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    PhillyDancer1982
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    Earlier this week, I went on an interview for a data entry job. It was a temp job offered through one of my temp agencies(American Staffing), but because it was temp-to-perm with the company, the company wanted me to interview with them before allowing the temp agency to give me the job. It was with a company that performs preemployment background/public record searches for employers. The interview went great, they offered me a job, but told me that they'd first have to conduct a criminal background check and drug test before definitely hiring me. I was a little worried because although I have no criminal convictions, I was arrested almost two years ago and I'm currently on ARD/probation(which means that my record gets expunged at the end of successfully completing the probation program). Sure enough, an hour later I get a call from the American Staffing temp agency saying that I wouldn't have to go to the drug test because the company "cancelled" the job. I'm assuming that they cancelled it because they found the arrest/probation on my record...do you think I'm right?

    Well that kinda sucks. The probation will probably be yet another hindrance to my jobsearch, but then again I've gotten data entry jobs before despite the arrest, so I'll probably find another job if I keep looking. Today, I got a call from another temp agency(TRC Staffing) for a temp-to-perm position...from the same company!!! I told them excuses as to why I wouldn't be interested in interviewing with the company and pursuing it. I didn't want to embarrass myself by showing up at the company again after they most likely "blacklisted" me from employment. Then a few hours later, TRC Staffing calls again with another job offer...AGAIN, from the same exact background search company! What are the odds of that?

    Now I feel kinda stupid. I don't know what excuses to make, if I get more and more offers from temp agencies for the same company that turned me down. I don't want to tell any of the temp agencies to not include offers from that company, because I do not want them to be aware of my probation/arrest...this might cause them to exclude me from other job opportunities. My friend says that I should call up the company and ask them for the specific reason as to why the prior job offer got "cancelled." It is probably due to my current probation, right? What should I do? Also, my ex-boyfriend's brother says that once a year passes from the time of arrest, that I can get my record expunged for $800 as long as I'm on the ARD program for it...is such a thing true? It might be worth the $800 to do this if it is true...Any feedback?

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    Oh and you're all probably wondering what the arrest was for...here's the irony...it was because of fighting/threatening an ex-boyfriend of mine. I dated this guy in college, and after we broke up, we would constantly argue with each other and rip each other apart. It was very immature and unnecessary, and persisted for a full year afterwards. The guy would constantly belittle me for "not having held a meaningful job in my life," for being poor, falsely accused me of being "white-trash" simply because I didn't have money or a respectable job(sorry, being a retail cashier after college is NOT viewed by most as respectable), and for "not making anything of myself." At that time(pre-dancing), I WAS dirt-poor, had no family/friends for support, was unsuccessfully struggling to find a job better than a min wage McJob, and had no stability in my life at all...so his words rung true and really really hurt. I should have been strong enough to ignore him or limit my contact with such an asshole, but because I was in an unstable lifestyle and insecure, I was stupid and would get in fights with him in public places over stuff like this. A few of my guy friends made some threats to him over the phone, which didn't exactly help my situation when I got arrested. Because I didn't have any real prior convictions on my record, and I was able to get a good lawyer(I started dancing by this point), I was given ARD...which means that I am expected to stay out of trouble and then I don't get any kinda record. But I don't know how that affects my record right now. I asked my lawyer and he said he didn't know.

    I *know* that it was ultimately my fault for continuing the fights, but it is still very annoying that the whole reason I have this possible criminal record "hindrance," is because I couldn't find a stable job. It seems like a Catch 22: I can't find a good job despite my good grades and clean record; people harass and belittle me for this, essentially adding insult to injury; as a result I feel even more shitty about myself; I become insecure to the point that I do things out-of-the-ordinary for me, such as assaulting someone; I get a (temporary) bad record that hinders me from getting good jobs. It just isn't fair. Well, on the bright side, I'm doing MUCH better in life(my own place, heat, a car that runs, adequate food on the table, health insurance, etc) by dancing and having this probation on my record, than when I was working for $5.15/hr pre-dancing and pre-probation...so at least I have a means of making enough money to live off of.

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    Why would a data entry job need to do a background search? I have never heard of such a thing for an office job.
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    Tell the temp agency that you have issues about how that particular company runs it's business, and to not send you any other jobs that involve that company.

    It is a good market to be job hunting in right now, so employees can call the shots to some extent.

    I remember job hunting back in 2001, and I would ask for an application that asked me more about my personal life than I was comfortable answering (I mean, why would an employer need to know my bank account numbers and my debts owed??). I just handed the application back to the person and said "oh, never mind."

    Now employers are searching myspace profiles and facebook and who knows what else. Before you know it, everyone but the most timid and meek people will be working for corporations. That can't be good for business in the long run.


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    It really depends on the type of data entry. If the data entry position involved sensitive information say social security numbers, records, addresses, etc a company will be careful who they hire. Many companies have been sued repeatedly because of employees commiting fraud.

    Philly even if it is the same company calling for you thru the temp agency go to the interview anyway. Many times if you are not qualified for one position, but they like you, they may offer you a differant position. I have had this happen to me. If you go and the same thing happens again tell the temp agency they are continually interviewing you for the same position and you would prefer some other options.

    Because there is so much fraud going on companies are becoming more and more careful who they hire. They google your name, background checks, credit checks, drug testing, and who knows what else.

    Hang in there Philly. I know this job search has been frustrating for you. You have done the work, doing everything you need to, and it will pay off soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl
    Why would a data entry job need to do a background search? I have never heard of such a thing for an office job.
    It's as Vamp said, because the company handles confidential data. The company's purpose is to run background/credit checks on potential job candidates for all kinds of employers. So why would a company like that want to hire someone who has a criminal record?...It would be kinda hypocritical for a background search company to hire someone who wouldn't even pass their own background search.

    But back to some of my original questions...is there a chance that maybe my record *won't* get expunged at the end of good behavior during ARD? Or, is it true what E- G--- said, that I can get my record expunged now for $800?

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    Who will you be paying the $800 too? If it isn't the state or some goverment office that I doubt it would work. Talk to a lawyer that knows. You need to find out how this is effecting your record. How long will it be on there?

    Are you still looking thru the paper for a job too?

    Just to let ya know you can always pm me Philly with questions.
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    Blah this seems so frustrating...Good Luck,,,and i bet you are still better off now(with ur dancing income) then that creep ex of yours is right now!

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    ^ ^ ^ Nah. My ex comes from a well-to-do family, so his car insurance and college tuition was always paid to a T by his parents...as a result, he didn't have to take a year off from college due to money issues, as I did, so he actually graduated EARLIER than me even though I'd been a year ahead of him. His dad also helped a lot with networking and getting him internships/summer jobs at big corporate companies like Vanguard and Glaxo Smith Kline. Those, along with internships he was able to snag in college due to his charisma and oily slick (fake) personality, has helped him to get really great job offers. That's the whole reason he made fun of me for working in retail post-college(during my pre-dancing days)...because it was something that was a weakness of mine, but a strength of his.

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    Not all companies care if you have an arrest. I used to work for a big dialysis company and they did a background search and said all they cared about was if you'd been arrested for something to do with medicaid fraud or something like that. Also smaller companies may not even care at all. Maybe just be honest with them and explain it.

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    Most employers conduct a background check, however, you need to be upfront and HONEST and disclose first. many people have records, but you have to be up front and explain your situation so that the recruiters can help.

    I'm in the process of getting a secret clearance from the government.... I just filled out about 27 pages worth of crap that pertains all to pre-1995- because they go back for the one I need 15 years... I wasn't arrested, but I had a chapter 7 bankruptcy... I was just up front about it... and honest...

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    Companies dealing with medical records information also have to use heightened screening processes to show they are complying with the confidentiality standards in the HIPA.

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