it's more relaxing/fun for both sides. A dancer like Cally is there to earn money, and if she can do in in way that puts a smile on her face as well as lets her meet her financial goals then good luck to her.

    Bet the guys that treat her well walk out of the club with a better feeling than the ones that treat her like a 'mere stripper'. They've spent their money and had an enjoyable time, not just felt they're $20 to Cally.

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    What I think is actually kind of interesting is the apparently shared supposition that the proper way or the standard way to treat a stripper is badly. I mean why are we not assuming that being treated like a stripper is to be treated with courtesy and respect (within the confines of a professional relationship, of course).
    As Jenny says it's a professional relationship, and it would be foolish to lose sight of that. She's there to earn and anyone who has a dance from her is there to indulge their curiosity about what's under the dress. But she's also a person, and the fact she takes her clothes off to earn a living does not disqualify her from the expectation of being treated with basic politeness.

    Even if I look at it from a self-interested purely customer POV, it's still in my interests to treat Jenny well, because if I do so, she's more likely to give me a better dance than if I treat her badly.

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    Just remember boys, many of these girls are young and immature. Its what most customers demand. After all, that lack of inhibition and tightly contracted gluteal mass that remind you of your own lost youths and dull lives. With that comes the observation that some of these girls are only now figuring you out.
    It's a steep learning curve for a new dancer, and I think a lot depends on the age they start. A dancer starting at 24/25 is generally more mature and mentallly tougher than one starting at 18, and probably better able to cope with the stresses of the job.

    I think it also depends on whether they're lucky enough to find a more experienced dancer to 'mentor' them - after all, experience is better taught than learned the hard way.

    That said, I do feel traces of concern when I see a young and inexperienced dancer being soured by the environment. Bad cases of being embittered and permanently put off men/relationships do happen, but I believe they're fortunately fairly rare.

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    I sort of believe it. But him hitting a pole sounds so final. I mean all I did was drift off the edge of the road, drive down a steep embankment, knock down a few saplings and come to a grinding halt in a creek. But if the other dude tee boned a pole...ugh. Hope he's OK now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W

    I think it also depends on whether they're lucky enough to find a more experienced dancer to 'mentor' them - after all, experience is better taught than learned the hard way.

    Phil.
    Huh, what's that? Its pretty rare to find a "mentor" in the clubs. Keep in mind we are competitors. The older women who are still in the game seldomly want to encourage more pert young whippersnappers to take their money.

    So Phil, do the girls you drive around at least give you petrol money or buy you breakfast for your troubles? I mean, have you ever tabulated the amount of money you spend driving them around the city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Huh, what's that? Its pretty rare to find a "mentor" in the clubs. Keep in mind we are competitors. The older women who are still in the game seldomly want to encourage more pert young whippersnappers to take their money.
    I didn't say older, I said more experienced. It might be a case of a dancer who's been working for 12 months taking someone under her wing and 'saying watch that venue, the owner's a sleazeball', or "most customers tell you that - it's generally BS".

    Yes, you are competing with other dancers, but that doesn't mean it's got to be a cut-throat business. Most dancers I know do extend some courtesies to each other, particularly when it doesn't affect their earnings.

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    So Phil, do the girls you drive around at least give you petrol money or buy you breakfast for your troubles? I mean, have you ever tabulated the amount of money you spend driving them around the city?
    You're looking at it the wrong way Katrine - as if it's a dancer/customer relationship or we're trying to make money out of each other. To answer your specific questions; no I won't accept petrol money from them because they're friends and I help them purely for that reason. Yes, they will buy me breakfast/supper from time to time. I'll accept the meal because it's their way of saying thanks for helping me out. (The mirror image of me not wanting money for petrol).

    More generally, they could make more money out of me by keeping within the dancer/customer framework and asking for private dances that they ever save from getting lifts. If I do meet them at a venue, generally towards the end of their shifts, then I neither tip nor watch them (any more than they want to collect from me, or have me pay attention). Looked at in purely financial terms, they're probably out of pocket from knowing me.

    I'm fully aware that the situation these dancers and I have drifted into is an unusual one, but the focus is genuinely one of friendship and the interest in each other is outside of work. I'll give them lifts because it's convenient for them but they/I tend to prefer meeting socially rather than at work (and yes, we split costs when having a drink together etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    What I think is actually kind of interesting is the apparently shared supposition that the proper way or the standard way to treat a stripper is badly. I mean why are we not assuming that being treated like a stripper is to be treated with courtesy and respect (within the confines of a professional relationship, of course). I mean I can easily and conveniently treat my waitress like a waitress AND a human being. Simultaneously.
    Exactly, they are not mutually exclusive.

    If you're handing a girl money in a club to take off her clothes, grind on your lap, touch you or vice versa, etc., you're treating them like a stripper (or if anyone prefers the euphemism, and exotic dancer ). None of which means you have to violate their limits, or be rude, or anything else, but every customer here (perhaps with the exception of Phil?) treats strippers like strippers in strip clubs (by the act of paying $$ for it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    Nope, I'm saying you can still enjoy watching a dancer AND treat her with courtesy. I accept they're there to earn a living in an unconventional manner, but that doesn't mean politeness has to go out of the window. I have no problem enjoying the view on the occasions I have dances, but equally I behave toward them as I would like them behave toward me - i.e. with a degree of consideration.
    I never said anything about courtesy or lack of. Look up the definition of stripper. There is nothing in there about courtesy. Treating a girl like a stripper means giving her money to take off her clothes, or to dance erotically while you watch (or touch in the case of lap dances). You can do that with (or without) trying to be their friend, with (or without) trying to impress them, with (or without) trying to be a gentleman.

    In fact, I was just out at a bar last night where I spent the night getting drunk and met several women, and had to pass on an offer to go home with an attractive brunette (I'm sure my SO wouldn't have approved ) Now in that setting I was the complete gentleman. I also didn't offer any of the women money to take off their clothes, or grind on my lap. And likewise, none of them came up to me and offered to take off their clothes for money, or offered to grind on my lap for $$s. See that's the place to do that - there is no exchange of money though, and not a single woman was treated like a stripper.

    Now I'm not saying I've never hung out in a strip club and treated it like a bar; I have, and I've spent some nights doing nothing but hanging out getting drunk with strippers. But I am saying that the girls are fundamentally there to work in a SC, while they are fundamentally there to relax and have a good time in bar. Customers though often lose sight of that or never really understand it to begin with - they go in treating it like a bar scene and behave as they would in a bar in hopes of picking up on a woman (or becoming her friend, so he can see her OTC).

    And I think a lot of new dancers lose sight of the difference too. Oh not completely, but they are fuzzy on the boundaries themselves (and there really is no absolute rule book anyway) They forget it's a job, and become offended when a customer turns them down, or doesn't buy them a drink, or becomes so involved in the stripping his "gentlemen" behaviors give way to become a little rowdy or pirate like. But then it's not a pickup bar or mall or restaurant, it's a strip club where the product that's on sale is nudity and touching. It's abnormal environment, so it's to be expected that customers aren't going to follow all the same social conventions as they do OTC (just like the stripping is not a standard social convention OTC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cally
    When a customer treats me like a humane being rather then a stripper I tend to treat them a lot better then I would treat a 'customer'.
    until he starts staring at you adoringly and arranging your hair as if your head is sitting on his mantle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Just remember boys, many of these girls are young and immature.
    flaky? hey, that's my line.
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    Its what most customers demand. After all, that lack of inhibition and tightly contracted gluteal mass that remind you of your own lost youths and dull lives.
    true, but youth isn't everything. in fact, it's a one-trick pony. a young girl's strength isn't in her experience, dances and personality. her strength mostly lies in looking young-n-fresh. also, keeping her trap shut and being accommodating goes a long way as well. the enamored, middle-aged perverts will usually fill in the gaps (ie:"she seems mature and intelligent for her age"...LOL).
    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    "Oh my! He wants to do what with me where? G-ROOOOOS!!!!" So what, they're new strippers, they'll get jaded and used to it like the rest of us.
    hopefully, long before they stop looking young-n-fresh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Hence, the same youthful energy associated with stripping keeps women believing its a "girl power" thing. It really isn't, we're actually competitors. Its false wrapper strippers place themselves into to keep from tearing out each other 's throats.
    too bad the "girl power" thing doesn't work on eyeballs.
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    After all, that lack of inhibition and tightly contracted gluteal mass that remind you of your own lost youths and dull lives.
    Sounds like someone's projecting here.
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