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    Angry When the dancer gets hustled.

    So at work the other night a customer, who was there with two other friends, asked me to tell him about our VIP section. I explained how it worked and asked if he was interested... "Yes! I'd love to do that with you! Let me talk to my friends and see if they would like to go also...can you come back in about one song, give me time to talk to them?"
    So I came back a song later..... "So, what do you boys think?" I got a blank stare from his buddies...."Think about what?"
    The guy says "Oh! I haven't told them yet, sit here with me and let's tell them about it..." I'm sensing some stinky BS here...but giving the benefit of the doubt...I explain it again, this time to all of them....the guy says AGAIN "Let me have a minute to see if they would like to go." I said "Sure I'll sit here in case you have any questions about it."
    So, I answered questions, I brought friends over when they asked who else could come with me, I introduced other friends when they didn't see anyone the first time around they liked, they'd pick another friend and then say,"oaky, she's nice, but who else?

    And then can you guess what happened? Can you???

    "Ya know, we're probably just going to head home, we're all pretty tired"

    Basically, they were f*cking with me the whole time...and I felt like an ass for not picking up on it..... but they WERE being nice from the start and kept saying how much they wanted to go.....

    So anyway, my long story leads to this..... At the end of the total time (about 7 - 8 songs maybe) and they all got up to leave.....I wanted to ask the guy to tip or something....I felt hustled. Am I wrong and it was my fault, so I should swallow it? Or should I have said something?

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    In a sit like that, i say, well I did spend a lot of time with you talking about it, so wouldn't you like to tip me before you leave, since we didn't get to do our vip.

    Some people may think it's rude, but w/e, they did waste your time. next time, don't spend so long trying to convince them. For me, most guys wll get the vip w/in a few songs or not at all.

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    Default Re: When the dancer gets hustled.

    Same shit happened to me a month or two ago. Except the guy told me he was Steven Spielberg's son and that he was making a movie starring Tom Hanks and Tom Hanks was coming in.

    And I totally bought it.

    I showed them the best room in the club and alerted the staff.

    He had a phone call that he really needed to make and his friend had to go to the bathroom.

    I never saw them again.

    I'm such a chump.

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    Some guys get off on taking up our time for free. One of the DJs at my club frequents the other strip clubs in town on his nights off. He obviously knows how strip clubs and strippers work, but he goes in and wastes their time and makes up stories about his profession and life to tell them.

    Another customer at my club never buys dances or stage tips and preys on new dancers. He is a very nice, wealty guy that is fun to talk to, so he will talk to them forever and lead them on trying to get them to date him. This is why I don't give customers too much conversation before asking for a dance.

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    I flippin hate it when guys do that!! I'v had a few pull that shit and waste my time,they do it on purpose too..cocky assholes. Thats when I really wish I knew how to pickpocket.

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    I think it's probably happened to everyone, and has to be one of the most frustrating things ever because you don't want to lose the VIP and it's entirely plausible that he wants to talk to his friends about it and maybe didn't get the chance the first time. I think I probably would have done what you did, I don't know what you could have done differently aside from telling him that there is no need to talk to his friends in the first place. When they got up to leave though, I probably would have said "thanks for wasting my time". At least I would feel better for saying something.

    I'd love to hear some advice on how to deal with this.
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    Last weekend, I sat with this guy in a booth for 3 hours!! My fault totally, but I thoguht, since they had a booth, where bottle service is required, he had money and woudl spend. I took him up to the vip room, and he looks at it, and says, well, I dont feel comfortabel here. I said ok, we have another VIP room, we will go there. I show him that, and he says, I tell you what, I will give you the 500 you would make here, and we will go somewhere else. I said ok..but the club is crowded, theere really no where else to sit except VIP.

    He says.....meet me at my hotel room when you get off work and Ill give you the money then. I said uhhh...I just spend 3 hours with you, and I need compensated for my time, because I could have been workign thoes 3 hours with actual PAYING customers. He said, sure, just meet me later. He writes his number on a ONE DOLLAR bill, and tells me to make sure i call when I get off work.
    My night was ruined. I got hustled do bad, I lost a lot of money, and I didnt feel like working the rest of the night.

    Now i know better. I spend just a few minutes talking, and then I ask for either VIP, a dance, or compensation for my time. If they wont put up money then, they never will.

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    It happens hon. Sometimes they know exactly how to dangle that carrot. I'm telling you, these are the type of guys who switch jobs every couple of months so they have to pay child support through wage docking! Vegas...did you at least get him kicked out? I doubt the bouncers would care since they are buying bottles, but still, it would have been worth a shot.....

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    Default Re: When the dancer gets hustled.

    unless it's really dead i usually won't placate guys who are wishy-washy about giving me money. i'm very nice to them and if their interest seems believable i will continue to "check" on them. but if they try to take more than a song or so of my time i'll tell them that i've got to get back to work, but i'll check back soon.

    we get a lot of guys who try to take our time for free at my club (probably typical of most clubs).

    it's not your fault that they hustled you though. it's easy to get excited about a potentially big sale and put a lot of time into it. sometimes i worry that i'll lose a sale by leaving too soon. but really, if they are serious about spending money, they will. and if they're not serious, well, then there wasn't a sale there to lose.

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    Default Re: When the dancer gets hustled.

    It happens to all of us, even the high money makers in each club. Take it as a learning experience and make sure you don't do that next time. Like the story Scout told, she and I were both there and it truely amazed us how good of an actor this guy was. He was no film maker, he was a very good stripclub actor!!!! We thought, "wow, are we going to bank tonight" and we ended not making any money at all and wasted about 30 minutes. It was horrible! Whenever a man says "let me think about it" that means "no, I don't want to do it but I'm too much of a pussy to come out and say it" or the same thing "let me talk it over with my friends", another load of BS. The more I do this guy, the less BS I'm believing and trust me, it takes awhile to figure it all out and I'm sure even with years of experience you can still get fooled. I call these customers professional con-customers instead of professional con-artists because that's what they're doing, conning us out of our time for free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876
    Whenever a man says "let me think about it" that means "no, I don't want to do it but I'm too much of a pussy to come out and say it"
    actually ive used that one b4 like when a girl just comes up and asks u for a dance so you tell her no thanks mainly because you just got to the club anyway but the fact you just cant find her attractive at all doesnt help
    next thing you know shes rubbing your arm telling you how much fun it will be.
    i personally dont like hurting womens feeling anyway so i have to start searching for little ways of saying no because apparently "no" wasnt in her vocab
    and somehow the words "let me think about it" and "mabye later" seem to get her on her way go figure
    Last edited by mighty max; 09-24-2006 at 10:05 PM. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: When the dancer gets hustled.

    It never fails. I usually get hit up for a dance 20 seconds after i enter a club. And i tell them "look, i just got here." So in that case a variant of "Maybe later" actually means "maybe later, i just walked in the door."

    Other than that, though, i just tell them no if i'm not interested and if she wants to stand there rubbing on me and trying to change my mind it's on her. If i have to i'll just go to a stage, that's only failed to get rid of her once (and I never saw that Dancer again after that night).

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    This is why I don't give customers too much conversation before asking for a dance.
    Exactly.

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    my home club gets packed often on weekends...and a lot of girls still walk out with $150, even less.
    they will spend tons of money on drinks, but they don't get lap dances. i mean, they even say, "i don't get lap dances...wanna tuaca?

    i think our club really attracts jerks, and all they want is a girl's attention to feel good about themselves. they like to fool themselves into thinking we are attracted them, not their wallets, and they don't spend money just to prove it.

    guys will come and ask you to talk to them and monopolize your attention and you ask for the dance and bam! oh, no, i can't get lap dances because...or oh, yeah, i don't have any money...

    ex: i had a guy come in with his friend and i sat down. he said, "how come no girls are coming over?" and i asked if he had tipped them on stage. he said he wasn't tipping stage. so i said, if you don't do that, then go ask for a lapdance. he said he didn't want one from anyone. then i said, go ask them to sit down and give them a twenty for their time and keep it coming. he told me that was lame.

    usually, i'm polite, but at that point i said, "we're all here to make money. we don't come because we just LOVE talking to strange guys. nobody in here is looking for a date. if you want girls, you have to PAY."

    five minutes later, he was gone. good riddance.

    god, it's lame.

    and as for maybe later...half the time they mean it, half the time they don't.

    i like "no" a hell of a lot better.

    even if they say no to me sitting down, it hurts, but i'd rather they not waste my time.

    really.

    now, i'm so sick of it that when i hear, "maybe later" i ask them if that's what they really mean, and tell them if that if they really want a dance, i will come back, and i ask them when to drop by.

    i really don't play anymore.

    too many lame ass poor jerks in topeka.

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    The only thing i ask is that if you're gonna hit me up for a dance, do it the second time you see me. I usually hit the bar for a set or three, so that i can scope out the girls and see who i like. I've usually eaten some protien beforehand, to counter the effects of alchohol, so trust me i'm not there trying to 'get drunk enough' for dances (Plus, i usually do twenties to pay for beers to build up a tip roll so i can hit some stages). I just like to get a feel for who's there, who i like, and to get ready to be able to tip adequately so as to make stage sets worth the chick's time. Believe it or not, the stage show is most of the draw for me. The lapdance is less so, more of an impulse buy. I do tip for conversation time, if it's excessive, (I.E. like more than ten minutes or some such, i don't carry a stopwatch) i have no idea whether she thinks it's enough or not as there really isn't any way for me to judge that, and that had honestly never occourred to me before SW.

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    I agree. When a guy says, "come back later" I say, "do you really want me to come back later, or are you just saying that?" if they are serious, then you know they'll really get a dance later.

    I've been hustled, or at least realized later that I screwed myself over by spending too much time with someone who wasn't paying enough. I'm getting better at it though.

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    I was sitting by myself at the bar one night, just to rest my feet and because nothing else was really going on at that point. As soon as I sat down, a guy came up to me. The first thing out of his mouth was him asking to see me outside of the club.

    Bad move.

    I asked him if he had ever been into a stripclub before and if he knew how these types of clubs worked. He said yes. Then when I explained to him that I would be more than willing to have "fun" with him within the relms of my club, he insisted on still wanting to see me outside of the club. I then asked him if he really expected me to meet him on my own free time, outside of the club (out of my safety zone) even though I only knew him for a few minutes. He said yeah. What the?

    I tried explaining the whole bit to him that I was there to make money, not dates and if a date is what he was looking for, then he was in the wrong place. The guy wouldn't give up so I actually had to get up and walk away from him. I took my break elsewhere. Sheesh! It's amazing to me what some of these guys think.
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