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    Default Poll shows 4 in 5 Iraqis say US causes more violence than prevents

    WASHINGTON (Sept. 28 ) - About six in 10 Iraqis say they approve of attacks on U.S.-led forces, and slightly more than that want their government to ask U.S. troops to leave within a year, according to a poll in that country.

    The Iraqis also have negative views of Osama bin Laden, according to the early September poll of 1,150.

    The poll, done for University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes, found:

    · Almost four in five Iraqis say the U.S. military force in Iraq provokes more violence than it prevents.

    · About 61 percent approved of the attacks - up from 47 percent in January. A solid majority of Shiite and Sunni Arabs approved of the attacks, according to the poll. The increase came mostly among Shiite Iraqis.

    · An overwhelmingly negative opinion of terror chief bin Laden and more than half, 57 percent, disapproving of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    · Three-fourths say they think the United States plans to keep military bases in Iraq permanently.

    · A majority of Iraqis, 72 percent, say they think Iraq will be one state five years from now. Shiite Iraqis were most likely to feel that way, though a majority of Sunnis and Kurds also believed that would be the case.

    The PIPA poll, which included an oversample of 150 Sunni Iraqis, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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    Aye. Let em grind each other up without abandon.

    Kind of like the Sudan. Who gives a fuck? Not our problem arabs are killing blacks as fast as they can find them. Our troops best never appear there.

    Somalia? There's another lovely mess do-gooding got us into. So the food is stolen by militias and the people starved. What is important is that we sent food. If the people there can't manage it right - what problem is it of ours?

    Sometimes I think if we let them be they will kill themselves off like Hutu's and Tutsi's in Rwanda.

    I grow weary of the US being the police man of the world. When people are bloodied enough or enough of them are killed off, peace will appear.

    Let the UN fuck it up - and I mean that literally with the UN's ability to create prostitution rings where their troops end up.

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    Probably because we are creating more violence than stopping. Our current approach of putting out fires in regions then pulling troops out leaves little vacuums all over the place for separatists to wreak havoc.

    The death toll is over 100,000 Iraqis. Gee, I wonder why the average Arab on the street is frustrated with our bumbled experiment on democracy.


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    Default Re: Poll shows 4 in 5 Iraqis say US causes more violence than prevents

    not to mention a newer report claims you have a 20% better chance of getting shot i dc than in iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jordankeywest
    not to mention a newer report claims you have a 20% better chance of getting shot i dc than in iraq.
    Sorry babe, but despite how beautiful you are, there are over 100,000 dead Iraqis who disagree with this unsubstantiated statement. Um, that's compared to a few dozen in DC?

    Simple math tells you it's over 1,000 times greater risk of dying due to violence in Iraq vs. DC.

    What's really interesting from the report:

    They believe we'll have permanent bases. That's pretty much understood based upon the current administrations' tact. Rummy threatened to fire the next staffer who asked about making plans to pull out our resources.

    They believe Iraq will stay one state. That means that they don't believe the sectarian violence will win out.

    They don't like Iran. Um, excuse me - didn't they have a massive WAR against Iran just 25 years ago? No Shit!!! they don't like the guys who killed their kids!!!


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    Eh, they mean parts of DC are worse than the average safety of the entire nation of Iraq, and that I believe, having been there. There was one neighborhood I knew enough to get out of right away, having been around Chicago and Detroit enough to know when it wasn't a friendly environment, to say the least...

    But they're not going to kidnap me and cut my head off, they'll just shoot me and take my money.

    It's hard to argue with the apparent dramatic increase of people dying in fucked up ways, for fucked up reasons, since we invaded to get rid of the undeniably monstrous Saddam.
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    Default Re: Poll shows 4 in 5 Iraqis say US causes more violence than prevents

    Does this poll include both Iraqi men and women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishaBliss
    Does this poll include both Iraqi men and women?
    Oh come now, women's opinions don't count (there)!

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    Default Re: Poll shows 4 in 5 Iraqis say US causes more violence than prevents

    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Oh come now, women's opinions don't count (there)!
    But their votes do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser
    Eh, they mean parts of DC are worse than the average safety of the entire nation of Iraq, and that I believe, having been there. There was one neighborhood I knew enough to get out of right away, having been around Chicago and Detroit enough to know when it wasn't a friendly environment, to say the least...

    But they're not going to kidnap me and cut my head off, they'll just shoot me and take my money.

    It's hard to argue with the apparent dramatic increase of people dying in fucked up ways, for fucked up reasons, since we invaded to get rid of the undeniably monstrous Saddam.

    i dont agree at all seeing how ive been to both d.c. and iraq. sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    But their votes do.
    Only if they are allowed out of the house!

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