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    Default how can i defend stripping in my class

    i just started a pop culture and socity class today and the first topic was an ad looking for hooters girls. he talked about sex in the media women, as sex objects, and brought up a story about a father who said he would be proud if his toddler grew up to be a stripper. (i think thats pretty gross to but the assumption there is that stripping is a bad thing to do in general and somthing to be ashamed of)

    what books or articals or just clever points could i bring up when this happens again in the future? what can i say to counter the argument that stripping contributes to objectifing women. in a way it does, but in another way the big spenders want personality.

    anything would help

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    My personal opinion is that men will look at women as object most of the time NO MATTER WHAT. THere's nothing we can do to change it. By making yourself available and by "putting yourself out there" if you will it just shows that there are beautiful women who have personalities and that are not just bimbos. A lot of people think that's what strippers are. Is stupid girls who can't get a job...WRONG! Show them they are wrong. Turn on miss personality and tell them that if they were wrong once about you, it's not fair to judge any girls from now on. Sorry, I dont' know if that helped at all, but that's what I would say.
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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    Why do you need to defend stripping to begin with? If it's what you do.. well fine. If not, bluntly put.. Fuckem.

    I feel no need to validate myself or my job(s) for someone elses cheap thrills and thats exactly what it is.

    - Exotic dancing makes a woman self sufficent. Plus for the ones struggling with bills or school, single moms - it gives them a great way to play catch up and keep their families whole and safe. Or would these so called dissaproving ones rather have somebodys Mommy putting their kids up for adoption and or going on welfare? No, they don't want that.

    If I were you I'd suggest that the so called teacher do a little bit more research on the subject before indulging in what boils down to simple and mostly untrue propaganda.

    Just my view.
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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    what can i say to counter the argument that stripping contributes to objectifing women.
    This one's easy:

    The only thing women hate more than being a sexual object, is not being a sexual object.

    Let them chew on that for a bit...
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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    Casual that is an awsome statement and very true i never thought of it like that if that was not true cosmatic surgerty and the make up industry would crumble.

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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    Quote Originally Posted by metal_n_mitsu
    My personal opinion is that men will look at women as object most of the time NO MATTER WHAT. THere's nothing we can do to change it.
    Righto. Dancers are among that fraction of the female population able to monetize what happens all the time anyhow.

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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    This one's easy:

    The only thing women hate more than being a sexual object, is not being a sexual object.

    Let them chew on that for a bit...
    This would work perfectly. Great reply, CO!!

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    I really recommend the book Whores and other Feminists. It's got a bunch pieces by sex workers in different areas of the industry. It addresses various negative viewpoints of the sex industry, including that of radical feminism, from a sex-positive feminist viewpoint. I've reread it multiple time when I've gotten sick of people making negative comments about the sex industry - it almost always make me feel better, and it has some valuable points to make in defense of fabulous us!

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    Last edited by Paisley; 09-06-2006 at 10:49 PM.


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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    I dont think most of the world is ready to know the stripper secert. A lot people still have not accept the fact, women have brains and most them are smater than men.



    You are tellin me that long legg blonde only wants my money when she dance with me. that will me she dont think I am hot! That will mean I got hustle.


    What you are saying that long legg blonde his smart, that she is in medical school and pays her way by stripping. No that wound'nt be possible! That will mean she only dance with me to pay her bills. NO! Women cant seperate emotion from work! What are you thinking!
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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    thanks for all the advice, the site paisley recomended looks really good.

    as to the question of why i want to defend stripping, well its not for myself, i dont really care that much if people dont like strippers in fact if they dont like it, i enjoy telling them about it that much more. it more for truth, which i still think can be valuable from time to time. people in class might learn somthing from hearing the other side of the argument.

    one thing i did think of was that before stripping i had a very hard time saying no to men in sexual situations, i always felt that since i made them horny i owed them. but since i started dancing i learned to set boundries and say no when ever i feel like i want to, some nights im more strict then others but i never feel bad about my choices because they are truly mine.

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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    I would say that if either way society or men will see women as sexual objects, at least this way I'm making a very good living for myself being one. Of course then the issue gets reversed and it becomes "can't women not be sexual objects at all."

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    Default Re: how can i defend stripping in my class

    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    This one's easy:

    The only thing women hate more than being a sexual object, is not being a sexual object.

    Let them chew on that for a bit...


    Infinitely true!

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