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    I have worked with a few dancers such as you describe, who didn't need me to boost their confidence. They still tipped me really well, but I'm not arguing your point.

    A truly strong-willed woman such as yourself would of course feel outraged at the shit you've had to deal with.

    You know where I'm coming from with this, and how much I respect you, and also might recall that I have surely bashed DJs almost as much as you, lol--though mostly when I was a neophyte SW member.
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    The reason I make money with or without a good DJ is because the money is made ON THE FLOOR, not on stage. There isn't a DJ on this planet that can help me sell a dance or vip. I do it all by myself. And so does every other girl.

    I tip a good DJ well. I reckon he earns it and just the mere fact that he does a good job makes me respect him enough to WANT to pay him more. Hell I'll even tip more to the ones who really aren't good but don't give me shit and/or let me work my way, simply because I appreciate the fact they don't give me a hard time and that allows me to work my best. Also the ones who understand and apply the concept of mutual backscratching. But the vast majority just suck some serious ass and they will get nothing more than the bare minimum from me. And if they're REALLY bad, like the one in my rant thread, they get less.
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    Let me add that if DJs money weren't tied to ours they'd be better workers. Managers who set a minimum tip out to DJs should set a minimum salary to dancers. But until our fuckin' money is guaranteed theirs shouldn't be. I've never sold a VIP because of the stupid DJ! I gotta scream over his ear splitting noise to make the sale. (No offense meant Djoser )

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    [QUOTE=Bridgette]The reason I make money with or without a good DJ is because the money is made ON THE FLOOR, not on stage. There isn't a DJ on this planet that can help me sell a dance or vip. I do it all by myself. And so does every other girl.]


    I did have an exception to this once, which is the one time a dj helped me make money. I was in Montana, and there you can make up to 400 dollars in tips alone on the stage. My last night there, the manager was the dj and he was extremely effective in getting the guys to tip the stage. Both myself and Scarlett made more on tips that night than any other and it was because he, unlike the other djs, was good at getting the guys to tip. But this was the one time.

    I particularly hate the minimum tip out idea. To be it's the same as in countries where the tip is included in the bill. You sure as hell don't get good service when the waitress/waiter already know he/she is getting a tip, and the same applies to djs. At this one club that I worked at you had to pay a minimum of 15 dollars and then after that 3.75 an hour. Well this one dj REFUSED TO PLAY MY CDS OR EVEN LOOK IN THE COMPUTER FOR MY CDS THAT WERE BURNED because he was to fucking lazy and needed to power trip, yet a HAD to tip him. It's absolutely ludicrous.

    And as for the dj Captain Rob... You think that for playing songs from an already made playlist you should get like 400 dollars a night? More than what a lot of dancers make on a slow night? Hah! If every dancer has to tip 20 dollars and there are 20 dancers you have made 400 dollars! That's ridiculous. In Western Canada, djs earn 10 dollars an hour and maybe an extra 100 in tips at the end of the week.

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    ^^Yeah. One DJ I work with, one Friday night came yelling back in the dressing room: "Where's _____???!!!" (she was late for stage) "She's ruining MY Friday night show!!!"
    LMFAO. As if anyone came for HIS show

    At least the wedding DJ has to come up with his own music and playlist. The SCDJ only has to play what WE tell him or bring in ourselves.

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    Ok girlie. Perhaps your man is one of the extremely rare good DJs. Perhaps his experience, talent and ability to draw a male crowd in a female show is above and beyond that of 99% of SCDJs out there. STILL, it doesn't discount the fact that by far MOST of them simply S-U-C-K

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    No offense but heterosexual guys don't come to SCs to bond with the DJ. I've worked in 6 states in little country bars all the way up to big showclubs. In most clubs it's a physical impossibility for a custmer to stand and chat. Who the hell would pay a cover and inflated drink prices to tell music when they can do it for free in their local cd store? Point-blank, horny hetro dudes could give a flip about the scrungy-ass DJ. They want some babes.

    Here's a challenge. Post a poll in Customer Convo and ask how many come to see the DJ.

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    ^^That's what I've been saying, but I guess I figured I'd give the benefit of the doubt.

    In 11 years dancing in 30-something clubs, 13 states, 1 territory and 1 foreign country (and yes I've danced/lived in Vegas) I have never once heard of a customer who comes to the strip club with the sole intention of visiting the DJ. I too have worked in every kind of club from tiny country bars to worldclass showclubs. They may use that excuse as an attempt to gain some "in" with the girls, but ultimately, they're there to ogle naked chics and look "cool" to said chics by being the DJ's "friend". Hell even one of our DJs admits he tuned out the DJ as a customer, until he actually BECAME a DJ. I have never read any customer posts on SW or any other stripper board I was on before SW, where the customer talked about going to see the DJ - if anything they always say they ignore him/wish he'd just shut up already and play the music (which, oddly enough, is exactly what they say in the clubs too).


    I think our SW DJs (and their SOs) take a bit too much offense to our DJ rantings though. Same way we tell custies around here - we're just venting and if what we're saying doesn't apply to you then great. We acknowledge not EVERY single SCDJ sucks ass, just most. You don't have to defend yourself or your SO and the fact that around 1% of the SCDJ population is worth a damn is NOT going to make us stop saying that in general, SCDJs suck. Because in general, they do.

    Same way the strippers here don't represent a good sample of strippers on average, and custies here don't represent a good sample of custies on average, I would have to say the DJs here most likely don't represent a good sample of DJs on average. Do we really have to repeat this every time we want to have a good rant? Now can yall SW DJs just get your panties out of the wads please?
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    We can all sure agree there are a lot of shitty DJs, lol!

    I know guys don't come to see a DJ alone, they are there to see the dancers--but I did work in one club where there was a dramatic turn around after I started working, because I was playing a lot different music than the old lame DJs they had, and there was a college right next door--an aeronautical university, actually.

    They weren't there to see me, hell no, but they liked the combination of better music and happier, more inspired dancers, and so they came in on the nights I worked, and pretty soon we were swamped those nights. The difference was so quick and so noticeable that I was quite popular with the staff there, female and male (they made a lot more money). It kind of spoiled me, lol...

    Other clubs I have worked in have failed to display this dramatic and sudden improvement, much to my disappointment, but I have made a difference in a few.

    One of our best customers in my new club is always telling me he loves coming in when I work because I play certain songs for his favorite dancers that he likes seeing them dance to, and gets them going well. He likes the other DJ too, and he's sure there to see his favorite dancers, not me, lol--but there is this phenomenon at work sometimes, to varying degrees.
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    Guen, I conceded to give your man credit for being a cool one even though I've never met the guy and he apparently doesn't even post here - that and outright saying there are exceptions. I'm not taking offense or intending offense to you. It's really just a rant thread after all and rants by nature are gonna seem a bit hostile and generalized. That's about as far as it goes...

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    Bridgette helped this DJ out considerably yesterday, when I called her as i was walking the block and 1/2 to work. We were laughing about this thread, and it put me in the right mood to deal with evrything going wrong when i got there--I had a great night thanks to talking to my friend first.
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    Well I guess I must be fucking niave then I worked at a club last week where there was money on the floor but none of the girls could get the guys to cough it up... the DJ/MC tried a new approach to things and had guys jumping up and throwing money like crazy on the stage.. I made close to $200 on that show. He hit the right lights...made a suggestion to change my music, and I agreed and it made a HUGE difference.

    I am a firm believer that the right DJ can make a huge difference in a girls show.

    Should I add that this is the kind of club where the shows count? You CAN NOT get on stage and just walk in circles, you MUST put a show on. The DJ and MC work on pumping the crowd.. they get the right lights, will suggest to girls that the music they are using may not fit the crowd thats in the club at that time etc...

    I guess people are stumbling across the wrong DJs. I've worked with some fan fucking tastic DJs in the last year. I've danced in around 20 clubs now.. i've worked with shitty ones that I will tip to keep their mouthes closed.. and worked with ones who i've tipped very well for helping me put on a good show.

    I work in places where the girls are paid to do shows, where shows really count and the DJ makes a difference. So the DJs have to be good.

    Also I have run into many a customers who will show up just to hear the DJ because the DJs are fucking funny as hell. I dont rely on the DJ to help me make money, I know how to do shows without them. I know how to pump a crowd on my own but sometimes there is only so much a girl can do and then the DJ can help push that extra bit to get the guys going.

    But alas I guess im just niave and have a lot to learn because i've only been dancing a year

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    That's a whole 'nother enchilada Cally. That kind of club is pretty much nonexistent in the states. The customers for the most part couldn't give a damn about the stageshow because they're after the laps. In a SHOWclub such as that, hell yes the DJ can make a world of difference, but in our clubs, not so much.

    Did you read the previous comments about how our money is made and how the DJ has nothing to do with THAT?

    Guen, nah, we're not even really disagreeing on opinions at this point. We've both said they mostly suck with only rare exceptions. So what was the debate about again?

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    Sorry Bridgette im cranky *blush* I didnt mean to go on a rant... one of my pet peeves is people ripping apart DJs. The clubs I work at also sell private shows.. and the girls have to sell a min of 20 - 75 a week depending on the club... if not you pay out the club anywhere between $200 and $750 for the week depending on the clubs min.

    A lot of DJs get paid min wage or less depending on the club because of the fact that the girls are expected to tip the girls.

    I understand that yea there are times the DJ sucks and you dont think he needs to be tipped but they are trying to make a living as well.

    I dont agree with the DJ saying 'Tip me now or else' ... thats just a stupid DJ.

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    If I were a DJ and I knew the dancer in question didn't make any money, I would not accept a tip from her. That is how most of the DJs I've worked with have been. The ONE who demanded a tip and house fee (even though it was optional most of the time) on a $30 night, got NOTHING from me from then on, because OPTIONAL meant if I hated how he treated me, I don't have to tip. He ruined his chances at getting more money from me, over a measly $5 or $10.

    I appreciate what DJs do. I know they have a lot to deal with sometimes. Their job may or may not be all that difficult, but I have never been in their shoes, so I can't say what they deal with every night. I show them the same amount of respect they show me. A little small talk while I'm waiting to go on stage, a pleasant stage intro, and a smile when I walk in the door goes a long way.

    I tip really well when I have a good night...to EVERYONE, including the managers. But they all know that when I just don't have it, they won't accept it, because I make a conscious effort to show my appreciation for their efforts. At my club, the tip out for staff is $1 for every dance I do. If I get 5 dances, I will give up my $5 to each person who deserves it. Most of them wont' take it because they know that if I get 30 dances, I will tip at least $45. The math is simple. The money flows when it's there. There's no need to try and squeeze blood from a stone. And yes, like Bridgette, DJs who "forget" to put me in the rotation a few times get MORE $$$ from me. Fuck that DJ, man. He sucks.

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    WOW!


    Well I can see the Dj love is flowing in here.

    Well i am not gonna jump into this any further but I will say this. There are always going to be Dj's that are shitty and greedy. But there will also be a handful of good ones. Just as there will always be dancers that HATE dj's (and some sound quite bitter for some reason) and there will be those that love them. And of course some will never see why a dj is important to a club. Everyone has a right to their opinon. I am sure that debate will continue forever. I dunno, i take care of my girls, they like me and i make great money. Works for me

    But i have to agree there are some really bad dj's out there, course clubs get what they pay for.

    Oh one more thing, my club is in the states and girls make great money on stage and occasionally I have to coax them up there.

    Everyone have a great night

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    The only time a DJ has helped make me money is when he lets me skip my stage set because I am busy doing lap dances. In most clubs I work at, I am not allowed to do this. But once in a while, the DJ will make an exception. It makes me more money and the club more money to have me continue doing lap dances rather than go on stage because most places where I work take $5 or $10 from each dance. When the DJ lets me skip my stage set (rarely), then I will give him a good tip above and beyond the minimum.

    I always try to give the DJ something though, unless I have a really bad night. If a dancer makes $50 or less on a certain shift through no fault of her own, I don't think she should have to give the DJ anything. Shitty nights happen. Sometimes there are just really shitty nights and you can't do anything about it. I made $30 one night last winter because we had a snowstorm but the manager decided to remain open. There were 10 guys through the door all night, if that. And every last one of them was cheap.

    There was one club I worked at where we weren't required to tip the DJ anything. We worked 11 hour shifts, so we had 2 DJ's each day-an opening DJ and a closing DJ. Unless I had a terrible night, I gave each of them at least $5. I would tip more if I had an above average night. Some of the dancers there were so cheap and would never tip the DJ anything. One of my favorite DJs ended up quitting because he got fed up with the girls not tipping him. And he was a damn good DJ too.

    If I had a terrible night at the aforementioned club (I consider under $100 for an 11 hour shift terrible), then I would explain to the DJ that I had a bad night and I would take care of him tomorrow. I never had any of them get pissy at me for doing that.

    It has been my experience that most customers don't really listen to the DJ. I have worked in clubs with a DJ and clubs that have no DJ, just a jukebox. I make just as much in stage tips at the jukebox clubs as I do in the clubs with a DJ. I agree that there are some awesome DJ's out there and I have been fortunate enough to work with a couple of them. However, most of the ones I have worked with don't put forth that much effort and just say a generic "Let's hear it for so-and-so" after each song.

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    Alexis81, I have to ask-are the other dancers making such little money at your club, or are you the only one? If everyone is doing that terrible, find a new club. Everyone has shitty nights, but 2 nights under $10 in a row? And on the weekend? Yikes, I hope it gets better.

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    When I talked to Bridgette we were laughing about this thread, and I told her I wanted to post more here but didn't think I should.

    Why not?

    Bottom line--because I'm not a dancer, and it's called 'StripperWeb', not 'DJWeb'.

    You all really need somewhere to bitch about the bullshit you have to put up with from bad DJs, managers, bouncers, customers, etc., etc., without having to read a zillion posts by guys saying "Hey, hold on here, that's not fair! I'm not like that!" every fucking time. Which is what B and I were laughing about on my way to work.

    Of course, I was a bit of a hypocrite and did post anyway, but I tried to excercise some restraint.

    I am glad this seems to be settling itself pretty well, unlike some other controversial threads we have seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser
    Bottom line--because I'm not a dancer, and it's called 'StripperWeb', not 'DJWeb'.
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    Yeah, I got "Warned" over a year ago for sticking up for Dj's. I dont bother now...lol. I would just rather laugh at the posts too

    Djoser, btw where in Florida r U? I worked down there a few times mainly in Tampa though...

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    I was in Daytona Beach, but now I'm in Key West, an infinitely superior place to be--except for Clearwire wireless internet service, lol...
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    As a DJ since 1989 I can't disagree that most of the people in my field are morons.

    It has been refreshing to find some guys posting around here who seem to have a head on their shoulders but as a population the SCDJ's across this nation are ridiculous IMHO.

    It's pretty pathetic that after almost 17 years in this industry I still cringe a little inside when I tell people what I do. Big thanks going out to the 999,000 asshats from here to California making us look like Alchoholic Guy Smilies with egos bigger than rockstars. And what the fuck is up with wearing outfits straight out of 1984 and haircuts that look like a Billy Ray Cyrus video??? Am I the only one who notices this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!! Sorry...

    As for jukeboxes at the clubs you've been working at Bridgette, I guess these models are outfitted with some means to advertise VIP rooms & lounges (that one sounds right up your alley), advertise Champagne & Alcohol specials (probably doesn't hurt your money either), give inquiring customers suggestions regarding which young ladies to invite to VIP with them (you said you fly solo so maybe this doesn't affect you), and most of all advertise the various club amenities and upcoming club promotions like golf tournaments, trips, wine tastings, sporting events, and feature entertainers scheduled to appear?

    Please stop holding out and send me the link to this company so I can finally hang up my headphones and pursue my other interests. Please.


    To the original post regarding the DJ flipping out on you I catagorically say fuck him. Not in that Get You Some Hot Drunken Action After Work kind of way but in the Tip Him The Very Minimum From Now On kind of way.

    I guess I shouldn't complain, everytime the other DJ's at my club are dillholes I consistantly make more more money
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    As for jukeboxes at the clubs you've been working at Bridgette, I guess these models are outfitted with some means to advertise VIP rooms & lounges (that one sounds right up your alley), advertise Champagne & Alcohol specials (probably doesn't hurt your money either), give inquiring customers suggestions regarding which young ladies to invite to VIP with them (you said you fly solo so maybe this doesn't affect you), and most of all advertise the various club amenities and upcoming club promotions like golf tournaments, trips, wine tastings, sporting events, and feature entertainers scheduled to appear?
    I think Bridgette's point was, and I'll back her up on this one wholeheartedly, that even if you DO advertise drink specials and mention the champagne room, it does NIL for our own personal sales. The most it does is maybe plant a little seed in the customer's head, so that when the champagne room is brought up, it's not totally out of left feild. But even that's being generous.

    As much good as DJs might be able to do, it's invariably counteracted by just as much badness.

    Like I was at this club recently, and it was slow. The DJ kept, after every girl, saying "no one clapped! Not one guy!" over the mic. It was retarded- pointing out the obvious, making the girl on stage look dumb, and making the whole situation way more awkward than it had to be.

    He was nice, but a shitty DJ. He'd been at it for 17 years.

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