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    Hi everyone

    First off, just wanted apologize for the length of the post.

    I've been a regular at a nude club for less than a year now. I've always had a great time and most of all, enjoy the company of the women that work there. Well, I've recently had to make changes to avoid this club now

    There is a dancer at this club, Tina, that I met in november of last year. She was very nice and easy going. I would get dances from her often whenever I would see her at the club. After about two months, we exchanged phone numbers. We would talk on the phone maybe a couple times a month. We did go out once, for dinner and to go see "Phantom of the Opera" Nothing else happened, except for a kiss on the cheek. Overall, it was a fun time. Since we went out, I've been to the club 3 or 4 times in the last 5 months. Each time I would visit, I would get most of my dances with her.

    Anyway, I had gone there recently, and of course she was there. Well, she was dancing on stage and I sat down at one of the tables. Then, a blonde dancer came by and sat in my lap and started talking to me. After a few minutes of talking with her, both her and I felt trickles of water on us. It felt like someone had flicked a water bottle toward us, where the water on the outside of the bottle hit us. It wasn't much, but it did get our attention. Well guess who was standing not too far away with a water bottle in their hand....yep, it was Tina!! lol Anyway, the dancer I was sitting with was pissed!!! She then said, "OMG!! Are you two dating? Are you her boyfriend?" I told her no, I wasn't, and that we both had gone out a few months ago, but I didn't consider her my girlfriend. She did calm down and we talked for a minute longer and then she left.

    After this other girl left, I did talk to Tina about it. She said she did not do anything. I really didn't believe her because it seemed like she was upset...Anyway, I wasn't mad at her after we talked, but I was still suprised with what she had most likely done.

    Then, a few weeks later, I went to this club again. Of course she was there and we talked for a little bit. Then she was called to do her sets and make her rounds on the stages. The place was busy too, so I knew it would be awhile before she would finish up. Anyway, after about 20 minutes, I saw another girl that I knew and I got a couple of dances from her. Apparently, Tina saw this, and she said that she wasn't mad that I was getting dances from another girl, but that it "made her stomach feel funny". Huh??? Then I start to think...does this mean she's jealous? If so, I was surprised she said this....again, her and I have never been serious...heck, we only have gone out once lol I looked at it more as a casual friendship.

    Well, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but it felt kind of awkward. That's when I decided to start going to another club. I'll miss the regular club, but maybe this is a sign to go out and try other places lol

    This brought about the questions I had:
    1) Have any of you ladies ever been jealous of other dancers being with a certain customer? Or have you ever had other dancers be jealous at you for dancing with their favorite customer?

    2) Have customers ever been jealous of you dancing with other customers?

    Thanks!

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    Some less intelligent or savvy girls will get jealous and territorial when a customer exercises his right to choose with whom he spends his time and money. Sometimes those girls act immaturely. Considering the average age of most strippers, is this really that much of a surprise?

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    i haven't started dancing yet, but i can tell you how she may feel. being a regular she may be attached to you romantically. you only went out once, so of course not wanting to look like a chick who "goes all the way" with a guy she just met, she only kisses you on the cheek. she might have hoped you two were serious ( or were going to be), but since you didn't acknowledge she was "your girlfriend"she wasn't going to assume you were her man. then you also claimed you weren't her man or dating to the other dancer. did you ever consider that she thought you two were dating and that you were, in her eyes, boy friend material. she might be getting the feeling that your head might be turned by another pretty girl, and not only is she out of a regular, she might be out of a guy. it might just be that sort of insecurity. you leaving the club is probaby got her really down or upset. i wouldn't stop going, but ask her what you mean to her or what she was hoping you would be (boyfriend or friend?) then you can decide where you want to go with it from there.

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    Do you want me to let you in on the tiniest of little secrets? We know EXACTLY what we are doing, or at least I do.

    I provide GFE, strictly in the club, to my regs, and that's why I have so many of them. When their interest starts to wane (because they realize they won't be getting any OTC any time soon) then I pull a stunt like that - though never quite as tacky.

    I'll send another dancer over to get a dance from him, one I know he likes the look of. I go over later, and one way or another subtly hint that it made me jealous. Or I drop lines about how he's so sweet and all, and how he deserves someone really great, and who he could be proud to take home to mom. Not saying that I want to be that girl, but kind of - hinting that I might be if I thought I was "worthy" of him. Usually lets me milk him at least another one-two months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry_sin
    Do you want me to let you in on the tiniest of little secrets? We know EXACTLY what we are doing, or at least I do.

    I provide GFE, strictly in the club, to my regs, and that's why I have so many of them. When their interest starts to wane (because they realize they won't be getting any OTC any time soon) then I pull a stunt like that - though never quite as tacky.

    I'll send another dancer over to get a dance from him, one I know he likes the look of. I go over later, and one way or another subtly hint that it made me jealous. Or I drop lines about how he's so sweet and all, and how he deserves someone really great, and who he could be proud to take home to mom. Not saying that I want to be that girl, but kind of - hinting that I might be if I thought I was "worthy" of him. Usually lets me milk him at least another one-two months.
    Yes the dancer the OP is refering to may be playing a similar kind of scam as you do on your victims. So clearly he made the right choice by going to another club. Otherwise he runs the risk of being 'milked' some more

    Or maybe she's not a ROB but just a nice girl who attracted to him as more than a customer and he doesn't feel the same way in return. Either way he is better off in a new club.

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    Meh... I don't feel like it's really a scam. I think I am an actress, and I am providing them with a fantasy. If I can do it in a way to make me more money, then that's just the game.

    *later edit* Btw, what's an ROB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry_sin
    *later edit* Btw, what's an ROB?
    That's got to be sarcasm Cherry. I'd figured you have all the acronyms down by now.


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    I don't rip anyone off - to rip them off you have to say what they will get and not deliver.

    But bitch? Of course! How else could I keep the other girl's hands out of my ATM's wallet?

    LOL. Thanks doc. You've enlightened, as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    Some less intelligent or savvy girls will get jealous and territorial when a customer exercises his right to choose with whom he spends his time and money. Sometimes those girls act immaturely. Considering the average age of most strippers, is this really that much of a surprise?

    Yup.

    Take that and switch out "girls" for "guys" in both situations and you pretty much have the perfect answer.
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    It happens all the time - as a regular customer you have to keep the 'regular' dancer on edge and pass on letting them dial into your ATM from time to time.

    It sounds like you got a dose of some real SS drama. Man, she's working the hustle pretty hard.

    I've only met two dancers who were able to maintain a purely professional friendship without bringing in any drama in an attempt to 'mark' their territory.


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    Some less intelligent or savvy girls will get jealous and territorial when a customer exercises his right to choose with whom he spends his time and money. Sometimes those girls act immaturely. Considering the average age of most strippers, is this really that much of a surprise?
    Well said.

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    My last two visits I've been ignoring my ATF, in favor of this really energetic girl who just got back from maternity leave. She seems a tiny bit hurt over it, but if you ever got a dance from this girl, you'd know why I'm acting like a total N00b with her. Whew!
    OT, she wants to take me to another club, where she used to work, on her day off. I think she'd be an awesome drinking buddy. Yeah, I know, it's going to end badly.

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    i've had a few of them get jealous when i get dances from other girls. my current money pit get very jealous if i even talk to some of the girls she dosen't like & gets downright pissed if i get a dance from them. if she's not working her spies tell her everything i did while i was at the club so i can't even sneak in a few dances if she's not there without her knowing about it

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    ^^^ sounds like fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherry_sin
    Do you want me to let you in on the tiniest of little secrets? We know EXACTLY what we are doing, or at least I do.

    I provide GFE, strictly in the club, to my regs, and that's why I have so many of them. When their interest starts to wane (because they realize they won't be getting any OTC any time soon) then I pull a stunt like that - though never quite as tacky.

    I'll send another dancer over to get a dance from him, one I know he likes the look of. I go over later, and one way or another subtly hint that it made me jealous. Or I drop lines about how he's so sweet and all, and how he deserves someone really great, and who he could be proud to take home to mom. Not saying that I want to be that girl, but kind of - hinting that I might be if I thought I was "worthy" of him. Usually lets me milk him at least another one-two months.

    Thanks for clueing me in on how useless it would be to lavish money on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    Yes the dancer the OP is refering to may be playing a similar kind of scam as you do on your victims. So clearly he made the right choice by going to another club. Otherwise he runs the risk of being 'milked' some more
    Oh, quit! As if other businesses don't pull similar tactics to try and maintain customer loyality. I see it as creative marketing and PR to build customer loyality. If he really didn't want to spend money on the dancer, no one is holding a gun to his head and making him do so.

    Ever tried to get warrenty work done on an item you purchased? It's kind of funny how if you take your item to a competitor of the original retailer, the business you purchased from has a bad habit of voiding your warrenty. This sounds like the same kind of marketing tactict, to me.


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    It's spelled WARRANTY, Ms. Genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    It happens all the time - as a regular customer you have to keep the 'regular' dancer on edge and pass on letting them dial into your ATM from time to time.

    It sounds like you got a dose of some real SS drama. Man, she's working the hustle pretty hard.

    I've only met two dancers who were able to maintain a purely professional friendship without bringing in any drama in an attempt to 'mark' their territory.
    I think there shouldn't necessarily be game playing from either end. What is this about keeping us on edge? Do you guys get some sort of sick enjoyment out of depriving us of our rent money? Remember, we are here to entertain you. If you start giving out the notion that you're difficult to deal with, word spreads pretty fast. The quality dancers will avoid you as they know their time is precious and they don't want a hassle.

    And while she may or may not be honestly jealous from a real life non-stripper persona standpoint, I think TALKING TO HER is the best option. Otherwise you will never know and you'll either think she's trying to play you or she really does care.
    Use your judgement wisely and go with your gut instinct regardless of any emotion that might be blocking you from the truth.

    I am one of those dancers that don't like to perpetuate drama. If a regular decides to spend his money elsewhere, so be it. It's out of my control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    I think there shouldn't necessarily be game playing from either end. What is this about keeping us on edge? Do you guys get some sort of sick enjoyment out of depriving us of our rent money?
    It's not your rent money until we decide to buy from you. Why do so many women feel entitled to control men's wallets? By keeping the dancers on edge, I'm not suggesting playing games, but letting them know that despite how many times I've bought dances from them, I am NOT a sure thing/ATM. Just as I know she doesn't have to keep up the level of service/mutual objectfication if she gets bored.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    Remember, we are here to entertain you. If you start giving out the notion that you're difficult to deal with, word spreads pretty fast. The quality dancers will avoid you as they know their time is precious and they don't want a hassle.
    I agree with you wholeheartedly - any regular dancer of mine will attest that I expect them to work the room before spending any convo time with me and that I respect their time the most. I notice newer/less professional dancers get confused with my always pushing them to work the room. If they know I'll get a dance, I still stage tip them to "throw down the gauntlet" and let the other customers know she's worth it.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    And while she may or may not be honestly jealous from a real life non-stripper persona standpoint, I think TALKING TO HER is the best option. Otherwise you will never know and you'll either think she's trying to play you or she really does care.
    I get the impression from the OP that he's not interested in her. If she really does care that much to behave this way, she needs to rethink her profession.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    I am one of those dancers that don't like to perpetuate drama. If a regular decides to spend his money elsewhere, so be it. It's out of my control.
    Now that's more of what I would have expected from AH.


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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    It's not your rent money until we decide to buy from you. Why do so many women feel entitled to control men's wallets? By keeping the dancers on edge, I'm not suggesting playing games, but letting them know that despite how many times I've bought dances from them, I am NOT a sure thing/ATM. Just as I know she doesn't have to keep up the level of service/mutual objectfication if she gets bored.
    I never EXPECT someone is going to purchase dances/time from me, but when someone makes a habit of doing so on a regular basis and then doesn't spend money but expects that I will still spend time with them, it hurts my money and I resent it. Some guys do this ON PURPOSE because they assume they can receive 5 star treatment from me for free or less money than they did in the past. And I thought that's what you meant.

    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    I agree with you wholeheartedly - any regular dancer of mine will attest that I expect them to work the room before spending any convo time with me and that I respect their time the most. I notice newer/less professional dancers get confused with my always pushing them to work the room. If they know I'll get a dance, I still stage tip them to "throw down the gauntlet" and let the other customers know she's worth it.
    This is interesting. If I know a customer is in there to see me specifically, I will make a point of seeing him before anyone else. It's just smart sales and also common courtesy. I can completely understand why they would get confused. I probably would too, although I am not new or "less professional" than most. All stage tipping aside, why do you do this exactly?

    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    If she really does care that much to behave this way, she needs to rethink her profession.
    Absolutely.

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    Now that's more of what I would have expected from AH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsthatguy
    I think she'd be an awesome drinking buddy. Yeah, I know, it's going to end badly.
    Probably....but it will be a fun ride while it lasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    This is interesting. If I know a customer is in there to see me specifically, I will make a point of seeing him before anyone else. It's just smart sales and also common courtesy. I can completely understand why they would get confused. I probably would too, although I am not new or "less professional" than most. All stage tipping aside, why do you do this exactly?
    Why?

    With the newbies, it's to remind them that they're there TO MAKE MONEY. And that I respect this fact. With all the others, it's to keep the ITC purely professional. Nothing ruins thing more than a customer or dancer who gets confused about a 'real' relationship and then starts thinking about OTC, then rethinks it, then thinks it again. We've all seen this, the most pathetic of problems.

    I understand your post about regular customers 'stealing time'. Thanks in most part to SW, I never, never do this. If she really wants to spend time with me without my getting dances then I am no longer a customer and we can only meet OTC strictly as friends, nothing else.

    I respect your approach with the sole regular guys - I have a few gals who consider me one of these and always stop by to 'say hi' as soon as I get there - and they know to let me have a drink and relax for a while before coming back. It's a weird thing but I like being a regular but one that the rest of the customers don't know is a regular or she thinks 'is special'. All that does is make me feel like an ATM and being a customer I know it puts off some of the newbie customers who don't understand why this guy who just walked in got her attention.

    Thanks for pleasing!


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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    Nothing ruins thing more than a customer or dancer who gets confused about a 'real' relationship and then starts thinking about OTC, then rethinks it, then thinks it again. We've all seen this, the most pathetic of problems.
    It's refreshing to see a customer who knows his role and respects our role as well. Men like you are fairly uncommon, at least ones that I have encountered. Maybe things are different in Arizona? LOL
    But the point is that so many seem to think that just because we spend time, become intimate ITC, and seem interested in them as people, that we have to go the extra mile and date them as well. I think that is the whole point of the thread. Perhaps the reason why dancers treat you with such respect and care is because they know you are not there to play games or exchange more than $$ for time/dances/fantasy.

    I wish more customers would realize this...and girls too. I can't say I haven't been guilty of communing with some customers outside of the club, but that was more when I was a newbie. The thought of having outside contact with some customers still crosses my mind, and I'm usually pretty closed to the idea. It's all a matter of judgement and personal preference, but I'd prefer that more customers thought the way you do.

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    Yeah I don't think she's immature, I think she's smart. Think about it, to these guys we create the illusion that we are their companion and if you throw in a bit of drama which you'd get in a real relationship, it kind of makes it seem more real.

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    ^^^ what I like to call 'the wrong girlfriend experience'... more real, as in, really not very fun

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