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    I just recently started stripping. Its been about a week and I already feel very compromised. AT LEAST 50% of the guys I give a private dance to expect more. They are very pushy and can get pretty rough. There is pretty much a "fend for yourself" type rule. There is one bouncer at the door and the door is pretty freaking far from the dark corners, dark Vip room, and way dark "library"(its an extension of the Vip room only smaller more closed off and darker.) I'm shocked because this is supposed to be the top club in Houston (aka Treasures) How the hell are they allowed to operate like this? I've only been there 4 days but already I have found myself in extremely compromising situations where no one would help me. Anyone who passes will pretty much just turn their head because they think I'm prostituting myself. I'm going to start looking into working somewhere else(I hear the Men's Club is good?) but the fact that this is going on just sickens me. I want to go talk to management and demand they put more security but I'm pretty sure it will accomplish nothing. Are they violating laws? I seriously want to do something about this if I can. It breaks my heart to think of the devastating effects experiences in this club(or ones like it) have had on the girls. Self-respect is an easy thing to lose and not easily regained. After a while you don't care enough to fight back and its pretty obvious that no one is going to fight for you. Or with you.

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    If you do not like the club you currently work at...then its time to leave. Although from what I hear (Katrine could give you more details) the vast majority of TX is this way.

    Management will not do anything because they know that for every 1 girl that walks out...there are 4 more that want to work in her place.

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    Three words of advice...... Get outta there!

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    ive heard everything in houston is that way.....but that is just what i have "HEARD"

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    I've heard the same..... but maybe try the mens club? or even the penthouse.... I worked there a weekend and, although it wasn't my favorite place, it sounds better than what you are going through now.

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    Sounds horrible! If they are -ALL- that bad in your state, maybe you should consider a club in another state? I know that girls from other states come to Melbourne to work for a few days a week (since the money they make covers flight and accomodation expences and is STILL more than they would get doing other jobs). - Or move states.

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    Get out of Treasures. Not a place to cut your teeth in this biz.

    Oh yeah, and the management does not give a shit either. This club has a "reputation" to uphold and it is known for this activity. I have worked at the en's club and the Colorado and had good experiences at both places, just be warned that even at cleaner clubs in Houston, you will be working around extras grils and have to work hard to compete.

    I'm sorry you had a tough time, but this is the reality. Also all clubs in TX are not like that but everywhere I've danced, you will be giving friction LDs.

    The girls that choose to do extras know what they are doing, and while for some, the choices they make in the club may have far-reaching consequences either now or later, you cannot save them, nor do they want to be saved.
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    Welcome to Houston. I had been dancing for 8 years when I went to Treasures for World Series last year. Even I, theoretically tough as nails, had to take a xanax to try and deal with the fuckers (not my M.O. at work!). Even then I couldn't handle that joint and left before the first night was over.

    You'll find this everywhere in Houston, no way to avoid it. The Men's Club is only slightly better, and there are so many girls competing for the few clean dollars in town. I always had a great time at Penthouse (was Caligula). There are plenty of extras there, but they will take care of you. Get in good with the GM Mike, and the Pedros behind the bar, they will send you business.

    Sorry about your experience, but not suprised at all. Austin and San Antonio are far better places to dance, but don't expect not to get propositioned. Treasure is hell on earth!

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    I haven't worked in Houston, but have talked to girls here in Austin who have. Treasures is a pretty extras-y club, from what I hear. Most of Houston has a reputation for being this way, and whether or not the reputation is deserved, it will still attract customers who want/expect more, because they've heard they can get it. The only Houston club I've heard positive things about is The Men's Club, so maybe try there although it's supposed to be quite competetive. Some girls from Houston drive up to Austin to work, others work smaller towns in the surrounding area, like Beaumont.

    Again, everything I'm saying is hearsay. There are some Houston girls on here and hopefully they'll chime in. But if you are in a club known for extras, it's not going to get better because you complain. They'll just find a way to get rid of you and hire a girl who will go along to get along.

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    I refused to strip once I moved to Houston. I've been to Treasures, and clean, noncontact girls don't have a chance.

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    I think especially if you are starting to dance, it's important to dance somewhere where you feel safe, and where you know you can go to management to help you out. That's really the most important thing. Starting out a club where you have to fend for yourself when you're still learning the ropes would be very hard.

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    houston is simply not a place to start out dancing if you can afford to travel to work. there's plenty of towns 1-3 hours drive away that are perfectly decent money and far lower contact expectations.

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    Thanks for the advice! I think for now I'm going to tough it out at least until I can find another job. I have virtually no experience dancing so I doubt the Men's Club would be too keen on hiring me just yet. Some of the girls gave me some good advice when it comes to dealing with customers. They pretty much told me to decide what I would and would not do and stick to it. Its not like the guys who are feeling me up and whipping their dicks out are even giving me decent money. I've found that the respectful ones are much more generous. I'm going to give the "my body, my rules" approach a try. If that doesn't work I'm getting outta there.

    Thanks again for the advice! Knowing people care enough to read my post and reply makes me smile.

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    men's club doesn't care about experience levels. it costs nothing to head over there and see if you can work, since the club is practically next door to treasures.

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    I have a membership on The Ultimate Strip Club List, and Treasures is the top-reviewed club in Houston. Everyone on there knows this is a place for extras. The Men's Club is not such as scary place to go and get hired. I don't know why everyone is always so intimidated to go in there. They don't even audition the girls to see if they can dance, they just want to see you in your thong. The only thing you have to work around onstage is the lack of a pole. And if you don't want to go onstage, all you have to do is pay $20 to skip.

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    i've also "heard" that texas is bad, just like florida is bad (esp tampa where i am).

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    I've edited this post because it was interpreted as mean which wasn't my intention.

    My understanding is that Austin has much lower to zero contact there. At least it was (mostly airdances) when I lived there. Your situation does suck. I'm sorry.

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    I started waitressing in Houston in 97. Then I danced in Austin for a while. I came back in 2000 or 2001, after the 3 ft rule was passed, and it was a completely different ballgame.

    In 97, EVERY girl at the Colorado was beautiful and unique in looks. Stage shows had a tiny bit of significance. Not much, but at least guys tipped decently. I saw some boob groping and grinding in the very private areas of the club, but most of it was fairly open.

    When I came back, all the clubs had built super private booths and VIP areas. While this was originally intended to protect from the police (maybe?), all it did was proliferated extras. Texas clubs don't have bouncers policing the private dance areas like other states. This was fine in an open floor layout situation, but toxic once the booths went up. In combination with the ordinance, it took less than 2 years for the scene to go to shit.

    I did fine dancing clean there for a while, but eventually, even the strong succumd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_dude
    My understanding is that Austin has much lower to zero contact there. At least it was (mostly airdances) when I lived there. Your situation does suck. I'm sorry.
    Well, now I have something more than hearsay to report. Austin is medium contact, not zero. Lapdances are at least one-way full contact and most girls do some grinding. About half of customers will want to touch your breasts and ass, and some will try to touch your kitty as well. Definitely no airdances, but if you are lithe and learn to dodge, you can get away without being groped -- much. No club I've worked at here (Crazy Lady, Yellow Rose, Perfect 10, Sugar's) has a bouncer who does anything meaningful beyond occasionally scold YOU for what your customers try to do, so you need to be able to watch out for yourself. Still, it's a whole lot better than Houston, I hear, the money is OK, and the tipouts are low. Worth a try, at least.

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    Katrine has informed me that while airdances were normal when I was there, it has since changed. Sorry for the misinformation.

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    I'm sorry that you learned the hard way.

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