




you have no idea how much this disappoints me.
People are not ruled by their memories.
Tom & Jerry are a classic!!! Every thing now just keeps changing for the WORSE!!
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I LOOOOOOOVE Tom & Jerry!!!! I used to have Tom& jerry towels and tchotchkes! It's cool if Tom doesn't smoke. I wouldn't want my future son thinking it's cool to smoke for a girl. They'll still be funny!
^^ Just as long as it's cool for your future son to think it's ok to go after someone with a rake.
They weren't meant for kids when they where created, but at the same token, EVERYTHING requires good parenting. Including the episode where tom mixes all shit he found under the sink to make a poison for jerry. Much easier imitatable behavior found within the confines of those shows then smoking.![]()
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really good point! logically, the other stuff should be more of an issue than smoking, although i don't think there should be problems at all. mast is right...it's up to the parent to tell his or her child that cartoons are cartoons, not reality. same thing with smoking....parents can give the anti-smoking lecture as well. i dislike censorship.Originally Posted by Mastridonicus





Oh they HAVE to be kidding! A) They are NOT current cartoons, and do NOT have current humor. B) They are NOT cartoons for small children! Half of the humor, even when they were new and up to date, was aimed at adults. C) If your kids cant figure out what is realistic and what is not in cartoons, time for mental health help.
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My brother bought some old Bugs Bunny cartoons for the kids. One of the skits DEFINITELY was from a different time with their rendition of a black character. We were watching it going OH MY GOD!!!
Cartoons is just one of my things. Chuck Jones was very upset before he died when he was informed that they where going to color all the black lady's legs white in the tom and jerry eps he directed AND change her voice. And yosemite sam was going to be removed from all his appearances.
These shows where invented to inspire humor in times when all other media was out of our reach. They should be pulled from prime-time and treated like pieces of history.
The problem isn't that are kids are watching tom and jerry smoke, but our society's definition of what is humorous as changed so much that we look at anything animated and think "Toddler", let alone looney tunes and think juvenile. No one thinks back to smiling at these 3 minute humorous sketches inbetween news reels of WWII just before your feature film showed that you paid 8 to 10 cents to get in to.
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Ugh. Just....f'n UGH. The PC Gestapo make me so furious. I know the "Texas Tom" episode quite well, and I agree with Mast about the ridiculous nature of removing the brief cigarette scene but leaving in all the other just as nonsensical violence. They are a product of the time period they were made in, which is different in many ways to today. God forbid anyone actually, oh, I dunno, monitor what their kids watch or bother to explain what it is they're seeing. It's much easier to complain and make them change things to the way you think they should be, rather than risk offending or otherwise influencing your precious little rugrats. Again, UGH. Though, admittedly, I always kinda did wanna get shot at a lot, and then think "Whew! He missed!" and then go get a drink of water. Sprinkler! And I always knew I couldn't because, well, duh. Likewise, cats don't roll their own one-handed, much less smoke them to impress that sexy white cowgirl cat. It's not a big leap of logic to understand that neither are good options to pursue. IT IS A CARTOON. STFU AND MOVE ON, PEOPLE.
waffles are just pancakes with little squares on them.
Fucking a... don't include smoking in any new episodes, but you have to go back and edit it out of the orginals? Fucking nazis.
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This just exemplfies why we need the Simpsons, South Park, and [adult swim] more than ever. Before long the food nazis will be going after Cookie Monster and Garfield.
Oh, thats right. They already got Cookie Monster.
http://www.nationalreview.com/goldbe...0504220746.asp
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Yeah but thats PBS, home of the Nazis... Tom & Jerry though... thats the home of childhood violence and fun...
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Current children's television gets on my last nerve. T & J was, and still is, my all time favorite kid's show. Love it. To death. But censoring it makes me want to find the dumb shit who had the idea and yack in his mouth.
So... now we're gonna have what? Boring ass cartoons? Everything is gonna be a Captain Planet rip off? Fun. Really... and that leaves us with the live action and non-animation shows. Great. So shite like those Krofft-Brothers-On-Super-Acid Telletubbies are gonna be our kids future? Ew.
And when did we have racist cartoons?![]()
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Marek says, "A friend of mine got punched in the face by a dominatrix stripper about two weeks ago and I thought of you."





They're pretty common. If you can , get your hands on some tapes of oooold cartoons from the forties, fifties, etc. Or you can check out Turner Classics. They sometimes drag those out. There's racist Bugs & Tom & Jerry.Originally Posted by PaigeDWinter
I still think it's a good idea to tweak the scenes since they weren't meant for kids and so many kids aren't supervised since both parents work. It can't hurt.





Were they actually racist, or simply portraying the way media and the public portrayed minorities at the time?
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Marasmus says, "Oh no, that wasn't gas, it was merely a rectal chuckle."
Marek says, "A friend of mine got punched in the face by a dominatrix stripper about two weeks ago and I thought of you."





What's the difference if the way minorities were portrayed by the media and in public was racist? Does that make them better if it was publicly accepted? I don't think they're great examples of art, but we shouldn't Bowdlerize "Steamboat Willie" -- we should use it as a reminder of how bad it used to be. As for the smoking, oy. Just don't show those episodes to children if they're so freaking dangerous.
Now let's worry about some truly dangerous media, like, oh, say, junk food advertising.

I've always believed that these cartoons are purely products of their time, and that to tamper with them like this would be wrong, even if it is in the name of stopping young people from taking up smoking (which ought to be left to the relevant authorities in any case).




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I'm a collector of old cartoons, some of them really raunchy if you compare them to cartoons of today. They give great views of how the world was like yesteryear. If we take the originality out of them to make them acceptable today, then you're taking away history is how I see it.
RIP Tom and Jerry...
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I know this is a bit old but when I was looking at original Mickey Mouse I freaked out. I went to the vault and OMG... Mickey was a racist rapist bastard!! He actually tried to RAPE Minnie many MANY times.. and he stalked her.. and we think cartoons nowadays are bad. Sheet.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=9hPLOZrSD_A
Original SteamBoat Willy... including pulling pigs tails and swinging a cat over his head after making it scream. And that's the first cartoon!!
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Act like a lady
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Idiocy.
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Damn, way to pick up a year-old thread, new dude.
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