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    Close to becoming a RIL - Longggg

    OK ladies, I know that there’s been hundreds of these posts in the past, but I’m not a newbie and I need dancer help/confirmation please. First here’s the background and I apologize for the length.

    I’ve known my ATF for more than 4-years now. I’m an out of town reg and I visit her club like 3-4 times/yr, but usually 2-nights in a row.

    I’m always respectful, pleasant, a gentleman and I always tip after her dances or when she goes on stage. I’ve never asked for her phone #, never tried to ask her out or any other type of personal information. She volunteered her “real name” to me a couple of years ago. I knew that she had a b-friend, but the relationship ended about a year and half ago.

    Well the last couple of times, she’s dropped some minor hints such as asking me “if I have a girlfriend now or if I got married yet.” She would ask this almost immediately after greeting me and asking how I’ve been. My response has always been “no”. Or while giving me dances in the VIP room and telling me “you’re cute or you’re the cutest and kind of giggling”. (I took this for good SS.)

    Forward to this past weekend, after telling her that I was still single, she proceeded to say "well maybe we should go out then." However, she quickly put in a disclaimer of "oh I guess we shouldn't cross the line." Plus it was all of the above and telling me “you’re exactly my type” and asking me “what’s your type.” I told her that I preferred petite brunettes. She’s petite, but a blonde, so she took it as a compliment since I’ve been such a good custy over the years. (BTW It wasn’t meant to be a compliment.) Both nights, I only asked her to dance 2-sets and on the 3rd set to just cuddle and chat. While cuddling, she continually gave me little kisses on the side of my cheek and near my ears. It was more than a handful of those little kisses. Also during the dances, she asked if she could unbutton my top buttons which was a first. I said “sure” and she then proceeded to kiss my chest and lick my nipples and continued to rub my chest and lower stomach while she snuggled next to me.

    At this point, I decided to take her little hints and ask her if she would like to have dinner the next time that I visited. She immediately said “yes” and asked “you’re not just saying it right, you mean it?” I told her that I was serious and she better not flake and then told her next time that I go to, it would be for New Year’s, so we kind of made a “date” for New Year’s Eve already. I proceeded to ask for her number (1st and only time that I’ve ever even mentioned telephone # in 4-years). She immediately offered it to write it down for me, but didn’t have a pen and we didn’t want to arouse suspicions by asking for one, so I gave her my cell # and she called and left a v-mail with her number while sitting facing me. I picked-up the v-mail the next morning, since I don’t take my cell into the clubs. She also told me to call her by her real name in the future, if I wanted. She asked me if I remembered her “real” name which I did.

    It’s funny. This weekend we actually talked about the kind of movies and food that we liked. It was more of a get to know each other conversation then the usual “hi, how you been and how’s business?” kind of conversation. It was nice.

    OK now to my question, I know many of you ladies have said “if she’s interested then she’ll let you know.” Would you consider these obvious signs to let me know that she is interested in something other than a custy relationship?


    She really has no incentive to SS me, since I always ask for her, spend money on her and am not going to be going anymore than I already do, since I am from out of town. I would have continued to buy dances from her, even if she said “no” to dinner. BTW she’s always told me that she didn’t really like Regs because they all ended up falling in love.

    Next question is how soon should I call her? Call in the next couple of days since I just got her number and try to firm some things up as to where she might enjoy going to for dinner and maybe additional calls to just chat or wait until it gets closer to the end of the year? I’d have to make reservations early for NY Eve’s anyways, since most places would be booked in her city.

    TIA and taking the time to read this long post.
    Last edited by CalifSCVisitor65; 09-05-2006 at 10:04 PM. Reason: more info

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    Default Re: Close to becoming a RIL - Longggg

    I'm assuming you want to date her, otherwise why bother. If that's the case, just have a conversation with her. There is no way for us to know based on anything that you've written. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Close to becoming a RIL - Longggg

    You don't call her. She calls you. Rule #1.

    It's always helpful to remember that the dancers do the choosing. Until she calls you, meets you, makes it abundantly clear that she is personally and significantly interested in you, spends OTC time with you, and refuses to take any more money from you, then it's just that exotic cocktail of SS, club fun and innocent flirtation.

    I'm so sorry that this sounds blunt, but it's the rules of the game. And I know that you really want to hear from the dancers and not from us. So I will bow out and allow the dancers to share their abundant wisdom on this topic.

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    Default Re: Close to becoming a RIL - Longggg

    Well since you're from out of town it could just be really good SS.

    Then again, what you wrote seems convincing enough to possibly be real.

    I wouldn't call her right away, maybe in a week or two to ask about reservations and such, since you know things will be booked early And normally I'd agree with TOO that you should wait and see if she calls you, but she kinda already put the ball in your court by initiating the convo and by leaving you a VM in the first place. So I say call her, but not too soon. If I were the girl in this story and I were interested, I would expect you to call next and I would NOT call until you did.

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    Best listen to bridgette. She already called you.

    Be careful with your heart, dude. Go slow and cautiously.

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    Default Re: Close to becoming a RIL - Longggg

    It's always helpful to remember that the dancers do the choosing. Until she calls you, meets you, makes it abundantly clear that she is personally and significantly interested in you, spends OTC time with you, and refuses to take any more money from you, then it's just that exotic cocktail of SS, club fun and innocent flirtation.
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    Your story is pretty convincing, and it isn't obvious what motive she has to bullshit you, unless that's just her MO. (Which is always a possibility, of course.) Call her -- she wants you to, or she wouldn't have given you her number. Don't wait TOO long, either -- more than a week is rude by my standards.

    There's no way to tell until you spend some time with her what exactly is going on. She could be looking for a sugar daddy, or just keeping up good customer relations, or whatthehell, maybe she's really into you. Stranger things have happened. Keep an open mind and don't get taken for a ride.

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    She has given you an opening. If you never call, you will have completely blown it and missed your chance. Next time you see her it will be right back to SS. Call her within a week. If you get no response from her within a week of your call, you can safely assume this is SS. The only way to find out is to call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Best listen to bridgette. She already called you.

    Be careful with your heart, dude. Go slow and cautiously.
    VERY SLOW indeed, even though you spend OTC with her it often doesn't mean anything. When OTC money comes in to play and you start "loaning"? her $$ or giving her "gifts"? watch out UNLESS you have a CLEAR understanding upfront that she will repay you and or your just a generous "sugardaddy" with no expectations of a return on investment. Ball is in her court remember what the pic says.... I have the pussy, so I make the rules!

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    Thanks all, much appreciated. You all made excellent points and it's the same things that my friend said too. He always goes to the club with me and he "knows" her too.

    I'll take Bridgette's advice and wait a couple of more days to call, but definitely before the week is out.

    Thanks all.

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    Sorry, unless she's talked about 'not being a customer anymore' - it's more than likely just SS from a gal who's bored.


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    I think she sounds genuine. Then again, I don't do the hard OTC hustle. So if that is her hustle, then it's completely foreign and weird to me, and completely confusing as to why she would say all of those things and talk to you on the phone.
    I have done the neck- kissing thing when I think a customer is hot, and I have considered fucking several of the hot ones, but I never really act on it. It just makes it easier for me to sell dances.
    I never give out my number unless I absolutely mean it 100%. Or if I'm really wasted. But that's never the case anymore. So yeah, maybe if she's not a drunk, she probably means it.
    Just keep an eye on your wallet. I don't mean don't spend money or don't take her out, make sure you don't start paying her rent unless you're cool with it. If she starts bitching about money problems, jet.

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    I agree w/the various dancers posting--assuming the story you tell is more or less how things went, it's really hard to understand why she'd be trying to play you in this way and after so long. Call her just like you'd call any woman who gave you her number.

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    Never assume that a dancer has no incentive to play you. Any dancer worth her g-string knows that, eventually, guys will go looking for fresh talent unless they find ways to keep your interest. Dangling OTC possibilities is way #1!

    Also, listen to TOO: The woman does the choosing in this environment. Words to live by.
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    Thanks again all for all the advice.

    Well I called and got her v-mail which is her identifying herself with her "real" name. So we'll see if she bothers to call back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    and completely confusing as to why she would say all of those things and talk to you on the phone.

    I never give out my number unless I absolutely mean it 100%. Or if I'm really wasted. But that's never the case anymore. So yeah, maybe if she's not a drunk, she probably means it.
    Alexxa, she didn't talk to me on the phone. Just called my cell while I gave her the number; so that, she could leave her number.

    She definitely wasn't drunk. She just got to work and we had a total of 1-drink each in about an hour.

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    oooo oooo, let us know if she calls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holiday
    oooo oooo, let us know if she calls!
    LOL Holiday ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalifSCVisitor65
    Alexxa, she didn't talk to me on the phone. Just called my cell while I gave her the number; so that, she could leave her number.

    She definitely wasn't drunk. She just got to work and we had a total of 1-drink each in about an hour.
    I see. Sorry, I misread your post.

    Also I wanted to add that you should consider how much $$ you have spent on her in proportion to how much she makes off a usual customer. If what you are giving her is a little on the high end in relation to what you think most customers do, then keep your eyes open. Also, does she know what you do for a living? If it is a really good job and she knows, then also be aware.
    I'm trying hard not to scare you here, just letting you know all hustlers keep these things in mind.


    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
    I see. Sorry, I misread your post.

    Also I wanted to add that you should consider how much $$ you have spent on her in proportion to how much she makes off a usual customer. If what you are giving her is a little on the high end in relation to what you think most customers do, then keep your eyes open. Also, does she know what you do for a living? If it is a really good job and she knows, then also be aware.
    I'm trying hard not to scare you here, just letting you know all hustlers keep these things in mind.
    Good luck!
    I hear you thanks. Well I got her v-mail and haven't heard back in 2-days, so I'm pretty much just chalking it up to super-sized SS.

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