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    I'm curious how other folks set nightly goals for themselves. Do you set an ammount that's a little higher than average so you have something to strive for? Lower than average so you won't be disappointed if you have a bad night? Something in between?

    I've just started setting serious goals for myself. Lately, since getting back from vacation in mid-August, my nights have been sucking -- about half or even a third of what I was making a few months ago. The past few nights I've set myself a goal of making what I used to make on an average night. I repeat that ammount to myself like a mantra, every time I get turned down for a dance, or hear another dancer bitching about how slow it is, or anything else that starts to discourage me. Could be coincidence, but I have made that average every night since I started doing this.

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    I worked out what my average shift earning was (over the 5 years Ive been stripping) and budget based on that amount. If the week starts off slow, I will lower my week goal, and if I have an excellent few shifts, I raise my week goal.

    Some weeks I AM under goal, but I usually get a fantastic week at least once a month, which evens things out.

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    I always have a minimum goal for a night(started years ago and has transferred to several differant clubs with me..I cant get it out of my head!). So if I hit that..I'm happy. If I go over it..I'm ecstatic. If I go under...I admit I'm disappointed.
    But at least it gives me something to shoot for.
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    I have been setting a goal of $500 a shift. I start my shift right on time (1pm in the afternoon) and tell myself I am not leaving the club until I earn it,even if I have to be there for another shift. Only once in the last two weeks have I stayed late,and it was only for 45 minutes. I used to show up to work 1 or 2 hrs late,leave early and be choosy about who I talked to. Now,I am making SO much more than I used to simply because I set a goal and have the determination to make it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronfl
    I always have a minimum goal for a night(started years ago and has transferred to several differant clubs with me..I cant get it out of my head!). So if I hit that..I'm happy. If I go over it..I'm ecstatic. If I go under...I admit I'm disappointed.
    But at least it gives me something to shoot for.
    I do the same thing. My goal is the mimimum I need to make to be happy. I go over most of the time and have only gone under a handful of times. If I didnt budget right for my bills and need a little more I work and extra day instead of forcing myself in one day. I am bad at my job when I feel like I have to get that money.

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    I set a goal, but it's fluid. It changes based on certain thing, but almost never down!

    I do it like this: I want to make x dollars on this stage set, I want to do x amount of dances before my next set/the feature, I want to do x amount of rooms.

    I always make it a bit of a reach, so I have to try hard. So if I know there are 9 songs before I have to go on stage, I might say, I want to do 6 songs before stage. this way I'm always working hard, and stay dancing, thus popular.

    In think the key to a successful goal is to make it a streach, and to be dedicated to achieving it.

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    i set a minimum amount to make per night during my shift. If I make the minimum but feel I can make a lot more, then I stay later. If I feel the money isnt there for me that night then I'l go home and do something productive there, like clean or do homework or take care of my pets, that way I know I at least am not wasting the time I might have been able to make an extra 50 dollars....

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    After fees and tipout, I always liked to net about $100 an hour minimum. I broke it down to the hour because sometimes I worked 4-5 hours, sometimes 8 hours +. I wanted to see what my efforts broke down to time-wise. If I worked a dayshift, esp when they are 2-4-1 specials, I would lower it to $80 an hour. Sooo......I could tell the difference if I made $600 in 3 hours or 8 hours. Point is, there is only so much you can control. You can't control the # of custs in the club. Some clubs have VIP rooms that charge by time, etc. Some clubs are decent for stage tips, most I've worked in aren't at all. So if I could reasonable make at least that amount for the time I put in, I was happy.

    Some may not agree with this, but I think setting very specific sum dollar amount goals and lead to dissapointment. I believed in working my ass off if I was there. I could rest and count my $$$ afterwards.

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    Picture a clear plastic booth with money flying around inside, the kind you see on a gameshow. You step inside and grab as many bills as you can before your time is up. This is how I see work -- using every moment to collect whatever I can. I count when I'm done, at the end of my shift.

    I have no shift goals. I have realistic weekly goals and I will work every day up to 5 days until I get it. Typically, I reach my goal by shift #2 or #3.

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    I think that setting a goal amount to make every day/night is not always the best thing to do.

    As Katrine said, conditions in the club(s) vary daily. The amount of customers, the amount of dancers, the type of clientele. Each club has different variables too. Some clubs I am more likely to earn over a certain amount than others. I have a sheet that I track my earnings after tip outs on per club per night/week/month. Each club has a different average earnings. That is not to say that I won't earn what I earn at my #1 club at my #2 club, but sometimes my #1 club is slower than normal or the money spending customers don't come in.

    It is better to just focus on using the Dancer Wealth and other sales techniques you know CONSISTENTLY with all the customerss in the club. Try to get as many dances as possible from every guy you sell, and don't profile customers. Of course approach openly interested guys before the others, but still approach everyone in the club with the proper hustle and sales approach. By doing this consistently, a dancer will make the best she can under the circumstances she faces every time she works.

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    My nightly goal was to make $400. Before I started dancing, the guy who "trained" me told me that I can make $2000 a week, so I figured $400 a night, 5 nights. So when I worked i would always hope for $400, and if I made more I was very happy, but if I made less, I thought it was a shitty night, even if I made $380.

    So I guess, your first instinct is what your goal should be.

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    I don't have a goal. Then I'm always happy. As long as I save 30% of everything I make, I'm pretty good. Don't want to be depressed.


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    I always set a fairly high goal for myself, but it depends on the week-day (this is when I am home). At home I will set a daily goal and a weekly goal. This is good because if one day I don't make my goal I tell myself I have the next day to make it up to myself.

    When I am travelling, I always have a month goal or however long I am travelling. There, I look at how much I am making per week, and then at the end of the month.

    I admit to being very dissapointed if I don't make my goal, but on the other hand I am easy on myself when no one else has made money that night because it was horrible. If I'm 20 or 30 short, I don't worry about it.

    I agree that you need to set realistic goals. Too high you get depressed every night, and too low, you are underutilizing your potential. I think once you've been dancing for awhile you tend to know what is realistic and what is not.

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    I have a weekly goal which, for me , is neither easily attainable nor it an amount I can't reach. I am not a fan of setting a nightly goal because I feel it's too much pressure and can actually screw my "hustle" up bc I am too worried ab "the" number.

    Working my 3 weeknights per week usually sets me at my goal (or above it!) and if not, I pick up a Friday or Saturday night (the higher quantity/less quality nights at my club) and just dance my ass off to make up the difference.

    Also, one last thing. If I don't meet my goal one week for some reason (it happens to all of us!) then I try the next week to "make up for it". Just like many others on here have stated, it all balances out at the end of the month.

    Good luck goal setting!

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    Thanks for all the replies. I completely understand the people who feel setting goals leads to disappointment. I used to avoid setting goals for that reason -- if I didn't make it, I would really beat myself up, and end up doing even worse the next night. So for a long time I either didn't have a goal or had a minimum ammount in my mind that I knew I could make easily.

    But last week, it really seemed that setting goals helped to pull me out of a slump. It's been SO slow for the past month, and I'd been making such terrible money, I'd gotten in the habit of moping the club all night around expecting things to suck. The goal that I set for myself was a comfortable average of what I used to make, but two or three times as much as I had been making. I think it makes a difference how you think of your goal -- I didn't brood about it or get anxious this time. Instead, every time I started to get anxious about how the night was going to go, I'd just think about my goal instead and calm down. That motivated me to approach EVERYBODY, use all my best techniques, and keep my energy up through the entire shift. And it worked like a freaking charm. For the four days I worked last week, I made at least my minimum every day, and twice made a whole lot more. Money like this would have seemed impossible a few weeks ago.

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    I set goals, but it is diferrent each night. I don't even think about it unitl halfway through my shift. I count my money so far, and depending on that and how the club is looking, I tell myself, I can make XXX amount of money before I leave, and I always do!
    I figure if I wait until I am used to the crowd-type that night, I can set more realistic goals.
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    Lillith made a great point. There is only so much you can control as far as earnings, but you CAN control your savings. Just a figure from my financial files. The clients I work with who are on their way to reaching their PERSONAL goals in life (ie, buying a home, paying for education, reaching retirement, etc) save about 20% of their monthly earnings. THAT would be a great goal no matter what!

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    I set goals...daily and weekly. I set them relatively high, because for some creepy-ass reason, I almost always make within $50 of my goal (either way). I don't ever count my money until the end of the night, so I guess my subconscious is just good at math, lol.

    I find setting goals helps to motivate me. I will alter my goals as necessary, so as no to make it impossible, but still challenging. I love the feeling of accomplishment when I reach a $$ goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver
    I set goals...daily and weekly. I set them relatively high, because for some creepy-ass reason, I almost always make within $50 of my goal (either way). I don't ever count my money until the end of the night, so I guess my subconscious is just good at math, lol.

    I find setting goals helps to motivate me. I will alter my goals as necessary, so as no to make it impossible, but still challenging. I love the feeling of accomplishment when I reach a $$ goal.
    That pretty much said it. I also hit pretty close, sometimes right on it, without counting durring my night. I like knowing I have control over what I earn, and there is no limit, but I understand if it's a terrible night. I don't beat myself up over not making a goal, but it helps to motivate me to keep going.

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    I set a goal by the week, but go in there for 5 days even if the goal has been met by day 3 0r 4. I also save a high percentage for 3 weeks of the month, like 65 to 70 percent of total weekly earnings. On the fourth week I pay rent and save most of what is left after buying necessary things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxoGracexoxo
    That motivated me to approach EVERYBODY, use all my best techniques, and keep my energy up through the entire shift. And it worked like a freaking charm.
    Thats what I mean, and what Bridgette is constantly harping on. We are salespeople.

    Picture a strip club floor like the checkstand at a store. If you're a cashier,whoever is in your chekstand you have to ring up, right?

    In the strip club whomever is in the club should be approached by you as well, correct?

    How is a dancer going to make money if they aren't talking to and trying to close EVERYONE in the club? Unless another dancer is sitting with a customer, or a guy is a regular of a particular girl as a known fact, everyone should be approached in the club, some small talk made, and then the dance sales close made. Either you sell them or you don't. Keep moving and talking, and since selling is a numbers game, if a dancer understands this she will do well in the end.

    See, when you work the floor properly and consistently, you get higher results. Some days making $150 is good, and others $800 is good. The net dollar amount is based opn who walks in the door, how hard you work the floor, and how much money the crowd is willing to and able to spend on dances.

    I'm glad your money improved.

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    When I used to dance full time, I set weekly goals. As Wed, Fri and sun were my definate shifts, I started my week fri. If the end of sun rolled around and I was doing well then that was that. If not, I'd work mon and/or tues to help....

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    I'm a big believer in goals. I always make more when I have a goal in mind. For me I'm more about trying to improve my average earnings. I kind of work back from what I want my annual salary to be and then what it will take to get it, monthly, weekly, daily and hourly. I think it helps immensely to have goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    After fees and tipout, I always liked to net about $100 an hour minimum. I broke it down to the hour because sometimes I worked 4-5 hours, sometimes 8 hours +. I wanted to see what my efforts broke down to time-wise.
    Actually, I think this is probably the best system. It's a method many people call "chunking it down" and is actually much more efficient from a priority management standpoint. When targeting larger scale projects, when you chunk down the benchmarks it makes the larger perspective easier to manage. In other words, if you are on a weight-loss program, don't think about losing 50 pounds in a year, think about 1 pound a week. Once you focus on the 1 pound a week, usually you'll wind up losing 60 pounds in the year instead of only 50. Money works the same way. Kat has the right idea. Don't think about making $500 in a night, think about how much does that equate to in an hour of your shift. If you are working for 5 hours, that's $100 an hour. That's an average of $25 every 15 minutes. This means you should focus on selling a MINIMUM of 1 dance every 15 minutes. Once you focus on the 15 minutes and not the 5 hours, you'll get better results!

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    I like that DW. Sure is a lot easier to push yourself for one dance every 15 min than think about the 25 for the night! Or thirty or higher for pay out!

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