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    A few questions, and I can't find answers!

    Ok, so I have decided to try exotic dancing, can't remember what put the idea into my head, but it's there and it's not going away! I tried Belly-Dancing for a while, just classes, and I was very good at it; I know it's a totally different kind of dance, but it's still sexy dancing, and I love to dance sexily.
    I started to do a bit of research, and my boyfriend suggested Spearmint Rhino, I checked it out and you don’t need any experience as they will train you. I really have my heart set on this place, it seems very safe and the club looks very nice. I will probably still look for work in other places if I don’t get a job there, but I will be disappointed. I applied and a few days ago they phoned me and said I could go along and audition, I said I wanted to do ‘Rhino Academy’ first, and my first lessons is in 9 days - argh! Now you understand where I’m coming from here are my questions -

    I hear they want very ‘perfect’ girls at SMR, and I know I’m very attractive, a lot more so than some of the girls on their UK website, but my complexion is not always perfect. I do get acne, not badly anymore, which I can practically totally disguise with ordinary make-up; so I’m hoping thicker stage-type make-up will fix it, if and when I work. I’m worried that my skin will be my downfall at my audition. What do you think? Be harsh please.

    Can I buy ordinary high-heels, or do I need special ‘dancing shoes’? I’m adept at walking in heels, but I’m sure dancing ‘round a pole is going to be a bit different.

    What exactly goes on in a lap dance? Now, I don’t mind dancing for a guy but I really don’t want my chest right in his face - that’s my area of personal space, I can’t even let my boyfriend do it, I hate it. A few inches away is fine, but not really close between my boobs. So if I’m actually sitting on his lap, I don’t think I’d like it.

    How many days a week do you work? I’d want to do 4-5 days, is that too much? I don’t know what they let you work. I’m aiming for £50,000 British Pounds in a year, too - that works out at about £200-£250 a night (what I’d actually take home) do you think this is realistic? I’ve tried to be!

    :Edit: - Also what do you think of the name Ember? I think Naomi has too many syllables in noisy club.]

    :Edit: - Also, again, can you catch anything for pole dancing? I mean how hygienic is it? If loads of different girls are rubbing there bits on the same pole (do they do that?!) , surely that could be bad? I don't know!

    Thank you so much for any help - I just need to know, especially about my skin, it's starting to worry me. I'm very well spoken too, very intelligent and very social - could they be my saving graces? Thanks again, apologies for the longness of this post.
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    Default Re: A few questions, and I can't find answers!

    First off, please don't take this the wrong way, but "can't find answers"? Many of your questions have been addressed here in previous threads, so please feel free to do a search or browse around for some additional feedback that you're likely to find useful.

    Okay, now to some feedback...

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    I started to do a bit of research, and my boyfriend suggested Spearmint Rhino, I checked it out and you don’t need any experience as they will train you. ... I said I wanted to do ‘Rhino Academy’ first, and my first lessons is in 9 days
    Well, that's cool that they are willing to train you. Really cool in fact. Majority of places don't have this, so certainly take advantage. Btw - Do they charge you for the training?

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    ... but my complexion is not always perfect. I do get acne, not badly anymore, which I can practically totally disguise with ordinary make-up; so I’m hoping thicker stage-type make-up will fix it, if and when I work. I’m worried that my skin will be my downfall at my audition. What do you think? Be harsh please.
    Nah. My guess is the audition would be held under the typical lighting of the normal club setting. Club lighting is usually very favorable, an with proper makeup you should be fine.

    Check out the BODY BUSINESS section for more feedback on how to care for your skin.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    Can I buy ordinary high-heels, or do I need special ‘dancing shoes’? I’m adept at walking in heels, but I’m sure dancing ‘round a pole is going to be a bit different.
    I think you can pretty much wear whatever you're comfortable wearing, as long as they're not flats. Personally, if I saw a girl walking around in pumps I'd almost immediately assume she was a "newbie", but that's just me. There are many girls on here who like to wear pumps, and they feel it helps them stand out more. Actually, no one is really sure why platform heals became the standard for dancer wear. Just to be sure I'd check with the club. SPR is a big chain, so they may have a corporate policy on what footwear they will allow.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    What exactly goes on in a lap dance? Now, I don’t mind dancing for a guy but I really don’t want my chest right in his face - that’s my area of personal space, I can’t even let my boyfriend do it, I hate it. A few inches away is fine, but not really close between my boobs. So if I’m actually sitting on his lap, I don’t think I’d like it.
    Not familiar with the rules in the UK. Things you will need to be aware of are what the local rules are, and then what the club rules are. These are pretty much what will determine the kinds of dances you'll see in the club, and will be expected to give. Now in addition to that, I'd say you are also free to give the kind of dance you feel comfortable with. If you can come up with a way to make your dances work without doing things you're not comfortable with, then great. However, if you do work in an area and in a club that offers contact dances, you should expect some customers to be disapointed if you're not offering what is considered to be the "norm". If this is the case, than I'd be honest with the customers, and let them know what you're rules are up front. For example, I once met a dancer and wanted to do a champagne room with her. Now the club she worked at had a topless only section and an all-nude section. However, the policy was that the champagne rooms included all-nude dances. She told me up front that she would give me a great dance, but that she was not comfortable dancing all nude. I happen to be indifferent when it comes to topless vs. all nude, so we went off and had a great time. It was certainly appreciated that she told me about her personal policy up front.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    How many days a week do you work? I’d want to do 4-5 days, is that too much? I don’t know what they let you work. I’m aiming for £50,000 British Pounds in a year, too - that works out at about £200-£250 a night (what I’d actually take home) do you think this is realistic? I’ve tried to be!
    The number of nights a dancer works will vary greatly. Some work 2-3 shifts per week, others work many more. Some clubs are flexible with their scheduling, others require a minimum number and sometimes even go so far as to dictate the types of shifts. For example lots of dancers want the $$ shifts of Fri & Sat night. Well some clubs may require a min of 3 shifts in a week, and require at least one day shift to help guarantee they have dancers for the slower times too. Check with SPR on their shift policy.

    As far as earning potential that's going to be hard for anyone here to guage. Know one knows how good or bad of a sales person you'll be. You can certainly place yourself in a good situation and do things to increase your earning potential, but ultimately what you earn will be up to you. I've seen two dancers working the same shift at the same club have drastically different results. It happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    :Edit: - Also what do you think of the name Ember? I think Naomi has too many syllables in noisy club.]
    Well I won't say yay or nay in terms of the name. Personally, I can't really tell enough from your avatar to make a call on if I think "Ember" is a fit for you. One thing to keep in mind is some clubs have a policy of not allowing multiple dancers to have the same name. Have a few names ready just in case. Check with the club if they have a policy and/or if the name you want is available.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    :Edit: - Also, again, can you catch anything for pole dancing? I mean how hygienic is it? If loads of different girls are rubbing there bits on the same pole (do they do that?!) , surely that could be bad? I don't know!
    I think there are threads on this. I'll try to post a link shortly. Perhaps someone can give better feedback. Keep in mind some clubs wipe down their stage poles regularly with alcohol, others don't. If it's an all nude club and lots of girls use the poles, well, you can decide for yourself.
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    Thank you very much for taking the time to reply, it has all been very helpful. I'm a bit lost on the forum, I can't seem to find what I want to know, but I'm sure I'll master it in time. I really meant I can't find answers anywhere else on the web, this seems to be the only place, and it's brilliant!
    Sorry about the little avatar, I'm at my boyfriend's and he doesn't have any other pictures of me on his computer (mine's broken) hopefully I'll get some pictures up soon so you can all see for yourselves. Umm...I'll try explain what I look like, but it's difficult: I have very dark long hair (natural) but it is auburn, but you can only really see that in the light, so I dunno if it's a good choice. I'm 5'8", Olive skin, Long legs, little waist/curvy hips, 34D-32DD chest, stricking eyes (they're very unusual), Warm smile, Good check bones but still a 'soft' face, my nose has a tiny little bumb in it, Italian blood, whacha gonna do!

    I'm a social butterfly in most situations, especially when I know I'm looking polished, so I feel that I could do better than average, at least with a little time and practice. I can definitely hold a convesation too, so, I guess what I was really asking about the money is, is it possible? If I'm not too shockingly bad, that is, lol.
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    Lots of Love, Naomi xXx

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    You're quite welcome. Best of luck, and welcome to SW.
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    Default Re: A few questions, and I can't find answers!

    You aim to earn £50,000 (about $95,000 USD) in your first year? Is the value of the pound that much more than the dollar?

    Have you read this:

    http://www.mypole.co.uk/articles.htm

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    Verf !!!!! All club offer some type of training or they at least say they do . I am sure they did not mean literal "training" , there is no such thing in my opinion anyways .


    As for the shoes you CANNOT just wear anything every club has strict rules on what you can and can not wear . You should call ahead and ask . Although they may not care what you wear during an audition you do want to look as though you have a clue .

    Yes bad skin can hurt an audtion . People are very cruel about skin as I can personally relate too . Try a few mirocdermabrasion treatments and lots of water , vitamins , fresh air , clean pillow cases etc etc . The less make up you have to wear the better .

    I don't know about english money but what Scout said about it equaling to 95,000 US is ALOT of money for a dancer to make a year . You can not count on this type of money , you never know when you are going to have a good night or a bad one . That is why it so important for dancers to S A V E their money !! I would think that a girl who could hussle her butt off and worked reguarly could hope to make a little more than half that . Does this club pay you to work or do you just take home tips ?? Also I know bigger clubs like SMR have large tip outs so you might want to check that out also .

    Finally as far as the private dances go it completely depends on what the local laws are ?!! If they allow contact and in which way or even what they club allows . Just because the town allows or does not allow something doesn't always mean thats what they club will allow . These are things you need to go to the club and find out for yourself .

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    Can I buy ordinary high-heels, or do I need special ‘dancing shoes’? I’m adept at walking in heels, but I’m sure dancing ‘round a pole is going to be a bit different.
    I haven't yet heard of any place where girls wear ordinary high heels. I am almost certain that they are mostly over 5 inches in height. In fact, your club probably has a minimum height. Bostondancer is right, you might be able to get away with normal heels in an audition, but there's no way you could use them on the job.

    What exactly goes on in a lap dance? Now, I don’t mind dancing for a guy but I really don’t want my chest right in his face - that’s my area of personal space, I can’t even let my boyfriend do it, I hate it. A few inches away is fine, but not really close between my boobs. So if I’m actually sitting on his lap, I don’t think I’d like it.
    Important- YOU decide how far you want to take a lap dance. YOU set your own boundaries.

    How many days a week do you work? I’d want to do 4-5 days, is that too much? I don’t know what they let you work. I’m aiming for £50,000 British Pounds in a year, too - that works out at about £200-£250 a night (what I’d actually take home) do you think this is realistic? I’ve tried to be!
    Do as many you want to and can without getting overly exhausted. And from what I've heard 200-250 a night can happen, but is not the norm.

    :Edit: - Also what do you think of the name Ember? I think Naomi has too many syllables in noisy club.]
    I personally like both.

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    Amber would be easier for people to hear and understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scout
    You aim to earn £50,000 (about $95,000 USD) in your first year? Is the value of the pound that much more than the dollar?

    Have you read this:

    http://www.mypole.co.uk/articles.htm

    ?
    Sandwiches in England cost about 12 pounds. She may get more money but she's spending a lot more on rent, food, etc. But the UK is a fuckign GREAT place to start saving money bcause it's 2x more than America and 3x more than Australia. So each pound you save...woohoo! It's VERY VERY plausable to make 50k pounds in the UK which totals 95kUSD. The problem is if you go there for vacation expect a 200 pound a night hotel... which is, what, $390USD a night?

    Yeah.


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    I'm fairly new to dancing too. I'm from Birmingham in the UK and the best advice i can give is to visit a few clubs. Don't know what the Rhino by you is like but the one here is not that 'clean'. Many of the girls there go a little too far for their money for me!! If you chat to the girls in the clubs (take a man with you, most clubs require this) they are usually quite helpful although you do have to take some of what they say with a pinch of salt. I think you earning hopes are way too high. Don't want to put you off but there has been a recent increase in the amount of girls wanting to dance so the competition is stronger.

    I prefer to work in a club with poles. I decided to have lessons before I started and am really glad I did. Once you have the confidence you can dance sexy with out the close contact of lap dancing. Saying that though it doesn't take a lot to lap dance. You just have to remember that on the whole men are fairly stupid and easily pleased. You don't get many regulars so a lot of the time they are as nervous as you are!!

    I still have a day job and work just 2 nights a week. As christmas gets closer I will do a few more shifts. Day shifts are great for practice as the clubs are usually quiet. Just have confidence, don't expect too much at the start and you'll be fine!!

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    About the training, I am paying for it yes. It's called the Rhino Academy. It's costing £120 for three two-hour lessons, held on two Saturdays and a Sunday. My first is next Saturday. It's held inside the club, during the day - they don't open 'til 6pm. It's a proper course, you can go on it even if you never intend to dance professionally. I can then do a more advanced one if I want to, or if I'm really bad - take it again I guess, just until I'm ready to audition!

    The money side, I'll just have to wait and see I suppose. It's been very hard to find a sensible estimate for how much money I'll earn, I read in an artical I read it said that dancers usually earn between £100-£400 a night (this was the lowest amount I could find!) - I took the average of that as £250 - made it smaller still to £200
    £200 x 5 days a week = £1000 x 52 weeks a year = £52,000 - Is it not therefore possible? The SMR club, I want to work in, is the bussiest in the world supposedly, that's gotta help! (Dances last a song and cost £20)
    Thanks again.
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    Default Re: A few questions, and I can't find answers!

    Here, are some posts about rocking pumps vs. platforms...


    Stripper Shoes
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?p=568593

    Guys, do outfits matter?
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?p=344124
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    possible i guess but you have to allow for quiet nights, slow times of the year etc. i'm not in any way commenting on whether you are capable of earning that much, i would just hate you do get down if you don't hit the big time straight away!! it can be slow to start. with christmas coming up its a good time to get going, just don't give up if you don't make what you expect. i am enjoying it all still but i had high earning hopes. when i didn't meet them to start with it knocked my confidence quite a bit. i'm doing ok now though.
    5 nights a week aswell, thats a lot. mind you i'm a bit of a doormouse so sleep becomes more of a priority to me than work!! i would fall alseep on the pole if i tried to work those kinds of hours!

    good luck! i hope it lives up to your expectations and that most of all you enjoy yourself.

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    Thank you very much! I'm hoping it'll all go well too. With my first look and lesson at the club on Saturday, it's all seeming a bit sureal. I can't actually believe this is happening! Woohoo, crazy exciting.
    I also just want to ask another quick question, bit odd, someone I meet once the other day, in relation to this stripping, has apparently said I had breasts like 'fried eggs' - meaning that they were small - is 34D-32DD small? Strange boy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiSweetPea
    ... someone I meet once the other day, ... has apparently said I had breasts like 'fried eggs' - meaning that they were small - is 34D-32DD small? Strange boy...
    Customers have all different ranges of taste. It's like Goldie Locks and the three bears ... some like small, some like medium, some like voluptuous ... different guys have different opinions about what's "just right". Some customers don't care about size as long as they are natural ... while still others love fake breasts.

    Personally one of my favorite dancers is an A-cup, she's all natural, and I happen to think she's perfectly beautiful. Has she been turned down by guys who prefer a little more? Sure, but she doesn't let it bother her. She knows what her attributes are and she works the guys that she appeals to.

    Btw - 34D-32DD is small?
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    Could I ask you WHICH Spearmint are you going to work at ?

    It can be VERY hard to make good money at Spearmint`s chain as they tend to have too many girls on the floor and the one I worked in one night (!) was quite "lenient" with rules as well which I didn`t like.

    I wish you good luck with the training although I think the best way how to get into dancing is go straight into the water... And of course, SW helps a lot

    I`m one of the best dancers and I usually do very good compared to most of the girls in my club, but I know many of them would go home sometimes with nothing or very little money (50 £) after they`ve paid everybody,I have a shitty nights as well. I doubt you`ll be able to work 5 nights per wk for the whole year, it can be very exhausting and tiring and demanding both mentally and physically.


    All over the London, the competition is tough, there are so many beautiful girls from all over the world and unfortunately some of them would do almost anything to get their money (I`m talking about breaking the rules now).

    Mainly,you need to be a good sales person to make a good living... That`s where you should focus your energy on. Sale. And another.. And another...

    Good luck and keep us informed how it goes,

    xxx

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