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    sad. they should be tried as adults.

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    I am officially old now because I am saying "Man, kids these days have no clue."

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    Quote Originally Posted by krchab99
    sad. they should be tried as adults.
    ...and strung up buy their scrotum(s). Haven't figured out what to do with the 16 year old girl yet.

    "Willie Brown, 26, who lives in the area of the alleged sexual assault..." In my opinon said it best! ""If all those brains couldn't get together and figure out that was a baby?" he said, adding he has a 3-year-old daughter. "I don't have no respect or no love for people who do that." He added: "Whatever they get, they got it coming."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    I am officially old now because I am saying "Man, kids these days have no clue."


    Your not old ! Because that will mean I am old and I am not even in my late 20's yet.

    I think those kids have promblems. serious promblems. This is why I dont allow my daughter to play whith just anybody! This really upsets me. People think I am wierd because i dont tell nobody where I live or my phone number. It is to many psycho out there! get this research says there is 1 soical path out of 6 americans. Thats a lot of social paths. Thats why if you are not family why do you need to know where I live. I let my daughter take kung fu. I tell dont take shit from anybody.
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    im going to get flack for this, but i usually do when people read my posts anyway. i think killing the people who "assaulted" her is a bit extreme. she wasn't raped or forced to do anything against her will. YES allowing an 11 year old to blow you is both disgusting and should have consequences but theres a big difference between her willingly doing that and being forced too. "peer pressure" is a lot different than violent coersion. That is to say the article mentions nothing of her being battered or threatened, just that she was encouraged to do said acts.

    so i think "hanging them by their scrotums" is a bit much considering it was just engaging in consentual sex acts with someone who by law isn't alowed to give consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayOz
    ...and strung up buy their scrotum(s).
    I honestly think that a rapist will not understand the pain of the victim unless it was done to them. yep they should be trial like adults Let see how they like being rape in the ass in the penn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    I am officially old now because I am saying "Man, kids these days have no clue."
    I agree. This is the kind of thing that could drive me to drink. I don't get these kids today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son
    im going to get flack for this, but i usually do when people read my posts anyway. i think killing the people who "assaulted" her is a bit extreme. she wasn't raped or forced to do anything against her will. YES allowing an 11 year old to blow you is both disgusting and should have consequences but theres a big difference between her willingly doing that and being forced too. "peer pressure" is a lot different than violent coersion. That is to say the article mentions nothing of her being battered or threatened, just that she was encouraged to do said acts.

    so i think "hanging them by their scrotums" is a bit much considering it was just engaging in consentual sex acts with someone who by law isn't alowed to give consent.

    She is an 11 year old girl dont you think she was scared, did you stop and think she was pressure. Did you skip the part she was told what sexual acts to perform. If she wanted to do it do you think somebody will have to tell her what to do! She is just a baby she is only in 4 th grade. So what excuse did the 40 years old man have. So you are saying that it is ok to have sex with a 40 year old man because someone told her to do this act with him! Wow man image what was going in her head, when she step in to that basement full of guys, and an adult there also! Than the crush ( the guy she is soooo crazy about) tell her to perform these acts on these guys. It was an adult there! How confusing is that for an 11 year old. WHich we dont know her background. Her mom could have never spoke to her about sex. My mom did not talk to me about sex until I was 14
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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son
    im going to get flack for this, but i usually do when people read my posts anyway. i think killing the people who "assaulted" her is a bit extreme.
    I am in no way advocating the death penalty here (and honestly, I truly CANNOT figure out who you're referring to here - none of the posts above mine are calling for death, just for trial as adults & one facetious stringing-up), not even for the adult involved, but - here's that flack you were waiting for, I guess.

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    she wasn't raped or forced to do anything against her will. YES allowing an 11 year old to blow you is both disgusting and should have consequences but theres a big difference between her willingly doing that and being forced too.
    So, a coercing an 11 year old to perform oral sex is a consensual act, eh? What exactly is your age of consent? 10? What if she were 8? Or 6? Or 4? Does it still require violence to qualify as a rape for you? Does the fact that at these ages she (or he, if it's a male victim) is a child figure into this at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son
    "peer pressure" is a lot different than violent coersion. That is to say the article mentions nothing of her being battered or threatened, just that she was encouraged to do said acts.
    I quote: "The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old". So this was also a consensual act? or what you're terming 'peer pressure'? This 40 year old is now her 'peer'? Interesting perspecting, there, dude.

    Many, many, many cases of child molestation do not involve physical 'force' (at least as I think you're defining it), and yet it legally is considered sexual assault. I guarantee you this - my mother is an award winning child abuse and child sexual abuse prosecutor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son
    im going to get flack for this, but i usually do when people read my posts anyway. i think killing the people who "assaulted" her is a bit extreme. she wasn't raped or forced to do anything against her will. YES allowing an 11 year old to blow you is both disgusting and should have consequences but theres a big difference between her willingly doing that and being forced too. "peer pressure" is a lot different than violent coersion. That is to say the article mentions nothing of her being battered or threatened, just that she was encouraged to do said acts.

    so i think "hanging them by their scrotums" is a bit much considering it was just engaging in consentual sex acts with someone who by law isn't alowed to give consent.
    Sick. this is whats wrong with socity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leilanicandy
    She is an 11 year old girl dont you think she was scared, did you stop and think she was pressure. Did you skip the part she was told what sexual acts to perform. If she wanted to do it do you think somebody will have to tell her what to do! She is just a baby she is only in 4 th grade. So what excuse did the 40 years old man have. So you are saying that it is ok to have sex with a 40 year old man because someone told her to do this act with him! Wow man image what was going in her head when she step in to that basement full of guys and they and an adult there also than crush ( the guy she is soooo crazy about) tell her to perform these acts on these guys. It was an adult there! How confusing is that for an 11 year old. WHich we dont know her background. Her mom could have never spoke to her about sex. My mom did not talk to me about sex until I was 14
    I dont disagree what they did was wrong, but i think killing a 15 year old for having sex with an 11 year old is extreme. Again, I only have the information from the article, and we dont have her whole statement, but no where does it say she was forced. And it claims she selected guys that she wanted to give oral to. I'm not saying it was right, I'm just saying she wasn't exactly raped. And note there's one 40 year old, the rest were minors too. what about her two friends that went with her?

    And you mentioned earlier how you monitor where your kids go and who they're with. That obviously doesn't happen with the parrents in this case. And just because your mom didn't talk to you about sex til you were 14 doesn't mean that its the way it should be. american's are way too uptight about sex and it creates problems like this! (same with alcohol, but thats another subject). Had her parrents cared to parrent more(both keep tabs on her and TEACH HER ABOUT LIFE;including sex) this could have been avoided. 11 is a little young, but you'd be suprised how many 11-14 year olds are sexually active these days.

    I'd like to hear the full story. why did she choose to go to the cops, what was her full statement. I can't stress enough, banging an 11 year old is wrong(who'd want to anyway?), but i feel its wrong to group statutory rape in with actual violent rape which i feel SHOULD be punished by death.

    If parrents took more responsibility for raising their kids instead of forcing the government to take the responsibility you wouldn't have these problems as often. We're surrounded by sex everyday, but its taboo. well guess what, kids aren't stupid, they're perceptive... so ignorance is only going to breed problems.

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    oh thats so sad, we can just imagine how this is going to affect the girl when she goes through puberty and as an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krchab99
    Sick. this is whats wrong with socity.
    I didn't fuck an 11 year old sweetie. I actually live by a strong moral code. HER PARRENTS and others like them are what is wrong with society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite
    I am in no way advocating the death penalty here, not even for the adult involved, but - here's that flack you were waiting for, I guess.



    So, a coercing an 11 year old to perform oral sex is a consensual act, eh? What exactly is your age of consent? 10? What if she were 8? Or 6? Or 4? Does it still require violence to qualify as a rape for you? Does the fact that she (or he) is a child figure into this at all?



    I quote: "The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old". So this was also a consensual act? or what you're terming 'peer pressure'? This 40 year old is now her 'peer'? Interesting perspecting, there, dude.

    Many, many, many cases of child molestation do not involve physical 'force' (at least as I think you're defining it), and yet it legally is considered sexual assault. I guarantee you this - my mother is an award winning child abuse and child sexual abuse prosecutor.
    I don't know what exactly happened there, i'd like to hear the full story. mollestation sure, i'm not opposed to criminal charges here, just from reading the article i dont think she was "attacked" or raped as everyone here is suggesting. I think age of consent depends on maturity. some 20 year olds aren't mature enough for sex(im certainly not ). I dont really care what the law is, laws are rarely ever right or relevant. you and i break the law everyday. I drove 5 mph over the speed limit today. should i be killed for it? no.

    Now i'm going to hear about comparing sexually "assaulting" a minor to speeding. I realize theres a huge difference, just like i think theres a huge difference between FORCING a girl to do this and her willingly doing it. Its sick, but not nearly as sick as grabbing her off the street and forcing her to do it. How old are all the guys in the basement?

    seriously, we need to hear the rest of the story

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    The whole thing is fucked up. After reading the article, I can't say anything. I'm a visual person. When I read, my brain automatically visualizes things. And now I want to throw up, wishing I hadn't read it. This little girl is gonna need years of psychotherapy....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son
    I dont disagree what they did was wrong, but i think killing a 15 year old for having sex with an 11 year old is extreme.
    I'm going to ask again. WHO said ANYTHING about executing the 15 year old? Seriously! If this is the alleged basis for your outraged statements, where the hell are you getting this? Proof, please.

    Unless (and I suppose this is possible) you're somehow confusing some basic legal terms . . . *ahem* Let's make sure you're clear on this: Trying someone as an adult (which is what multiple posters are indeed suggesting) in NO way, shape or form means that you are asking for the death penalty as a sentence. K?
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    [QUOTE=RoseWhite]I am in no way advocating the death penalty here, not even for the adult involved, but - here's that flack you were waiting for, I guess.

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    she wasn't raped or forced to do anything against her will. YES allowing an 11 year old to blow you is both disgusting and should have consequences but theres a big difference between her willingly doing that and being forced too. [/QUOTE

    So, a coercing an 11 year old to perform oral sex is a consensual act, eh? What exactly is your age of consent? 10? What if she were 8? Or 6? Or 4? Does it still require violence to qualify as a rape for you? Does the fact that she (or he) is a child figure into this at all?


    I quote: "The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old". So this was also a consensual act? or what you're terming 'peer pressure'? This 40 year old is now her 'peer'? Interesting perspecting, there, dude.

    Many, many, many cases of child molestation do not involve physical 'force' (at least as I think you're defining it), and yet it legally is considered sexual assault. I guarantee you this - my mother is an award winning child abuse and child sexual abuse prosecutor.
    Exactly, not to mention that now a days you can die from having sex with the STDs going around. They could have easily killed her (a slow and painful death from AIDS, Hep C, or cervical cancer.) Do you really think an 11 year old can consent to getting a terminal disease? Too many people don't consider it rape unless you are beaten bloodly. Not to mention the psychological ramifications of it are staggering. There were nearly 2 dozen people, older, and most of them male vs. one 11 year old girl. How does this constitute as peer pressure? The vast majority of 11 year olds (male and female) are not going to try to have a physical confrentation in this event, most grown women wouldn't either.

    11 year olds simply can not give sexual consent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite
    I'm going to ask again. WHO said ANYTHING about executing the 15 year old? Seriously! If this is the alleged basis for your outraged statements, where the hell are you getting this? Proof, please.

    Unless (and I suppose this is possible) you're somehow confusing some basic legal terms . . . *ahem* Let's make sure you're clear on this: Trying someone as an adult (which is what multiple posters are indeed suggesting) in NO way, shape or form means that you are asking for the death penalty as a sentence. K?

    i was responding to the wording in the title of the thread. she wasn't attacked.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayOz
    ...and strung up buy their scrotum(s). Haven't figured out what to do with the 16 year old girl yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by leilanicandy
    I honestly think that a rapist will not understand the pain of the victim unless it was done to them. yep they should be trial like adults Let see how they like being rape in the ass in the penn.
    Sorry, you're right, nobody said killing them. but hanging by a scrotum would probably kill you if done long enough. and being anally raped for a while is pretty brutal as well.

    So if one of the guys was a 12 or 13 year old should they be tried as an adult too? hell, 15 years is still a minor. wouldn't they have been assualted too then technically?

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    [QUOTE=Paisley]
    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite
    I am in no way advocating the death penalty here, not even for the adult involved, but - here's that flack you were waiting for, I guess.



    Exactly, not to mention that now a days you can die from having sex with the STDs going around. They could have easily killed her (a slow and painful death from AIDS, Hep C, or cervical cancer.) Do you really think an 11 year old can consent to getting a terminal disease? Too many people don't consider it rape unless you are beaten bloodly. Not to mention the psychological ramifications of it are staggering. There were nearly 2 dozen people, older, and most of them male vs. one 11 year old girl. How does this constitute as peer pressure? The vast majority of 11 year olds (male and female) are not going to try to have a physical confrentation in this event, most grown women wouldn't either.

    11 year olds simply can not give sexual consent.
    risk of STDs isn't any more now than it was in the previous centuries. HOWEVER this is still a huge risk(not to mention pregnancy!) which again is why parrents need to be more sexually responsible with their children in this country. newswave, most teens today are sexually active WELL before the age of consent. i suppose we should just lock up everyone between the ages of 12 to 21 because chances are pretty good that they've had sex with someone under 18(or whatever the age of consent may be in your state). OR we could just have parrents actually parrent for a radical change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son
    I dont disagree what they did was wrong, but i think killing a 15 year old for having sex with an 11 year old is extreme. Again, I only have the information from the article, and we dont have her whole statement, but no where does it say she was forced. And it claims she selected guys that she wanted to give oral to. I'm not saying it was right, I'm just saying she wasn't exactly raped. And note there's one 40 year old, the rest were minors too. what about her two friends that went with her?

    And you mentioned earlier how you monitor where your kids go and who they're with. That obviously doesn't happen with the parrents in this case. And just because your mom didn't talk to you about sex til you were 14 doesn't mean that its the way it should be. american's are way too uptight about sex and it creates problems like this! (same with alcohol, but thats another subject). Had her parrents cared to parrent more(both keep tabs on her and TEACH HER ABOUT LIFE;including sex) this could have been avoided. 11 is a little young, but you'd be suprised how many 11-14 year olds are sexually active these days.

    I'd like to hear the full story. why did she choose to go to the cops, what was her full statement. I can't stress enough, banging an 11 year old is wrong(who'd want to anyway?), but i feel its wrong to group statutory rape in with actual violent rape which i feel SHOULD be punished by death.

    If parrents took more responsibility for raising their kids instead of forcing the government to take the responsibility you wouldn't have these problems as often. We're surrounded by sex everyday, but its taboo. well guess what, kids aren't stupid, they're perceptive... so ignorance is only going to breed problems.

    First let me say this, because my mom did not tell me about sex until i was 14. Dose not mean I think it is they way things should be! I was using my case as an example. You dont know what the girls background is! thats my point ! SHe could have been scared to death. AN adult was there! Because a lot of 11-14 years you may know are sexually active that dose not me all are like that!

    To hear the whole story will give us more answer on what happen exactly! But they never said that they where going to punishes these children by death. Where are you getting this info! Since when in any state is lawfully ok to have sex with at 11 years old girl.

    When an adult is in the room and all these things are happening, you dont think that maybe this was confusing for an 11 years old. Gee what 15 years old will be so twisted that he will have sex with an 11 year old.
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    heh, to further outrage people, i wonder how much the dual income family structure (re: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73035 ) has contributed to the current societal state of pre-marital sex by minors? go ahead and flame me for that too.... I'm guessin they're possitively correlated. that means that I'm sure it would happen less if parrents had more time for their kids instead of their carreers. However, it wouldn't matter which parrent it was to be the caretaker in my opinion. which ever one is more suited to it(or whoever is less able to provide financially for the family) regardless of gender.

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    I got the distinct impression that this was not an upper-class area. If both her parents were working, I doubt they had "careers." More likely they had low-wage jobs and were working to keep a roof over her head. And if you want to reminisce about the good old days, in those days a 40-year-old adult who saw this thing happening would not usually have gone ahead and joined the baby-fucking; he would've put a stop to it and informed the parents of everyone involved. I know when I was a kid, I knew that all adults had authority over me, not just my parents. That guy in particular should go to a brutal prison for the rest of his natural life.

    And yes, this girl was ATTACKED. Twenty older males against one prepubescent child??

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    The 16-year-old girl and a 15-year-old boy have been charged in juvenile court in the attack, which took place Monday in a house on the city's north side. A 40-year-old man who also had sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said.

    I believe this is what the article says.

    So I wonder who else had sex with the girl. Since the 40 year old ALSO had sex with her.

    I still stand by my word when it comes to rapist. which is

    " A rapist will not understand what the victim went threw until it is done to them"!


    Oh sanderson if a lot kids are sexually active and they know what doing, dose that make them adults. Dose that mean what they are doing is right!

    Tell me why are you defending these boys what maked them right for what they did! Do you even know what gose on in the head of a child when confronted with this situatuion,
    IF you reread the article. You will see that the gang of guys was in basement before she got there and there is nothing saying that these boys where 11-15. so where are you getting your info from
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    Default Re: 11 year girl attacked.

    it said they were boys, which means not men. so they're minors too. I'm just curious what their ages are. and if she fealt pressured to do it, woudln't some of the guys who were their maybe fealt pressured to sleep with her? if they don't would they be persecuted by the gang? so could not some of the guys be victems too? theres no excuse for the 40 year old. lets get that right out there. i'm just holding back judgement on all the others.

    my point about a lot of sexually active kids was to prove that parrents aren't doing their job and that relying on the government to do uphold responsibility doesn't work. all they do is police after the fact. parrents have the power to educate and prevent this from happening.

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