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    I fell like other girls are hurting my money. If I leave a good custy to go on stage, 9 out of 10 times another girl is w/ them when I come back.

    What can I do, this has never been a problem before, but now it happens all the time.

    If I don't come back, I lose credibility and $$$, espically if they say something like "I thought you were going to come right back here". If I do, I'm stepping on another dancer's feet. Can I come back even if she's still there, if so how can I do it politely? I'm very agreeable, but I don't want to be taken advantage of or pushed over.

    I've also been told by other custys that they're waiting for so and so, which is great, but how do I make my guys say this more often? Is there something I can say to prod them into telling other girls this?

    Thanks ladies, you rock!

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    OMG I have the same problem guys would tell me be sure to come to my table but after getting off stage ill see anther girl there so yeah i need the same advice also is it rude if theres 2 guys and 1 girl and i go?

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    When I leave to go on stage, I say "I'll be back after my show" and I smile at them when I get my tips and tell them I'm going to finish getting my dollars before I come back... The girl is always gone by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beauty21queen
    OMG I have the same problem guys would tell me be sure to come to my table but after getting off stage ill see anther girl there so yeah i need the same advice also is it rude if theres 2 guys and 1 girl and i go?
    I don't think so. Just acknowledge her when you sit down.
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    I tell the customer straight out, 'In stripping, it's extremely rude to go up to a guy talking to another girl. I would LOVE to see you after my stage, but I only can if you tell them you're waiting for me so I can sit back down with you.'


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    yeah, what LM said.

    make sure he knows that your hands are tied and it's his responsibility to let the girl know that you are coming back (if that's what he wants). Sometimes the guy is actually hoping you'll leave, so keep that in mind.

    Some girls leave a drink there and sit down and take a sip in their way of saying, "see, I was here", but that really does no good if the two girls both stay put. He has to take the initiative to choose, but sometimes he doesn't know how to do it....so tell him! "I've got to dance on stage now, but when I come back, I want to dance just for you."

    OR....you can say, "I don't want to go on stage. If I'm in the VIP, I can get skipped and spend uninterreupted time with you." That sometimes work, unless he's one of those guys that insists he has to see you on stage first.

    This is pretty common when it's slow, so you have to know how to deal with it. You also have to do your part and not wait too long until you close the sale. And if you can avoid stage, maybe do that.

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    I might get flak for this but I'll leave my drink. That's a dead give away that someone's sitting with a custy. When I get back over and another girl is there I'll just sit back down. I'm never rude to the other girl but it's my wayof letting her know that I was there.

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    I usually see situations like this as an opportunity to seal the deal. If a guy already seems interested and I know I have to be on stage in a few songs, I just ask them if they'd like to go for a dance when I'm off stage (I don't like to offer dances when I know I only have time to do a song or two.) Then they are already definitely waiting for you.

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    While leaving for stage - "Oh I have to go on stage right now but when I get done we can go to the back/VIP/whatever and play! See ya in a few minutes!"

    Upon exiting stage and returning to seat with big smile - "Hey honey, I'm back! Ready to go play with me now?"

    I would do this and just give a polite smile to the other girl. Half the time they knew you were there and just waiting for you to leave so they could pounce. The other half they didn't know and so it's best not to be rude.

    This lets her know in no uncertain terms that you were there and working on him first so it's her cue to skedaddle.

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    Never had this problem really- or if i did i don't remember or care. What bothers me is when chicks dish and tell someone I'm wearing a wig. I can see them together talking about it, while I'm on stage and then later he's all eyeballing it. yuck. maybe I'm a little paranoid though....

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    Yeah, I find they usually wait if you tell them it won't be too long. We use 'booty towels' around here, so when a girl leaves her hankerchief on the seat next to a guy, it's a clear sign he's taken and she's on stage/ in the bathroom/ whatever. It's like leaving your drink, but no risk.

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    Tell them. It's best, because another glass on the table is not necessarily revealing, plus "reserving" customers is bad form to me. I've worked in clubs where it is actually against the rules. Being able to "reserve" a customer in a strip club makes no sense if the guy doesn't actively want to wait for you. If you does actively want to wait for you there is no need. As sucky as this is to hear - most of the time they really don't care. They will take you, or the girl that comes after you and it doesn't really matter to them. If they care, trust me, they will make sure that your seat is there.
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    Thanks ladies, I really appriciate the imput! I'm going to try LM's suggestion tonight. It's very upfront, so I'm sure I'll have to do it a bunch before it's comfortable. I also love Bridgette's suggestion, I'll try that too. Thanks again ladies!

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    yea i was going to say.... sell to him before you go on and tell him you are the best and if he agrees then tell him you will be back in a couple min and ask him to tip you while you are on stage..

    The sucky thing is quite possibly he is happy you left. There is nothing you can do in that situation, but know body language and his conversation reactions to know that you shouldn't have been wasting your time in the first place. Also, don't sit with this dude forever, time is money! If you aren't making it from him let another girl get it!

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    Tampa: I am making mney from him, that's why it bothers me!

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    The first club I ever worked at all the girls but one would do this to me. They would not do this to each other just to me. They hated me with a vengance. I would say the first thing you should keep in mind is that this is just a competition for money. I think you could do the following.
    1) Work closer with a waitress(make sure it is an assertive one)and have her hold your customer while you are on stage. Give her 15% of what you make off the customer.
    2) team up with a dancer and start sharing your with her customers in order to hold them.
    3) get a bright sparkly purse that is very noticible and ask the customer to watch it while you go on stage. Then if any girl sits with the guy you will need to stand up to her.
    4) Get the custmer into VIP. Find a way to say that you are the best dancer, and maybe drop hints that you are trying to save him from crazy, coke head, overly assertive strippers who rob customers. One thing that I have told other business men that they seem to understand is that the other girls do not like to work with me because I am new. They understand the pecking order from their own job and making them subtlely aware of this will sometimes be good for your money.
    I do not like to get mean and assertive, but in this business it is a must. If you do not stand up for yourself you will get run over.
    Do the dancers do this to other girls or just you???
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    I just say in a little girl voice, "Oh, I have to go on stage. Would you save my seat?" and they always do. If there is another girl sitting with him when he gets back, then walk by so that he can see you came back. Give him a polite smile and eye contact, but keep walking, as though to say "I can see another girl is in my seat. I'll be polite and let you continue conversing with her, and if I have time I'll check on you later. In the meantime, I'm moving on..."

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    I must note: Most men DO NOT know it's rude in the Stripping Industry to not talk to a guy when another girl is talking to him. They just don't know. So they won't know they're ruining their chance to talk to you by entertaining another girl for a few moments. That's why I tell them. Before, when I didn't tell them, they'd ask why I never showed up, they were only talking to BigBoobs for a few minutes! I should've come over!! I told them about Stripper Customs and they understood.

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    Guys hear a million times that a dancer will "be right back" only to see them dancing for someone else and feeling like a chump for waiting. Or they will wait patiently for a girl to finish a set only to see her go off with someone else. Basically, if a dancer is not with us right this second, then we look for the hottest girl we can find. If we don't find one, we wait and we may hook up later on with the dancer who told us to wait. Not insulting anyone, but that's the way it is and it does cut both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_dude
    Guys hear a million times that a dancer will "be right back" only to see them dancing for someone else and feeling like a chump for waiting. Or they will wait patiently for a girl to finish a set only to see her go off with someone else. Basically, if a dancer is not with us right this second, then we look for the hottest girl we can find. If we don't find one, we wait and we may hook up later on with the dancer who told us to wait. Not insulting anyone, but that's the way it is and it does cut both ways.
    Yeah, except if she's going on stage, it's not to dance with other customers.

    If you're worried about feeling like a chump, just say, "I was talking to Bubbles and she'll be back when she's done with her set."

    But if you really liked her, then take her while you've got her. And if you are unsure, let her know you won't wait too long for her to come back because you are there to have fun.

    But with all that said, this is about how to deal with the other girls who sneak in when your'e on stage, not the customers.

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    Thanks again ladies, I tried your advice out yesterday, and I think it made a difference. I know it's a competition for money, there is always a conversation in the DR at night talking about who was the top earner! I know it's not b/c I'm new, just b/c I'm successful, I've been at my club over 9 mo. I did see 2 girls get the brush off (politely) from my guy, so they relized I would only come back if they were alone.

    StripperMBA:
    As wierd as it sounds, I'm not too crazy about vips. I don't generally offer them unless a guy asks, b/c we only get 100$ for a half hour plus a tip. I almost always make more on the floor, espically with a good custy.
    I do like your idea of a waitress helping me out, and I always do that, to a lesser extent, like getting her to ask him if he'd like more club money when he's running low.

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    Man, I had this issue about a week ago. There was a guy who'd come in a few weeks ago -- we had a brief conversation, he loved me, but he'd already asked another girl for dances and there was only 10 minutes left of club time, so we were both booked. He comes in again another night and is talking with/getting dances with another girl. She goes onstage --- we talk for a while, when she gets back she sits on my lap... um ok? (We're at the bar, he isn't buying her drinks, he's only talking to me at this point) I go onstage -- he tips me a ten -- I tell him I'd love to dance for him -- he gestures to her, says he has to fulfill his obligations. Later he flags me over, we do several dances. She comes and just sits around in the dance area, and so he tells me he needs to get dances with her. They don't actually do dances -- she just comes over to me five minutes later and says he just wants dances with me. I go over, we do more dances, he spends about one song massaging my back. The other girl comes over to our couch and starts rubbing the front of me for a song... uh... I didn't ask for it... I'm very polite though, but the dynamic makes it obnoxious because I can't count that as a "real" dance.

    So yeah. She realized that this guy liked me more than her, but insisted on just trying to 'team up' with me lesbian-style in order to get his attention -- the money didn't even matter to her. Yeeeesh. He even realized it. Oh well. About fifteen minutes later I see her crying in the dressing room. I guess she got drunk and was just breaking all sorts of social conduct rules, and it's obnoxious that she thought she could break them with me.

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    Anomar, That sucks, but at least she was drunk, and you still made your $$$

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    No disrespect to whomever posted the "leave" the drink comment, but you should NEVER EVER EVER leave a drink with a customer... never. Not even if there are other girls sitting at a table. It only takes a heartbeat for someone to sleep a potentially lethal drug in your drink, and honestly, nobody but you is going to watch that drink close enough to know what's going on. Customers don't have the best intentions all the time and some are out to hurt us. Same goes in a bar. I will take my drink to the bathroom, whatever, if it's at work or out. If I look rude or paranoid, I don't care. I was once drugged while I was bartending (who would drug a bartender? Like, how were they planning on getting me out from behind the bar ?)= Not cool man. It happens all the time. In big and small cities...please be safe girls


    Also, NEVER leave your purse with a custie, unless there is NO money in it... I once left my purse with a VIP customer, because I assumed it was safe since he had just paid me 400 dollars for an hour and bought a bottle of champagne... yeah, he jacked the money out of my purse. Not all my money, just the 400 he paid me.. lovely. So never leave anything anywhere anyone can grab it !!

    What I would do is tell your customer you want him to see you dance , or you want to dance for him onstage, whatever comes out naturally, and make him sit at your stage while you are up, then take him back down when you get off.

    If you must leave him and another girl sits down, you could work the "oh my gosh! I'm so glad my you met (insert name here)!! She's so sweet and pretty" and then try to tag team him.

    If girls are pushing you around, after you try my first two suggestions, just ignore the girl who sits down by you and talk to your custie. She should leave

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    I would do one of two things (or both):

    Say, "Damn, I have to go up soon...do you want to rescue me from my stage set? I'd much rather be having fun in the back with you."

    He will either say yes, or he will ask you to come back when you're done on stage.

    In the latter case you can say, "Well, you wouldn't mind holding my seat, would you? I'll be back as soon as I'm done, but only if you aren't busy with someone else. Just tell anyone that comes by that __(your name)__ will be right back."

    And if there is another girl there when you return, thank her for holding your seat for you. She'll (hopefully) get the hint.

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