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    Maybe it's just me, but I think it's rude when a customer gives you money for a lapdance, and then expects change back. Is it so hard to get your $20s broken at the bar, by the bartender? Lapdances at my club are $30/song, and oftentimes guys will give me two $20s, and then look at me expectantly after I take the money and thank them. "Aren't you going to give me change?" they say, and then I have to open my bag and count out $10 in ones. I hate doing that because... well... that's my stage tip money! Chances are, some of that is going to end up back in my garter anyway!

    I don't know, it just seems kind of strange. Godforbid you tip someone an extra $10, right?

    I also hate it when a customer will hold out the possibility of giving you an extra tip in exchange for a "better" lapdance. At my club, policy is to take the money upfront. One guy said "maybe we'll discuss an extra tip after our dance," and after I give him a dance, he stands up, sighs blissfully and says "that was fantastic".... and walks off.

    Anyone else get this?

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    if a dance is $30, you shouldnt EXPECT $40. THATS rude imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidnz
    if a dance is $30, you shouldnt EXPECT $40. THATS rude imo
    I don't expect $40, I expect a $20 and a $10.

    I'm not a cash register here.

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    It's a catch-22. It might be rude to not give correct change, but vice versa.

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    I dont think it's rude of customers to expect change. 9 times out of 10 I find they'll either tip me with it anyway or if I explain that I dont have change on me but can get it at the bar or from a waitress they'll say not to bother with it.
    I think basic manners are something to do with it.

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    If they expect change, i would generally offer to go to the bar. i have stood there with a massive pile of stage ones lying on the floor next to the dance couch and said 'we need to go get change at the bar if you want it'. many guys are just like 'whatever' at that point and will tip it to you to avoid the hassle.

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    I just don't know if they expect change back or not. I get mixed messages because a lot of my customers want to tip me the extra $10, instead of standing there and staring at me awkwardly waiting for me to ring them up like a cashier. I wouldn't mind at all if they said, "wait a min, let me break a $20," or "do you have a $10, hon?" but usually they give me $40, and say thank you, and I assume our transaction is over. I never count the money in front of them because I think it implies that I don't trust them.

    Maybe it's a cultural thing... unless it's a HUGE amount (like someone giving me a $100 for a lapdance) I usually assume they've just tipped me extra for the dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meimei
    I just don't know if they expect change back or not. I get mixed messages because a lot of my customers want to tip me the extra $10, instead of standing there and staring at me awkwardly waiting for me to ring them up like a cashier. I wouldn't mind at all if they said, "wait a min, let me break a $20," or "do you have a $10, hon?" but usually they give me $40, and say thank you, and I assume our transaction is over. I never count the money in front of them because I think it implies that I don't trust them.

    Maybe it's a cultural thing... unless it's a HUGE amount (like someone giving me a $100 for a lapdance) I usually assume they've just tipped me extra for the dance.

    Maybe ask? Like "Thanks, I noticed the extra 10, will that be going towards another dance or are you being generous?". Or "would you like the extra ten back?"

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    At a club I used to go to they charged $15 per song for a dance. Personally, I always thought it was petty to ask for the $5 in change, and I'd just let the dancer keep the $20. However, there were plenty of guys who felt the dance price was posted as $15 so they'd only want to pay $15. Every other club in the area charges $20 per song, which to me meant a dance was worth $20, but again part of the reason why some guys went to that club was specifically because the dance price was cheaper.


    Now a $30 dance and getting two $20's ... Hrm, I can better understand a customer wanting some change in that scenario. If this is common, it sounds like something you just have to prepare for. You shouldn't think of it as loosing your stage money; you just changed it for a bigger bill. It's not really like you lost anything. ... In fact, I think it would be best to make sure you have a supply of small bills such as $1's or $5's so that it would be easier for the customer to give you some of the small change back in an extra tip. If he wasn't willing to give you the full $10, he might be willing to give you back $5 if you give him change that will allow him to do so.

    As far as paying before hand. ... Unless it was a dancer I was a regular for and we had a preset arrangement, then I'd only pay for the actual price of the dance up front. Tipping for good service is just that. How am I supposed to know before hand that the dancer will deserve an extra tip. Even in places that don't require it, I'll offer to pay up front and then if I feel the dancer is deserving I'll offer an extra tip at the end. I prefer to split it up for two reasons: 1) the dancer typically knows that if I pay before hand she's less likely to have any problems with me, and even if she does she's already got her money and could leave my ass. Heh, not that I've ever been a problem, but I find that paying up front just helps to relax the whole situation I usually find I get a better dance from it. 2) When I split up the payment and the tip, I feel like it helps to highlight the tip. It really becomes that extra "thank you" that wasn't expected.
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    I HATE having to get change because I put my money in my locker asap, so normally on a night shift that means having to fight my way through the crowd to find a waitress to give me change.

    that's just lame and a waste of my time.

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    I would assume they wanted change unless they said otherwise. Most guys seem to have mostly 20s and ones in their wallets especially if they just walked in. I hardly ever see 10s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meimei
    ...I wouldn't mind at all if they said, "wait a min, let me break a $20," or "do you have a $10, hon?" but usually they give me $40, and say thank you, and I assume our transaction is over. ...
    Yeah, I can understand that if the customer says nothing you might assume he meant to just tip you the extra $10, and I could see how it might stink to hear them then ask for change after you've already started to depart.

    However, I just think it's professional courtesy to ask about the extra $10. Rather then just try to leave it unspoken and try to sneak away with it. You can be cute about asking about the change and then if he says, "No, keep it", you could give him a big smile and an extra thank you to show you noticed the tip and appreciated it. Then there's no confusion.

    One time I did two dances which were $15 a piece and handed the dancer a $50. She was very polite and professional and asked if I needed change. I said "No thank you, it's for you" to which she replied, "good answer" and gave me a big smile.

    My last thought is, many customers like it when their tip is noticed and acknowleged. If you just tuck the two $20's in your garter without mentioning the change or acknowledging the tip, then the customer might feel a little put off by that. He may have wanted to tip you that extra $10, but without any thank you or acknowledgement, I could see some customers having second thoughts and requesting the change as you start to just walk away.
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    offer them an extended dance--at least you get to keep the money and the customer is happy. Ive done that when a customer gave me a 50 for two dances (at 20 each)
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    Most places count your dances so even if you give them thirty seconds, the bouncer marks you and you end up paying a dance fee anyway. And yeah, you should ask. It sucks, but you don't want to look greedy either, might prevent future dances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by verfolgung

    As far as paying before hand. ... Unless it was a dancer I was a regular for and we had a preset arrangement, then I'd only pay for the actual price of the dance up front. Tipping for good service is just that. How am I supposed to know before hand that the dancer will deserve an extra tip. Even in places that don't require it, I'll offer to pay up front and then if I feel the dancer is deserving I'll offer an extra tip at the end. I prefer to split it up for two reasons: 1) the dancer typically knows that if I pay before hand she's less likely to have any problems with me, and even if she does she's already got her money and could leave my ass. Heh, not that I've ever been a problem, but I find that paying up front just helps to relax the whole situation I usually find I get a better dance from it. 2) When I split up the payment and the tip, I feel like it helps to highlight the tip. It really becomes that extra "thank you" that wasn't expected.
    Club rules are that I should ask them to pay upfront - most of the time, I will lead them to the lapdance area, tell them the rules and that they have to "pay to play", and wait for the next song before I do the lapdance. For some strange reason, though, they tune me out and half the time they refuse to pay me until after the dance, though so far I've never been stiffed. I'd feel crass if I had to ask them twice, so I usually let it slide. I've noticed that the guys who want their change back are always the ones who don't pay up front. Maybe they think I'll forget to charge them?

    Guys who pay up front often will pull out more money at the end of the dance, and I always thank them for the tip. I guess they have more appreciation for services rendered. I don't expect a tip, though I get them pretty often.

    (I'm sorry if my initial post made me come off like a money-grubbing dancer; I'm really not! I'm just overly sensitive to nuances ... if anyone's ever heard the parable about the Japanese household and the tea and bananas. if someone gives me something, I assume they want me to have it - otherwise, it's like giving someone a present then asking for it back. Part of it is probably that I just switched to this club; at my old club every single lapdance had to be rung up at the register, so there was no question about change.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by meimei
    ... I've noticed that the guys who want their change back are always the ones who don't pay up front. Maybe they think I'll forget to charge them?

    Guys who pay up front often will pull out more money at the end of the dance, and I always thank them for the tip. I guess they have more appreciation for services rendered. I don't expect a tip, though I get them pretty often. ...
    Yeah some customers are just cheap. Sorry to hear that. Your right, some customers no matter what you do, will just try to pay the bare minimum.

    Please don't get me wrong either. I didn't mean to rain on your rant. As one who likes to tip, I the main purpose of my posts were to try and help you either keep your tip or put yourself in a position to maximize the liklihood of getting an extra tip.

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    On the one hand I can understand the sticklers who expect to pay the going rate for a dance, not a cent more or less. ANECDOTE: I remember back in my rookie clubbing days (may have been my second or third time in a club with lap dances, which would be over a decade ago) where I went to a place that had $15 dances. I'd only brought about $60 with me and no plastic, and after paying the cover, tipping at the stage, and a couple of drinks I was down to a solitary $20 bill. And then I found the *one* dancer in the club from whom I wanted the *one* dance I could afford to have. Knowing the dances were $15 apiece I figured it wouldn't be any trouble for her to break my $20 (after all, she raked at the stage near my table). As could be predicted, it was a federal case to get that change

    However, my opinion is that if the customer finds out the dance price is *not* in the typical $20 multiple, break your big bills/notes first. Then you avoid the hassle of having to ask for the all-important change.

    I just had a thought...custys must figure that the strippers are just like the cocktail waitresses in the club, or even servers in regular bars and restaurants, where when it comes time to pay the bill, you give them money and they give you change. I mean, if I only had two $20 notes to pay for an $30 tab, I would give the server the two $20s and absolutely expect to get change back (from which I'd likely leave a fiver for a tip).
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    I don't see why it's so rude for the guys to want change. I make change like that all night and think nothing of it. Of course if it's a big bill I'll take it to the bar for change because I want them to check it. Why should ALL the guys at the club have to run to the bar to break their bills just so you don't have to, god forbid, count out $10 for them? Your post sounds like the whining of a spoiled brat.

    I carry my money strapped to my garter so it's no trouble at all to simply make the change as I'm putting their payment into my stack.

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    Our dances are 15 and everyone just gives 20... if some guy asked for his change back expecting me to pull ones out of my garter... well then I would have a hard time acting nice about it.

    If someone said "Oh I have to break big bills" I would ask if I could have more dances or I would have the waitress break their money.

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    I don't mind making change...I usually ask first "would you like change?", and if they say yes, I give it to them, no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meimei
    I hate doing that because... well... that's my stage tip money! Chances are, some of that is going to end up back in my garter anyway!
    URGH!
    Ok, that makes no sense to me, yes you should give change. Maybe it is a pain in the ass to have to give it,but your dances are 30, not 40. Tips should be appreciated, not expected. Not wanting to give change b/c you are probably gonna get it back anyways sounds lazy. DO you think you deserve to just keep it and skip the part where the customer gets his entertainment for that 10 dollars?

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    I don't think it's rude to ask for change back, though it would be nice if the clubs had a change counter set up for customers...though that may fuck with tips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbt
    Most guys seem to have mostly 20s and ones in their wallets especially if they just walked in. I hardly ever see 10s.
    The primary reason for this is that the last thing lot of guys hit before heading to the club is an ATM machine. For the most part, they tend to primarily spit out $20 bills.

    All I can tell you is if you work in a club where dances are an off-20 price is that you should expect to hear this a lot, and prepare yourself accordingly. That's what any other customer oriented business would do.
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    Well, our dances are $10 so when a customer gives a $20, it's rather annoying to ask us for change back, especailly because that's not really considered the "common norm" in our club. I mean $10 for dance, if she gives you a great lapdance, is it going to kill you to give her the $20 and not ask for change back? Especially because at my club, they let you get in free with game tickets like baseball, football, etc.

    What also is irritating to me is I'll be walking by and a customer stops and asks me if I can break his $20 for him, I of course do it to encourage him to tip the stage but I feel that if I'm stopping and taking time out to break money that I should at least get a $1 tip out of it. If some of you want to call me greedy, rude or whatever, ok, but that's just how I feel about the whole tipping and breaking change thing. WHen I came as a customer, I NEVER asked a dancer for change, I always got my money broken either at the bar or at the cash register where I pay my cover charge. But everyone thinks differently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876
    I mean $10 for dance, if she gives you a great lapdance, is it going to kill you to give her the $20 and not ask for change back?
    No, but it might be easier yet just to buy a second dance. I mean if its that great, why stop at one?
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