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    Hey Everyone.....All the sales techniques are less effective unless you know what you are selling. If a guy walks into a hardware store and asks for a drill, does he really want a drill? No, he wants a hole! If you own the hardware store, you are obviously an expert on making holes, and you can then suggest your drill.

    You can be an expert on selling drills, but you will meet with mediocre results. If instead you are an expert on making holes, you can suggest any tool that makes holes including your drill. You must understand the customer's REAL desire and fill it using whatever tools you have. What they ask for is RARELY what they really want.

    With guys in SCs, they ask you for all sorts of things (sex, phone numbers, attention, time, dinner, lunch, email etc.). But do you know why they ask for those things?? What do they REALLY want?


    PM or email for a website where you can learn from a customer's perspective what men REALLY want. I know the guy behind the website. He frequently will carry as much as $10,000 on him. Girls will almost never know that. He treats those he likes VERY well. When a new girl figures out what he's got, he almost ALWAYS gets offers for sex - often from girls who claim to never do that sort of thing. In other words, he's legit in what he is saying.

    When a guy asks for sex, it's not really sex he's looking for. Yes, you read that correctly. When a guy walks into a Ferrari dealer and asks for a Ferrari, does he really want a Ferrari? No he does not!!!! There is an emotional need behind what he is asking for. If you ask him what it is about a Ferrari he likes, why he wants one, he will tell you they look cool. If you ask what's good about looking cool, perhaps pulling up to a light in one of those toys, he might tell you it makes him FEEL important. The REAL need to FEEL important. It is an emotional need. The car is only a tool to satisfy the need. A customer will NEVER walk into a Ferrari dealer and tell you they are there to feel important.

    There is nothing emotional about sex to a guy. It is a mechanical act. He can carry it out on his own, with his wife or girlfriend, or with an escort. What is the emotional need behind it?? Why is he there paying you? When you satisfy the REAL need, your dancing dollars will skyrocket, and you can use the sales and hustling techniques to further get to the real need as long as it does not appear like manipulation.

    If you want to visit his site - please PM or email me for the website address as it is considered spam by the moderators if I post the web address over and over.

    Then let's see some comments.
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    Default Re: All the sales techniques are less effective unless you know this.......

    I liked this:


    Learn from an EXPERT CUSTOMER ! Learn from a MAN!

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    Default Re: All the sales techniques are less effective unless you know this.......

    I don't know where your head is at, but EVERY sales guide, marketing guide, car salesman, and anyone else that deals regularly with customers will tell you: Listen to your customers! And yes, the customers happen to be men.

    Here's a website written by a customer telling you exactly what he wants. Hey, you don't have to follow it. Whether you do or not, it does not change the fact that the advice works.

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    If I want to know what customers want, I'll peruse to the blue side...*shudders in fear*

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    *giggle* Hi I am Montana... and my favorite color is clear!!

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    Default Re: All the sales techniques are less effective unless you know this.......

    I think that there is some truth to your statements.........I'll try this next time and see what happens.

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    Cherry, Hi it's Mia from SCF again... Why are you so gung ho this advice? How are you connected to it? Remember what I said about hard sells? That's kinda the vibe you're putting out.

    BTW, asking vetern members "where thier head is at" is not a good way to make friends around here... that's really insulting. You're implying she's an idiot, not cool. Luckily, Montana's nice.

    You seemed alright on the other forum, but you gotta be less pushy and way more respectful here.

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    Okay, I get it!! Strip club customers want to drill my hole.

    Got it. now I know what I'm selling!!

    hehe


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    All joking aside, just because that one particular customer wants to be treated a particular way, does not mean everyone wants that same exact expeirence.

    What about our ever growing female clientele? How about couples? How about the guys out in a group or at a bachelor party? Younger customers want something different than older customers. Foriegn customers are usually looking for something different than locals. You can't pigeon hole every strip club customer into what ONE PERSON enjoys. That is stereotyping and makes about as much sense as stereotyping the dancers that work inthose clubs.

    So great, now I know what that ONE CUSTOMER wants when he comes into my club. Thanks, so how about the other 6 billion people on the planet?


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Default Re: All the sales techniques are less effective unless you know this.......

    If your original post is anything like your sales advice, I think I'd pass.

    Where do I even start quoting?
    "She has written so well, and marvellously well, that I was completely ashamed of myself as a writer...But this girl, who is to my knowledge very unpleasant and we might even say a high-grade bitch, can write rings around all of us who consider ourselves as writers"

    Ernest Hemingway on writer, aviation pioneer and horse trainer Beryl Markham


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    Okay, so I perused the "advice" and here is what the big secret is:
    As I stated before, it is NOT HIS sexual pleasure a man craves most. Instead it is YOUR OWN sensual pleasure, both physically AND emotionally. That is what a man wants to see and fully experience and share. He wants to immerse himself in your sensual pleasure at all levels. Most importantly, you must be TOTALLY OPEN to him being a part of it. Men will do ANYTHING to see a beautiful woman experience the most intense pleasure imaginable! It is her OPEN SHARING of this personal experience with a man that makes him feel he is the most special person in the world right then. And when you openly share that personal experience with him, he will VOLUNTARILY PAY YOU EVERYTHING HE OWNS!



    Uh, DUH! Like any moderatly successful stripper doesn't know that many guys come in to feel like Don Juan. What man doesn't want beautiful women creaming their panties by simply being in his presence?

    Now, the advice does not include how to convincingly fake that kind of attraction. That would actully be useful advice.

    Good try, though.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Hey ladies,
    I'm not quite sure why everyone seems to be offended by this post... am I missing something? It just seems like information someone put out there. If you choose to use it-great, if not- no big deal. That's what this forum is for, isn't it? Like I said, I'm tired from last night, so maybe I'm clueless.

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    I read everything on his website and I believe this is truely a soliciation for some beauty products and trying to advertise for free. Maybe this guy gets a cut out of the sales of beauty products on whatever it's called, Beauty Zone or something and probably by saying this and that on how to make more money to keep you reading and at the end hoping that you'll buy something. This is either a troll or someone who's trying to advertise for free. I read your advice and it wasn't very helpful. Please try some other approach and DO NOT insult our members by saying "I don't know where your head is", *rolls eyes*.

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    Derh..

    How self centered of you, no wait I mean how wonderfull of you to actually take the time out of your day to give sales advice to strippers.. I mean really, since we are like dirt and I mean seriously stupid to not know how to make money at our job.

    Like, totally! Some of us on this forum have been stripping for years and don't know jack squat about our own professions. Geeze. What ever will I do now that I have this, like, really valuable information in my hot little greedy hands.

    Gosh. I am so overcome with the awesome-ness of your kindness I like, might, pass out or something.

    Ew. Yuck. I am done speaking like and for the ones who don't get it, Yes, that was sarcasam laid on REALLY thick. Hopefully the dumbass troll will get the idea. Prolly' not, but hey - it was fun.

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    Default Re: All the sales techniques are less effective unless you know this.......

    Quote Originally Posted by FireTiger
    Hey ladies,
    I'm not quite sure why everyone seems to be offended by this post... am I missing something? It just seems like information someone put out there. If you choose to use it-great, if not- no big deal. That's what this forum is for, isn't it? Like I said, I'm tired from last night, so maybe I'm clueless.
    It's the way it was presented.

    If he came on here and said, "hi, I'm a customer and this is what I like. If you do it, I think you will make lots of money."

    But it was a website with ads forced on us. And the tone is very insulting. It's basically saying he knows more about this than we do because he's a customer, and because everything we do is less effective without his advice. Don't come off like you've got the Holy Grail when you just offer your own opinions (which are nothing new..."wow, you mean I should make him feel special and cater to his emotional side?") and expect to be received well.

    Humility goes a long way, especially for a newbie and especially for someone trying to sell something.

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    "Have your hair styled beautifully! Hold nothing back! Apply your makeup. Again, THINK CLASSY! Men and women alike enjoy classy women! If you treat yourself like some kind of street walker, expect others to as well. If you treat yourself well, others will follow your lead, and you will feel better about yourself overall. This helps your mind and spirit!

    Choose an outfit to wear today. A classy pair of jeans and a shirt is simple and comfortable and can look great on you! Wear some low heels or flats.

    Well, you've got my head turning just thinking about it! NOW GO SHOPPING!!! Not necessarily to buy stuff, but to announce to the world how great you look and feel inside! Get out and smile at people! First, visit the spa and get a massage! Again, you deserve it. Next, go to the mall. Just browse. This time is for you. Think about what you will buy when your income doubles!

    By now, you should be feeling great! This treatment of yourself is sensuous and pleasurable! But don't stop here! On the next page, we'll take it to the next level!

    Treat yourself to high quality! Indulge! Enjoy special body and hair care at BeautyZone!! You deserve it!"



    Ooohhhhh! Now I get it!!! Thanks, mister! You saved my career!
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    "MOST of you are clueless and you don't know it." "Someone just as dumb as you were when you started."

    If I insulted my customers the way "your brother" repeatedly insults his readers in his "page turning advice" I'd never make a dollar, aside from the occasional massochist.

    And it's great to try to relate to the reader, but I don't have kids, can't remember my bf ever being an idiot, and though I notice a suprlus of girls around the first of the month I don't scramble to make any payments. Maybe he should broaden his audience with a scenario ALL strippers can relate to. Like the intelligent, responsible ones on this site who take their jobs seriously and have money to spend.

    "At best, you have about 10 years of working and then someone new and younger comes along."

    PFFT! Pardon my brattiness, but that really got under my skin. I've been stripping for 14 years and I'm far from finished. Chalk it up to genetics and an obsession with a fit and youthful appearance. Sure new girls become old enough to dance every day. Some are really hot, some have great selling skills, some genuinely enjoy the job, and I'm happy being a combination
    of "all that" packed with my 14 years experience.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time is a precious currency. Don't waste your own, or steal it from others. No matter how much you think they have, or how little value you give them. - Me http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=isolabella

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    I modified the original post by removing the website url and replacing it with "Email or PM me for the website address" as I felt it was spamming of a website that may or may not be of interest to all the forum readers here. Plus the way the website address was put in large bold lettering just smacked of spam.

    I have also closed this thread as it is really of no further use. IMO. If you disagree with this, please PM me and I may re-open the thread.

    "At best, you have about 10 years of working and then someone new and younger comes along."

    That statement alone shows the ignorance of the author. Personally, I've always found dancers older than 27 made the most money not under. I also know plenty of females over the age of 30 who are still banking. I must admit that I find it easier to sell now that I'm older than when I originally started at 23-24 .... got too much "you're the same age as my daughter" crap when I was younger. Now that I am older, the patrons take me more seriously and I'm more desirable as they don't feel they are having a dance with someone their daughter's age.


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