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    Does anybody else do it? I just went into business for myself... meaning, I fell of the 9-5 wagon (again) and bought a bunch of cleaning supplies and posted an ad on Craigslist. So far it's treating me reasonably well... I've had about 6 appointments in the last week and everyone is well-behaved and very generous. I've made more in the past week than I could have at a club, since it's slow season and I haven't danced at any of the local clubs, which means no regulars. 2 of my cleaning clients didn't even want me to clean, they just wanted the company. While the security present in clubs is of course absent in individuals' homes, I enjoy the fact that I don't have to go through as much trouble to get ready for "work" as I did when I was dancing, so it feels much more relaxed and casual. Those big yellow rubber gloves let me get away with not having a manicure... I hate having long fingernails, so that's probably my favorite part

    I had a few questions for anyone who does this, or could offer me any advice whether proven or theoretical.

    -While I received over 100 responses to my ad, very few guys followed through. I am asking $100/hr for nude cleaning in heels with a few lapdances ("contact" cleaning). I do not offer extras, which I make very clear in my ad, but I permit the guys to jerk off while watching me clean if they want to (I've worked as a lingerie model, so I'm a seasoned and indifferent jerkoff veteran). Now, my price sounds fair to me, but what do you think? Am I charging too much? I'm located in Florida, if this helps.

    -What is the best way to get clients to follow the fuck through on appointments? I've had 2 "confirmed" clients who have canceled by way of flaking... not picking up their phones when I call to confirm right as I'm leaving, etc. I was thinking I should set up a PayPal account and take deposits, but I know nothing about the intricacies of such a thing (how to do it, how to deal with "on the books" money when tax time rolls around, etc.) I'm also concerned that doing so might scare away more clients than it attracts.

    -Does anyone have any ideas for a low-budget advertising schtick other than Craigslist? The local weekly paper charges quite a bit to run an ad. Would you, however, say that it's worth it? Does anyone have any experience running a print ad for self-promotion?

    -I also don't have a webpage, but would be open to getting one if I could afford it. I realize that this will be my greatest expense but potentially my most effective advertising tool. How great a priority would you say this is?

    Thank you, smart ladies of the forum. I eagerly await your input.

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    This sounds like a nice nitch business that could have good earnings with some independence. What license issues did you run into?
    Do you normally work alone? Is it mostly during thw day?
    Any tips?

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    Um... shouldn't you have done your homework and research BEFORE you even posted your first "ad" and started accepting any clients at all?!? Do you have any experience with being self-employed and/or running a small business (even if you are self-employed aka "owner-operated" it is still a small business) ?? If you have no experience or knowledge, start acquiring some now! Put your "business" on hold temporarily whilst you sort all of this out so you can actually really make something of it.

    Being a seasoned jerk off veteran does work to your advantage.

    Okay, here is my take.

    Stop what you are doing now. Get your homework and research done now then re-start. Do a small business course even if it is online or via correspondence. Read books on starting a small business. Even research your "territory" that you plan to cover to see if anything is currently available. Purchase (it's a legitmate business expense hence tax deductibe in Australia at least) accountancy software. Have an accountant who has dealt with cash businesses "on hand" so you have that side of the business taken care of at least.

    Get a webpage. You can get a url via the WebAlias network (http://goldcoastgirl.andmuchmore.com/ will take you there)... it is free. There are PLENTY of places that will give you a free website...

    Low-budget advertising... craiglist is a start yet not the best way to get out there. You best fork up the dollars for an advertisement at least once a month in the local paper.... also research the local paper... what "audience" does it seem to attract? Will the ad been seen by everyone in that area? Is it a free newspaper or one that people have to purchase ? You'll receive better results from the free newspaper. Try to get your advertisement on a wednesday, fri and/or sat.

    Always ask for a deposit up-front... offer AlertPay, StormPay, PayPal. Be very careful with PayPal as they generally do not support "adult" businesses whereas the other two will be okay. This will not only show you that the person will most likely follow thru on the booking... it will also mean you won't waste time (which is money) on a flakey booking. If they do flake out, then you keep the deposit. Make sure they are well aware of the fact that the deposit is non-refundable.

    As for your offer, offer the nude cleaning for $100 per hour ... no contact with the customer. Do not offer contact as this then starts to delve into escorting a little... which as far as I am aware is not legal in the US like it is here in Australia. It is just that.. well... unless you are actually comfortable with hand relief (even wearing the gloves)... offering contact lap dances as well as allowing them to jerk off whilst you clean... you may have guys who will push for MORE whilst you are there.

    You could use this as a marketing ploy and a way to have security with you. When you have their booking confirmed, call them up and ask if they want a video or photographic momento of you cleaning their house ? IF they decline, ask them if they will allow the videographer/photographer to film you whilst you do the booking for marketing purposes. You can charge for this momento or include it as a gift. Make sure that you and only you is in the footage..... and the client knows that you and only you will be in the footage.

    Basically.. you need to stop and do your homework first. Then go ahead. This could turn out to be lucrative if you have done your homework....


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    A City Paper ad is probably worth it. A website costs next to nothing (you can probably set one up for like $30). But you need to consider the legality of what your doing and what LE attention your advertising might attract. If your using a business name you need to file a fictitious name with the state. You might need a business liscence. You should definitely consult with a lawyer and an accountant before you do anything else.

    CL guys are unreliable. Most girls who post on CL are also unreliable. When you "seem" more reliable (by having a professional looking website, etc.) guys will feel more obligated to behave reliably.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TeethOfTheHydra
    -While I received over 100 responses to my ad, very few guys followed through. I am asking $100/hr for nude cleaning in heels with a few lapdances ("contact" cleaning). I do not offer extras, which I make very clear in my ad, but I permit the guys to jerk off while watching me clean if they want to (I've worked as a lingerie model, so I'm a seasoned and indifferent jerkoff veteran). Now, my price sounds fair to me, but what do you think? Am I charging too much? I'm located in Florida, if this helps.
    If you get enough requests per week that you're happy with the money you're making then it's enough. If you're getting too many requests to handle then you should charge more. If you're not getting the volume of business you want you should re-examine your marketing strategy and after you've waited a month to test the response lower your rates if you're still not satisfied.

    -What is the best way to get clients to follow the fuck through on appointments? I've had 2 "confirmed" clients who have canceled by way of flaking... not picking up their phones when I call to confirm right as I'm leaving, etc. I was thinking I should set up a PayPal account and take deposits, but I know nothing about the intricacies of such a thing (how to do it, how to deal with "on the books" money when tax time rolls around, etc.) I'm also concerned that doing so might scare away more clients than it attracts.
    Tell the clients on the phone clearly that you will be calling to confirm the morning of the appointment. If you don't hear back from them then you're not confirmed and you shouldn't show up.

    -Does anyone have any ideas for a low-budget advertising schtick other than Craigslist? The local weekly paper charges quite a bit to run an ad. Would you, however, say that it's worth it? Does anyone have any experience running a print ad for self-promotion?
    One of your local alternative free weeklies would be a start:

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    Contineu with craigslist.co
    m and consider backpage.com. What you write matters (care to show us what you have?)

    You might also consider the Alternative/Fetish/Fantasy sections of erosguide.com and/or cityvibe.com. Both cost money. Both garner business (Eros is better). But as these sites primarily cater to men looking for escorts you need to be quite clear about what you offer.

    -I also don't have a webpage, but would be open to getting one if I could afford it. I realize that this will be my greatest expense but potentially my most effective advertising tool. How great a priority would you say this is?
    A webpage makes a big difference. You can easily build yourself one at . It won't be pretty but it will be sufficient. Also think about photography. Check out or . You may be able to work out a TFP arrangement with a photographer but in that case be aware he/she can do as they please with the images.

    I'm not ignoring the business side of your issue and I have an answer about Paypal. But before I go into that I notice you haven't asked any questions about your safety and security. That concerns me. Are you screening your clients? Have you taken a self-defense course? I assume that you're driving to and from these men's homes. Are you aware that your license plate number can be quickly and easily traced to your name and home address by paying a nominal fee online? The same with whatever number you're using to call and make appointments. You need a prepaid anonymous cellphone and you must register your future website privately or you will be collecting stalkers very quickly.

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    In chicago I seen an ed for $150.00 an hour. I think you are charging too little. What about gas expense, your cleaning and two lap dance I will probuarly charge at least $150.00 min.
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    Okay everybody, get comfortable because this might be one hell of a long post since you've given me so much stuff to think about and respond to. In order to make things easier to follow, I will be using a handy little numerical list format.

    1. Legitimizing my business. GCG, you are a very smart and serious lady and I have to admit, I've taken so long to get back to this thread because I feel kind of embarassed. Prior to getting started as a sexy housekeeper, I did none of the things you recommended. I just, as I said, bought some supplies and posted on CL. However, I know that I don't have the time to run a legitimate business, because I am a full-time student. I was thinking that this gig would allow me the same freedom as stripping did (or as regular housecleaning might), what with the off-the-books nature of the gig. Don't misunderstand me... I am certainly considering legitimizing my business now that you've given me some pointers, but I don't feel that this is the right time to do it. I know you might disagree with me, and I only ask that you be gentle in your chiding.

    This brings me to my second question...

    2. Personal safety risks aside, if I DO NOT register myself as a legitimate business and thus forgo PayPal and the like and accept the risk of flaky clients, are there any legal risks? That is, I am not offering prostitution, so I know I can't get busted for that, but can I actually somehow get into trouble if I do not register my business? What I'm envisioning is continuing to accept only cash and take appointments when they're convenient, but set up a webpage for self-promotion. Is it illegal to promote a non-official but otherwise legal service via a webpage and/or MySpace profile? (I realize this inquiry might betray the depths of my naivete, and I again beg your understanding and indulgence.)

    3. I realize that continuing to do things my way will necessarily entail dealing with flaky and unreliable customers, and I suppose that I ought to just accept that risk if I'm not going to go official. Smartcookie, I have been insisting that I talk to my clients on the phone in order to confirm an appointment, but many seem to flake at the very last minute (which is why I call right as I'm leaving... it's saved me 2 trips that would have been useless).

    4. $$$. I am happy with the money I'm making, as I've made about $1000 this weekend alone (Fri-Sun, 5 appointments/ 12 hours of work total including driving time). Leilani, I do charge for travel and gas. I think that I will stick with these rates for now, as I of course do not WANT to make any less money, and I worry that asking for more will eliminate potential clients (remember that this is FL during off-season and the big spenders, tourists, and snowbirds are not around. I'll think about hiking my rates in accordance with the season if I stick with this gig). However, I know that investing in an anonymous pre-paid cell (thank you Smartcookie) would definitely improve my overall situation, as I could post the number in an ad and not have to sit by the computer waiting for stuff to happen. Although I love dicking around on the internet and lounging around my house and drinking coffee, that ain't hustling. I know it.

    5. Security. As my license plate is registered to a large university (because I haven't gotten around to changing it since I lived on campus) I'm not terribly worried about that. I screen my clients less than many of you ladies would probably feel is appropriate, but I feel safe enough (I know that I might get totally yelled at for this, and I might deserve it. I have a tendency to be careless, and I haven't changed my ways because I've always been fine. Yeah, now I'll really get yelled at). I talk to everybody on the phone before I meet them and outline the exact services I'll be providing. I leave a name, phone # and address with a friend each time I leave for an appointment, and I call in the presence of the client when I arrive. I also check ID when I meet someone and spell the name on the license to the same friend if it doesn't match the name I've been given. I do not do background checks or check references. I am somewhat trained in self-defense, but I do not carry any sort of weapon. What sort of screening process would you recommend?

    6. Expectations of the customer. So far, no one has asked me in person to do anything that I didn't want to do. The one thing that I do make abundantly clear is that the only genital contact that occurs while I'm around is YOUR hand on YOUR penis. My clients seem to be fine with that. I have of course received numerous emails asking for FS/HJ/BJ/Greek/French/GFE/"Pipes Cleaned", you name it, but I those are clients that I do not see. I am steadfast about blacklisting clients that have EVER mentioned wanting sex from me, because I simply do not trust them.

    Okay I think that covers everything I wanted to say for now. I'm really enjoying what I do and you ladies have given me some very valuable tips regarding efficiency and economy. I'm going to go see what my free web page options are right now. Thank you very much.

    Edited because I can't live with myself when I make typos.

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    I am curious...how do your apts usually go? Like they follow you around as you clean or...? This sounds interesting, am just curious about how it works. I don't really have any experience with this so I don't have an advice to offer, but I just want to back everyone else up about security. You seem like you have your mind made up about it, but have you thought about maybe getting a driver, like I've heard escorts do? Like a large male friend just to drop you off and pick you up and make sure the customers knows someone will be back for you? Good luck and please be safe. One other thing I thought of...maybe you could charge 100 per hour for cleaning in a thong, and 150 for nude?
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    I always wanted to be a on call stripper that would goes to offices like dress in a hot pant suit and have awsome lingre on underneeth and provide in office lap dances. I don't know if that can really be done but if it can i will try it.

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    My appointments usually go like this. I arrive, in street clothes, carrying a crate of cleaning supplies, I introduce myself, ask if he minds if we sit and chat for a minute. We talk, I check ID, I call my "security," I make sure my client seems sane (they all have, so far). He shows me what he wants me to clean and I go over what I'm going to do and how I'm going to do it (i.e. "Okay, I see that your bathroom needs a little tidying, and did you want me to throw that laundry in? Can you get me a broom?" Etc.). I do this to emphasize that I really am there mostly to clean and am not in fact an escort in disguise. Then I start cleaning. Most guys want to hang out and talk to me while I work, which is just fine. Curiously, about half of them actually want to HELP, which amuses me. Of course I let them. As their time slot begins to expire, I ask them if they'd rather have me stay and clean a little longer (if I don't have another appt.) or if they'd like their promised lap dances right now, after which I will leave. Some want me to stay longer, some don't. In either case the session culminates in a few lap dances (2 or 3, I gave 5 to this one client because he was actually very sexy, but do not repeat that to anyone!). Only 3 of my clients have wanted to spank it while I danced, and I let them, that's fine, though once the weener comes out the lap dance becomes an air dance. Then I say thank you and go. It's very easy, and I enjoy it a lot because I like to clean and I like the kind of money available in adult work. So it's a very good job for me.

    (Oh yeah, although when I ran my ad I said that I would clean nude, I actually have this gross ingrown pubic hair that won't stop looking nasty [sorry, I know that's a lot of info, but it's relevant], so I haven't been removing my thong at any point during an appointment. I did for my guys last week, but this ingrown hair came on I think Friday night, and then I picked at it, and now I look like a pubic leper. Nobody's been complaining or asking me to get naked. I have a big tattooed butt and I think as long as they can see that, my clients are happy. I'm kind of a novelty act... my clients have undoubtedly seen a vagina or 2 before but they have probably never seen a tiger-striped butt.)

    I'm definitely considering hiring a driver after rethinking some of the advice in this thread. I know it would be prudent.

    krchab, I think anything sex-related can be done (perhaps not legally) so long as there are horny guys. I didn't think I'd get as many responses as I did... it just proves that there are hundreds of horny guys prowling all corners of the internet every day. I'm actually kind of impressed.

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    Okay, I am not going to chide you... just that you have a business that you could really make something out of... do you keep all your clients names etc on file (in a database) as such? Especially email addresses.... something as simple as putting out an email to all the people who have used your services at least once once a fortnight (so then it isn't harassing) will generate more revenue as with any business it is the return/repeat customers that are gold.

    I also agree with saying that it is erotic housecleaning.. topless only. Then at the booking if they want you to go nude it will cost X amount more and thus it can be regarded as a tip. This is something I do with topless waitressing. I love topless waitressing gigs as then I can convince the guys to pay me X dollars to go nude.

    When you say you usually give 2 to 3 lap dances... do you mean as in the duration/length of the lap dance (2-3 songs) or actually 2-3 one song lap dances throughout the time you are there??? I would suggest that you also BYO music and portable stereo just in case the client isn't adequately prepared.

    EDIT TO ADD: Are you comfortable doing "natural masturbation" and/or "toy/vibe" shows? I'm just thinking that if you really want to make some good extra cash with each booking that you may want to offer that you do a "natural masturbation" (fingers no toys) show for them for X dollars extra. They can still get themselves off whilst watching you get yourself off as such... this is not prostitution as far as I am aware... just a more erotic/xxx strip show.

    Security... DEFINATELY have a driver. Even if the guy drops you off and picks you up...or just sits in the car whilst you do your thing. This shows the person that there is no use doing anything actually to you since someone is definately waiting for you to finish.

    Otherwise, you seem to have it all under relative control. I do wish you the best with it!
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    I personally think you can charge more. I charge $100 an hour for sessions as a Dominatrix... and I'm cheap compared to many! I also remain clothed. I say if you want to stick with $100 per hour, do it in a bikini... or lingerie. Go up from there for topless and then more for nude. Dont do dances. Keep that a totally seperate business. It doesnt mesh well with the housekeeping niche, and it puts you at more risk for out of control grabbers. Post ads in fetish forums too. It IS a kind of fetish. Domestic fetishists are out there. Also try to put your ads in the local adult entertainment mags. I know Tampa has one. I used to be in the NYC ones... they list strip clubs, bachelor party girls, escorts, Dominas, etc....

    AVOID PAYPAL. As soon as they get wind of why you get paid, yer done. Go with AlertPay or StormPay...

    Get a damned MySpace page! As weak as that sounds.... I've boosted my client base since I've been on there... also there are lots of adult oriented groups there to post in....
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    Hello All!! To teethofhydra I think your idea is great I have alos thought of getting into the exotic houskeeping business but I also was interested in doing dominatrix work also. How can I get started ? PaigeDwinter I know you are an expert in the dominatrix business how can I get into it? All advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    ^^^ You have to train under either another Dominatrix, train at a professional dungeon, or learn from lifestyle Doms and Dommes for at least 1 - 2 years.
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    Thank you for replying so fast. I'm in New York city is there any dungeons that you can recommend that I go to train at? Thank you once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchezzBlayzze
    Thank you for replying so fast. I'm in New York city is there any dungeons that you can recommend that I go to train at? Thank you once again.

    I'd say the easiest to work at there is Nutcracker Suite. I've rented space from them before, and knew a few of the former Mistresses there. Its one of the nicer dungeons, and they are almost always looking for new Dominas to train.

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    D O I is nice too...

    http://www.thedenofiniquity.net/home.html

    I'd have to say D O I is my second choice...



    There are plenty of others, but I didnt dig them as much... And if I have to say anything about training under freelance Dominas, there are tons out there in that area, but I can honestly say... avoid anything to do with Mistress Intensity. She's a real nutbag, that one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeethOfTheHydra
    Personal safety risks aside, if I DO NOT register myself as a legitimate business and thus forgo PayPal and the like and accept the risk of flaky clients, are there any legal risks? That is, I am not offering prostitution, so I know I can't get busted for that, but can I actually somehow get into trouble if I do not register my business?
    That really depends on the state and city in which you live. Since what you offer can quasi-entertainment/quasi-consulting/quasi-cleaning service, you probably should look into what sort of business certificates (if any) a sole proprietorship needs to get in whatever county you live in. If you Google "Starting a business in [put in the name of your city/town here] Florida", you should be able to find government resources for those who own small businesses or those who are considering opening them.

    Is it illegal to promote a non-official but otherwise legal service via a webpage and/or MySpace profile?
    The short answer is: it depends. As far as I know, "self-service" is legal in most states, but you need to check Florida's criminal statutes to be sure. You also need to be aware of the rather aggressive stance Florida has taken when it comes to obscenity laws, and CYA (cover your ass) when it comes to promoting adult content that could potentially be viewed by minors. It's a very complicated topic that I could barely cover here, but this is a start:



    Security. As my license plate is registered to a large university (because I haven't gotten around to changing it since I lived on campus) I'm not terribly worried about that. I screen my clients less than many of you ladies would probably feel is appropriate, but I feel safe enough (I know that I might get totally yelled at for this, and I might deserve it. I have a tendency to be careless, and I haven't changed my ways because I've always been fine. Yeah, now I'll really get yelled at). I talk to everybody on the phone before I meet them and outline the exact services I'll be providing. I leave a name, phone # and address with a friend each time I leave for an appointment, and I call in the presence of the client when I arrive. I also check ID when I meet someone and spell the name on the license to the same friend if it doesn't match the name I've been given. I do not do background checks or check references. I am somewhat trained in self-defense, but I do not carry any sort of weapon. What sort of screening process would you recommend?
    This sounds like a decent screening process, which could be better with a few tweaks:

    Get a full name and address when booking and make it clear that this must be an actual and legal name because you will be checking ID upon arrival. Verify either or both at or .

    Is your last name unusual? If it is, it still wouldn't be that hard to find your current address with your first and last name...why not ask a big, burly male friend if you can use his address for your vehicle registration and other correspondence?

    I'd further recommend that if you show up and find that there are two or more people present when you weren't told beforehand that you leave. Immediately.

    I'd recommend a driver if you are doing bachelor parties, but if you're dealing with individual clients, then I don't think it's a necessary expense, provided you screen.

    I also don't recommend carrying weapons. Statistics prove they most often end up being used on the woman carrying them. I'd buy a copy of The Gift of Fear, and perhaps take a self-defense course.

    I second the idea of no contact 'private viewings', provided your state's laws don't have specific language that criminalize such behavior. I'd even go so far as to suggest that a dildo show would be better than actual physical contact with the client (from a legal standpoint), but I'm not a lawyer so don't quote me on that.

    You may also wish to invest in some sort of French maid costume to play up the fantasy and ask the client if he wants you to wear it.

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    I would treat it like I do sessions. In Florida any physical contact for money is prostitution. So girls who do sessions, at home bachelor parties, or the lap dances you've mentioned ARE risking arrest, if the issue is pushed. I dont register anything, and I dont use PayPal... so yes, I get flakers. No shows and a FEW weirdos... but I always have a gun in my bag and a driver. I also make them send me a scan of their State ID before I accept them as clients. Hell... maybe you can do a two girl gig. Its safer that way too... I honestly DONT know about business registry in Florida. This state is SO funky when it comes to laws. County laws change so much from one county to the next... hell, some times even town to town. Sheeez. I would HONESTLY talk to escorts and Dominas throughout your area. Treat your job how they treat theirs.
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    I've actually considered this sort of thing myself (i have a male friend who I was discussing it with, and he'd be a driver). I used to work as clothed house cleaner for an agency, and I enjoyed the work (there's a certain amount of voyeurism satisfied by going into people's houses..I dunno). But I agree with others that I think you could charge more if you're nude. The people I worked for charged 80$ for two hours of just cleaning, so I think maybe something closer to 200$ for NUDE cleaning would still sell.

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    See, with the last ad I posted I jacked up my rates to $150/hr, and now I have even fewer follow-thrus. Like, I had a bunch of immediate replies to my ad, but no responses once I told them my rates. I don't know if I'm marketing myself poorly or if I just have to accept that I live in a redneck state where common folk aren't gonna shell out the big bucks for my services. I was elated last week, but now I'm frustrated and a little despairing, because I only have 1 appointment lined up in the forseeable future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeethOfTheHydra
    See, with the last ad I posted I jacked up my rates to $150/hr, and now I have even fewer follow-thrus. Like, I had a bunch of immediate replies to my ad, but no responses once I told them my rates. I don't know if I'm marketing myself poorly or if I just have to accept that I live in a redneck state where common folk aren't gonna shell out the big bucks for my services. I was elated last week, but now I'm frustrated and a little despairing, because I only have 1 appointment lined up in the forseeable future.
    You haven't marketed yourself properly and it's also August, which is a slow month for sex workers everywhere). You've been given good suggestions on running a small business and improving your marketing efforts (some of which cost money, but in business it costs money to make money. You're articulate and obviously intelligent - what are you waiting for?

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    I'll throw a few fast opinions out there ...

    #1 - legitimizing your business - there are really two issues involved, liability and taxes. If you are not covered under an LLC or corporation, and if something untoward should happen at a client's residence, you're wide open for a lawsuit. From the tax standpoint, it varies from state to state whether or not a sole proprietor business is legally required to obtain a business license and a DBA, but all require that you report income and pay taxes. You never know if/when the IRS or a state tax dep't is going to spot your ad and try to match up a tax return.

    #2 - being busted for prostitution does not require that you are actually caught performing a conventional sex act. With most judges and juries, and with the way that most state prostitution laws are written re 'sexual conduct', a nude girl being paid to stand a few feet away from a guy who is masturbating should get you convicted in a local court should a nosey neighbor decide to make a police report. You can probably beat the charge on appeal, but the $5,000+ in legal fees will sure knock the hell out of your profit margin.

    #3 - the less 'professional' your business appears, the more likely it is that guys will think that they can try to 'bone' you and get away with it - literally and figuratively. Imagine yourself trying to report an incident to the local cops ... "well you see, officer, I run this 'unofficial' business which involves being nude in front of masturbating clients ..."

    #4 - ultimately, you legally owe some 30-40% of your gross earnings in income taxes and self-employment taxes. The more publicity there is about your business, the more you earn and spend and the bigger paper trail you create, the greater the odds that the IRS or a state tax agency will go snooping. Tuition payments are automatically reported to the IRS these days, which the IRS computers attempt to automatically match up to automatically reported student loans and grants plus individual tax return reported income.

    #5 - as is always the case with private clients and a location of THEIR choosing, there is a risk of a setup by LE as well as the risk of a client not wanting to take NO for an answer. Screening for this sort of thing is tough to do without the LE and PI contacts that an escort agency would have, for example.

    #6 - see above - without the 'threat' of a nearby bouncer, and with no real advance 411 on the client's experiences with other girls, there is always the risk of an incident ... which will then boil down to your word vs the client's word ... with a judge and jury usually taking the word of a client over the word of a 'sex worker'.

    Another more basic problem is that 'Nude Housecleaning' is now undoubtedly included on LE 'radar' as a potential source of major bad publicity thus warranting increased LE attention, plus a predisposition to consider anybody offering Nude Housecleaning services as being disreputable ...

    "Adult Ad in Scene Newspaper Led to Blackmail of Amish Man

    According to a United Press International story, a prostitute who advertised her nude house-cleaning service in Cleveland's Scene newspaper was arrested along with her boyfriend for allegedly scamming $67,000 from a 75-year-old Amish customer. The woman and her boyfriend were charged with extortion, theft from an elderly person and burglary for threatening to distribute incriminating pictures of the man to his church community. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeethOfTheHydra
    See, with the last ad I posted I jacked up my rates to $150/hr, and now I have even fewer follow-thrus. Like, I had a bunch of immediate replies to my ad, but no responses once I told them my rates. I don't know if I'm marketing myself poorly or if I just have to accept that I live in a redneck state where common folk aren't gonna shell out the big bucks for my services. I was elated last week, but now I'm frustrated and a little despairing, because I only have 1 appointment lined up in the forseeable future.
    Did you advertise in the adult magazines? The regular newspaper? Papers in differant areas?Have you also thought about puttting up a website that people will have to pay to see you clean nude?
    $150 is cheap for them to see you clean nude and give them two dances. Have you advertise in the rich areas in florida?
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    How did you advertise your ad?
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    While googling for some references the other day, I came across this site . It featured amongest it's lists Fantasy Maids, I clicked it to find out what it was.

    When I saw this post I suddenly thought of it!


    Some of them seem to be in Florida, if there in your area I'm not certain. But they look to be through agencys? Which may be worth a look if you don't want to create a legit business of your own yet? It may offer more better screening ability and regular bookings.

    Once you've worked for one for awhile, got some idea of how they operate and what legal requirements it may be easier to go out on your own.

    They also seem to feature tips over at Sexy Jobs this is the fantasy maid specific link:


    Hope it helps! Best of luck with it, after reading about them the other day it had me intrigued.

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