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    Default The latest scam that's circulating

    There is a scam going around right now that is extremely difficult to resist for people to be tempted to be taken advantage of. It's a pretty brilliant scam too and for the lay-person, it's extremely difficult to resist. Here is how it works.

    You get a letter or postcard in the mail from an anonymous sender. You receive the letter in the middle or latter part of the week and it says that the sender knows who the winner of a certain football game on the upcoming Sunday game will be and then gives you the prediction. That's it. So you may throw the card out or keep it or whatever. So the game comes and the prediction was correct. A few days later, you receive another piece of mail with yet another prediction for a game on the upcoming Sunday. It too is correct. You keep getting these pieces of mail and EVERY SINGLE ONE is right. You start getting a bit freaked out because so far, 100% of the predictions are correct which is seemingly impossible and yet it actually is happening. So now, SuperBowl Sunday is coming up. You receive one last piece of mail stating that every prediction to date has been correct. If you want the winner of the Superbowl so you can make a big bet on the game, it's going to cost you. Send a Money Order in the amount of $5000.00 (or any other high dollar amount) to a certain address. Of course, you never get the winner and you got taken for $5K. Here is how it works.

    Let's say you receive five pieces of mail predicting five games...all correct, 5 out of 5.

    The scam artist actually sends out 100,000 pieces of mail. With postage and hard costs, he/she is looking at about $40,000 to do it but the payoff will be huge. 50,000 of the mailers predict Team A and the other 50,000 predict Team B of the same game. Only half are right obviously. So for the half that are wrong, the scam artist doesn't send any mail again. The next week, he does the same thing, but to only the winners of the previous week. He does this week after week for five games and then the last piece asking for the money. His total costs are going to be about $80,000 for the entire campaign and after five weeks, he's going to be left with 6,250 people who will receive the final email requesting money. Let's say that 5% actually fall for it and send him the $5,000. That's 312 people each sending a money order for $5,000. That is combined total of $1,560,000 or a profit of $1.48 million. It's really clever and VERY tempting for people to fall for because the accuracy is so astounding. Just beware if you get such a letter in the mail though.

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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    A less expensive way to do that scam is to do it through email. It would be less time intensive, too. Maybe even claim to be a psychic or something, and offer to prove it to the people you are emailing.

    Hmmmm, I'm thinking of doing something like that with my friends come election time. Yep, I'm psychic, I can predict who is going to win elections... Now call me up for advice at $2.99 a minute, ask my friends, they'll tell you I acurately predicted the elections!!


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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    I don't think this would work as well via Email only because it's in email and people are so used to getting junk like that. When you get an actual letter in your mailbox, it has a different psychological impact. While much more expensive in the front-end, you'll have a lot more success with it in my opinion. Keep in mind, the envelope looks simple...not like a marketing piece, and the note inside says nothing other than something like, "The New England Patriots are going to win the game this Sunday."

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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    yeah, nobody reads the e-mails....they go to autotrashbin

    that is pretty clever, but it's so massive that it would be hard to keep what was going on a secret.

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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    Just beware if you get such a letter in the mail though.
    Better yet, contact the Postal Inspection Service.

    http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/

    It wouldn't work on me anyways. I'm too damned skeptical and I don't pay enough attention to football to make it worthwhile.
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    I'm in a different country ! What is the cost of postage for a simple normal letter in the mail in the US? Here in Aust it is 50c ...... so I don't think it would be too worthwhile for the person to do it. Granted, they would've done it by now as two football finals are happening this weekend:

    AFL (Australian Rules Football) is happening Saturday. NRL (National Rugby League) is happening Sunday.


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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    I What is the cost of postage for a simple normal letter in the mail in the US?
    39 cents for a normal letter, but a postcard can be sent for 24 cents. Mass mailers can usually get a discount of a few cents per piece by helping out with the sorting process in one way or another.
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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    That's the latest scam?

    I though it was the oldest one in the book...

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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    Sweet, won't happen here most likely.


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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    give me my old fashioned pyramid schemes. (lets include social security)

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    Ah, but wait, there's MORE! I just read about this one that's also circulating. It's capitalizing on all the companies doing "secret shopper" type programs. According to what I read, the scam artists are even running ads on the Internet right now hooking people in through some reputable sources so be VERY careful of this one.

    Here is how the scam works. You are hired as a Secret Shopper and they call you a few days later for your first assignment. They tell you they need you to accept the assignment immediatley and handle the job within 48 hours because the other person assigned to the job flaked on them. So here is how it works. They overnight you a check payable to you in the amount of $1,000 or higher. Some people have already been scammed for a lot more but the average amount seems to be a few thousand dollars. So you get this check and told that you need to be a secret shopper in for a large bank like BofA. They want you to go in, talk to someone at the information desk, get a deposit slip, and deposit the money into your own account. Then take notes on the experience. Now since you are depositing this amount into your account they tell you to also wire the same amount of money to an account as part of the transaction experience. They then tell you that if you do everything right, you will receive, as payment $100.00 payable in a week or two by their firm. They also tell you that should you not wire the money within 24 hours you will be in violation of a federal crime yadda yadda yadda.

    Here's the catch. The check is a fake. By the time the all the checking is done to verify this, you've already wired thousands of dollars out of your account to an offshore account and the bank then goes and withdraws that amount of money from your own account to cover the bad check. Hence the scam. According to what I just read, there have been a lot of pretty smart people who have been taken by this one already. Some of the scam artists even go so far to send you a huge detailed package thanking you for enrolling in the secret shopper program to add validity to everything. Just keep your eyes open everyone!

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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    Heard that one!


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    I probably get about as much junk mail in my regular mailbox as I do spam in email so if I got something like that I'd probably shitcan it for sure. And I sure as fuck don't have $5,000 to be betting on a ballgame!

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    Default Re: The latest scam that's circulating

    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    ...His total costs are going to be about $80,000 for the entire campaign and after five weeks, he's going to be left with 6,250 people who will receive the final email requesting money

    Hey. I know someone who could lend me the $80k...

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    Dancerwealth:

    This takes advantage of the CHECK21 movement where checks are cleared immediatly then validated later.

    Sickening, but with all the technology we have, it's amazing how we can auth our bank account through a mastercard linked to our bank account through a minimum of 12 hops in seconds, but a check with an actual routing number and account number takes days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    Dancerwealth:

    This takes advantage of the CHECK21 movement where checks are cleared immediatly then validated later.

    Sickening, but with all the technology we have, it's amazing how we can auth our bank account through a mastercard linked to our bank account through a minimum of 12 hops in seconds, but a check with an actual routing number and account number takes days.

    Well personally I'm sickened that cheques are still used, they even came up with e-cheques that still take foerver to clear, and if I want to 'instant' transfer into paypal or alert pay, I have to pay the bank 20 bucks for a wire transfer.

    Pity, secret shopper was one of the last few things that you could do that was legit, and paid. As they always say, if it is too good to be true, it probablly is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrustratedBunny
    I probably get about as much junk mail in my regular mailbox as I do spam in email so if I got something like that I'd probably shitcan it for sure.
    Ditto!

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