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    This is awesome!

    I read the original Dune as a kid, and i was a lil' too young to get it. Think i understood maybe every other word or something. Read it a few years later and got it more the second time around. Well i made it through Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, Chapterhouse Dune... and then the unthinkable happened. I went to the bookstore looking for the seventh book and... ACK!!! There was no seventh book! Went and asked when it might be out and was told that Frank Herbert had DIED before he could finish the story. And Chapterhouse Dune ends on a TOTAL FUCKING CLIFFHANGER!!!!

    For ages my rule for books has been NEVER another incomplete series. Of course i break that rule all the time, but no-one said i had to be logically consistant.

    Well, praise Bhudallah, the two guys writing the new Dune novels (Brian Herbert, Frank's son, and Kevin J. Anderson) found like 1500 pages of Frank Herbert's notes for Dune 7 and have split it into two books. The first of which "Hunters of Dune" is on the stands as we speak, and the second "Sandworms of Dune" is due out next august.

    It's not Frank Herbert, but i'll take what i can get. Something i never thought i'd see. The end to the Dune series.

    Madcap is a happy, happy, Madcap.

    If anyone likes these books, i urge you to give the stuff by B. Herbert and Anderson a try. Good books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    This is awesome!

    I read the original Dune as a kid, and i was a lil' too young to get it. Think i understood maybe every other word or something. Read it a few years later and got it more the second time around. Well i made it through Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, Chapterhouse Dune... and then the unthinkable happened. I went to the bookstore looking for the seventh book and... ACK!!! There was no seventh book! Went and asked when it might be out and was told that Frank Herbert had DIED before he could finish the story. And Chapterhouse Dune ends on a TOTAL FUCKING CLIFFHANGER!!!!

    For ages my rule for books has been NEVER another incomplete series. Of course i break that rule all the time, but no-one said i had to be logically consistant.

    Well, praise Bhudallah, the two guys writing the new Dune novels (Brian Herbert, Frank's son, and Kevin J. Anderson) found like 1500 pages of Frank Herbert's notes for Dune 7 and have split it into two books. The first of which "Hunters of Dune" is on the stands as we speak, and the second "Sandworms of Dune" is due out next august.

    It's not Frank Herbert, but i'll take what i can get. Something i never thought i'd see. The end to the Dune series.

    Madcap is a happy, happy, Madcap.

    If anyone likes these books, i urge you to give the stuff by B. Herbert and Anderson a try. Good books.
    Closure for Madcap. Dr. Phil would be proud.

    I read a few of the Dune books. Good stuff, though I just never felt compelled to finish them off.

    Now John Norman's "Gor" books, on the other hand, I ate up., as well as Robert Adams' "Horseclans" series.

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    Hey, Horseclans be good books! Can't argue with you there! Never read Gor though, the 80's b movie turned me off to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    Hey, Horseclans be good books! Can't argue with you there! Never read Gor though, the 80's b movie turned me off to it.
    Movie? I doubt its the same thing. The Gor series is something that couldnt make it to the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John
    Movie? I doubt its the same thing. The Gor series is something that couldnt make it to the movies.



    Dead serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    Well, lo and behold. Thats a new one on me. Never knew of its existance.

    I would suspect that the movie couldnt hold a candle to the books.

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    Hey, it's got Jack Palance in it... Then again he was in Hawk the Slayer as well... Maybe he had bills to pay or something...

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    Loved Dune. It's in my top 10.

    Made it through Messiah and Children, but not enthusiastically. I'm glad to hear there's closure for the fans who stuck with it.

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    Dune is probably one of my favorite books of all time. (Only Pierres Anthony's Macroscope, as well as anything by Asimov and Heinlein can compare.) I was fascinated all the way from the first Dune to Chapterhouse. I wanted to know what happened to Duncan and Murbella on the No-Ship as much as anyone else.

    I found out about Dune 7 back in 2002 (I was a senior in high school and had just finished Chapterhouse), I was ecstatic that Frank Herbert's son and Anderson had supposedly found notes for the conclusion.

    But then the house books came out and I was extremely dubious of the writing abilities of the authors. I cut them some slack though and thought that they were just "warming up", boy was I wrong.

    I did like the Legends of Dune series better. It was interesting to see these epics take place even if they did deviate from Frank Herbert's "Encyclopedia of Dune" (yes, I have read it, I am a sci-fi freak ya know?) I even went to a book signing by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson at a local Borders for the Butlerian Jihad. I even signed up to their mailing list because I wanted all the updates about when it would be completed so I could be the first to purchase it. I really, REALLY wanted to like Dune 7.

    I wasn't just disappointed, I was APPALLED like I have never been before. The writing style is that of a Junior High school level. The characters, who were once some of the most riveting and brilliant characters of science fiction, are now 1-dimensional, crude, caricatures of their formal selves. Half of the book was a recap of the previous 6. And BH and KJA seemed to have really gotten a kick out of mentioning their characters from the prequels. I don't want to give away any spoilers for those who havn't read Hunters, but I will say that I don't beleive BH and KJA's rendition of Marty and Daniel for a second.

    I will not be reading the second part of Dune 7 (and why have it in 2 books anyway? It's another money making ploy on the part of BH and KJA.) I feel cheated and duped out of my money for purchasing any of their books. Yeah, I knew that they couldn't compare to Frank, but I didn't expect them to botch a wet dream. Dune, in my mind, will always be the original 6 books.

    It does suck that Frank Herbert died before finishing it. And I, as much as anyone, wishes that we could make a ghola out of him to continue writing, but because he is gone, I feel like we are left to our own imaginations about what happened. Just like I am angry over the cancelation of Firefly only after one season, but I would feel even worse if someone other than Joss Whedon would pick up the series and FUBAR it. Dune 7 is to BH and KJA as Firefly would be to the director of the O.C.

    Yes, I am a nerd, and yes, I am a little too overly emotionally involved in this. I shall have a drink and eat chocolate now and cry.
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    I love Dune... but for me it always ends with Chapterhouse. I did read some of the prequels, but they are not Frank Herbert's story.

    For me, what I remember at the end of Chapterhouse was hope. Don't know it was always my favorite. Guess I'll have to do some rereading when the stuff finally gets here.

    God Emperor of Dune was the only hard one for me to get thorough. I also always used to seem to get stuck in Dune, when young Paul and his mother Jessica are fleeing the harkonnens and Paul starts to awaken. Don't know why.
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    ^^Agree with the above.

    Like a junkie who needs a fix, I was happy that something, anything, was being released to add on to my Dune addiction. For the most part, however, the newer books were a diluted version of Frank Herbert's works. Less touching, emotionally, philosophically, you name it. Though I'm not complaining, persay...they're just not the same.

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    Well, i agree about the house books. They are a little iffy, but legends rocks. I'm in the middle of Machine Crusade and it's busy kicking my ass.

    I was a little weirded out by KJA's involvement, after all doesn't he write Star Wars pop cookie cutter books? Might as well get R.A. Salvatore (Come to think of it, they SHOULD have gotten Salvatore. Guy can't dream up anything original but he can sure write in other people's worlds). This passed quickly, though, as i pretty much right away figured Herbert would be wearing the pants in that relationship...

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