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    i was reading the phx bustings thread it really suxx that you can get a ticket and a record for prostitution just bcs of a lapdance.

    so i m trying to figure out how to stay away from possible cops not bcs i m into dirty dancing but just bcs these guys incriminate you for the smallest thing ,like dancing with the chest too close to their face...or sit in the lap one second too long...

    therefore i study the guys in the club and go for :

    A) older guys - over 60 - little chance that they are a cop at that age
    B) guys that already had dances w other girls and they r still buying
    C) mexican / construction workers
    D) fat guys and short guys - not likely to be hired as policemen-
    E) groups -- better if young partying guys with baseball hat reversed


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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    Vice cops come in all shapes and sizes. I believe I've met a "couple" once but nothing bad happened. They were not very touchy feeling with eachother like real couples would be. The gf was wearing a stripper rhinestone necktie with a leather jacket ....a bit much for a woman of her age. They asked all sorts of incriminating questions such as "can we touch?" and "so what really goes on back there?" and "can we have sex with you?" They didnt take the show b/c most cops will spend less than 80 bucks total to try to get you into trouble here. For a couple show its 80 to go back hence 2 people Im getting naked for plus tips which arent cheap either.

    You shouldnt avoid certain customers b/c you think they are cops. You might end up going for the cop by accident in the end. Usually they ask questions pretty much any icky customer would ask such as: "Would you come to my hotel for an extra $100", "So how far do you go in VIP" or "Where can I get some *sniff sniff*". Just handle odd behavior as you would any other customer. Never ever insinuate they might get more if they did such and such.
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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    yes Tigersmilk those questions are red flags!

    althought many customers also ask them...

    but yeah i was just thinking what kind of guys are less likely to be undercovers...

    of course is never a safe bet but chances are slimmer...

    btw , Lmao @ the lady cop with rhinestones!!!

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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    funny, i just had an undercover last week.

    he was middle eastern,about 55+ years, fat,short....being of an ethnic origin and older doesnt mean they arent undercover cops. not all hands one types. you knnow there are detective pen pusher types too.

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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    I've met a lot of undercover cops. They come in all shapes, sizes, ages, races, sexes, etc. Some are even cute

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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    I wish there was a fool proof way to avoid them. But I have not found it yet.
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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    gotta relay on instinct then...

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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    I went into another club in my area as a customer and the girl who danced for me actually asked me if I was a cop! She then informed me that a lot of undercover vice cops are women because thats what the dancers least expect.

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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    I had a weird question asked to me tonight. I danced 2 songs for this guy that was with a group of 3 other people, and one of the people the guy I danced for was the one that paid me. Anyway, after I was finished dancing the 2 songs, a girl that was in the group asked me if I'd rub my "stuff" in his face. I asked her "What do you mean" (playing dumb) She said "Can you rub your boobs or anything else right up in his face?" I said "No, not at all, we're not that type of club". THen she said "Do you know of any dancers here that are willing to do that?" I said "No, there's not any dancers here that will do that, if they do they'll get fired". I then said "if that's what you're looking for, you should go to another club because that doesn't go down here". I wonder if they were cops. I thought it was strange that a woman asked that. It's common for another guy to ask that but I thought it was weird that a woman asked me that. I wonder if they were undercover cops. WHat do you all think?

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    Default Re: how to avoid undercover cops?

    Leogirl: Probably cops.

    I agree it seems the cops come in groups, often with a woman. They may not sit together though - if 3 of them come in, they may spread out and act like they're not together.

    I have been in HiLiter at least 3 times when girls got ticketed. It's almost always only one girl and for stupid stuff like putting boobs in face, taking money in the costume, etc.

    I once had a woman in a group of men very aggressively "ask" (more like order) me to come dance for her when I finished my stage. I didn't like the way she approached me - too aggressive and pushy - so I ignored her. She came up and tried to get me to come over 3 times as I table-hopped. Later on another dancer was sitting in the dressing room reading the TWO tickets she'd just gotten and discussing with a couple other girls. They were saying something about a female cop observing her put boobs in a guy's face, etc. Now, I don't know if that woman who I wouldn't dance for was a cop, but I sure felt glad I hadn't danced at her table anyway!! She gave me a bad feeling....

    Considering they have so far been giving out maybe 1-2 tickets at a time, and the number of girls in PHX clubs, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just be careful, and realize that you can get ticketed for minor stuff and if you get 3 within (I think) 3 years, you lose your license to dance.

    I agree with other posters who say they may ask incriminating questions and could look like anything so you'd be wise to answer any potentially incriminating questions with "no". And if you're really worried, keep your dances clean. It certainly is possible to make good money in PHX with clean dances.

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