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    So tonight was my last night of this month's Phoenix work trip and of course I went to work. BAD idea

    1. 5 girls on rotation (including myself). Our Phx stripper licenses all expire on Sep 30 each year, and despite the fact that there've been reminder signs up ALL over the dressing room ALL month long, several girls didn't renew their licenses so they couldn't work tonight. Several girls tried to come in but got sent home for not having their renewed licenses. I know how flaky and stupid alot of strippers are, but sometimes it still amazes me exactly how bad it can be

    2. Fucking DJ had us doing 2 song sets (we normally do 1) with NO breaks, so with 5 girls we were literally on stage every 30 minutes. At 4 minutes per song and a couple minutes to get dressed and whatnot, that meant we had AT MOST 20 minutes tops on the floor between sets.

    3. Sunday night customers come in for lapdances. They choose to come in on Sundays because it's slower and they can get more attention from their fave girls. But we all kept having to get up off someone's lap for the fucken stage in 20 minutes or less so the spenders kept leaving - BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET THE LAPDANCES THEY CAME FOR. And the few who actually sit back and watch the stage show were leaving too, because in 1hour they'd seen all the girls TWICE, so they got bored and left.

    4. We girls were so fucken exhausted by midnight we could barely dance, and we were making fuckall because we couldn't sell more than 4 ($10) dances between sets - and that was if we were lucky.

    5. I tried to suggest to the DJ that if he would do just one break song between each girl, we could spread out the rotation more. Which would keep the stage-watchers from getting bored so fast, and the lapbuyers from leaving so fast for lack of attention, and the girls from bitching so much for being so damn tired and making fuckall! The fucking moron (who KNOWS I've danced a long fucken time and being one of the top earners ought to have a fucken clue) had the audacity to respond with: "Have you ever been in a strip club with no dancer on stage?" Me: "yes! every single one I've ever worked gives us a break song when there's fewer than 8-10 girls in order to spread it out more so the guys don't get bored so fast." He: "The customers leave if there's no girl on stage." Me: "But on Sundays, they mostly come for lapdances, and what keeps them here is having a girl on their laps, not on the stage." He: "But they'll leave if there's no girl on stage."

    UUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clearly he didn't listen to a fucking WORD I said, because, as I keep forgetting when talking to dumbass, ego-fucking-maniac, unable to get a real fucking job, male strip club staff, I'm just a fucking stripper so I can't possibly know ANYthing about the business or how to keep the customers happy

    We actually had enough guys through the door that it could've been a pretty good night, but they kept leaving because 1) in 30 minutes they'd seen every girl on stage and 2) they couldn't get a fucking dance because we had to spend so much fucking time on stage.

    So to his last idiotic statement above, I say: "But by not giving us a break you're killing us with the stage. We're all so exhausted we all want to leave. So if we all start leaving then you'll have NO girls, and that's WORSE." To that he had no response. Fucking moron. So I left the booth to go chat with a regular. One girl had apparently left in the meantime, so after 5 minutes of chatting with the VERY GOOD regular who was excited to see me after being gone for months, I was being called on standby AGAIN. Now, keep in mind we are allowed to come and go as we please at this club. If anyone actually tried to tell us we had to stay, we'd simply laugh in their faces as we walked out the door. So I went straight to the booth and crossed my name off the list, handed him $5, grabbed my CD and left. At that point it was 3 hours to closing time and he was left with 3 girls on rotation. All because he was too fucking stupid / bullheaded / ego-fucking-maniacal to listen to a stripper's suggestion to give us a mutherfucken BREAK!!!

    OMFG do I hate fucking dumbass ego-fucking-maniac DJs. Sometimes I'd like to club the fuckers over the heads because if nothing else, maybe having their last couple brain cells beat out of their heads would be just enough to turn them into completely submissive fucking monkees who'd just do as they should - which is nothing more than play the next fucking song so the strippers and customers can get their goddamn grind on!!!

    Oh yeah. I left with $75 after 2.5 hours of ass-breaking, knee-bruising fucking work when any other time I'd have had $200+ in that amount of time. This abso-fucken-lutely this WORST night I've ever had at this club.

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    I'm sorry, that really sucks. It's so frustrating when that happens and you know you could've made more money if the DJ would've just pulled his head out of his ass. I've been in a similar situation, but it was at this club that only had me and one other girl, and we did 4 song sets on stage with no break songs. So after my stage set, I only had 4 songs to do lapdances. There were actually a lot of guys who wanted dances from me and I couldn't get to all of them because I had to keep going on stage. I was so mad!

    That DJ sucked-he would've gotten a better tip from you if he had let you play break songs. Then you would've been able to do more dances, thus making you more money.

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    Yeah I had at least 3 guys wanting dances after each stage set and 2 out of 3 kept leaving because I couldn't get to them and neither could anyone else. Plus the ones I'd dance for would leave too because they wanted more dances but kept getting interrupted for the almighty stage. I know damn well the other girls were having the same problem.

    Not only would the girls have made more money, but the bar would've too by having a break song. Just one between each girl would've made a HUGE difference. The few stage-watchers wouldn't have gotten bored so fast and the lapbuyers wouldn't have been so frustrated for lack of attention. But of course as a stripper you can't tell these fucking male staff anything because THEY are so much fucking smarter and knowledgeable of this business than we (the ones who actually deal with the customers day in and day out) are.

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    "Have you ever been in a strip club with no dancer on stage?"
    Hell yes. Not so much in American clubs, but we go up to 20 minutes with no one on stage in Western Canada. Not that that's ideal either, but one break song is not too much to ask for. The customers don't leave, either. If they'll wait 20 minutes with no lapdances in Canada, I'm sure they'll wait 4 minutes with lapdances in Phoenix.

    That sucks, I feel your frustration.

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    UUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clearly he didn't listen to a fucking WORD I said, because, as I keep forgetting when talking to dumbass, ego-fucking-maniac, unable to get a real fucking job, male strip club staff, I'm just a fucking stripper so I can't possibly know ANYthing about the business or how to keep the customers happy
    Oh how I can empathise! Amen to that sista!!!

    ...Not only would the girls have made more money, but the bar would've too by having a break song. Just one between each girl would've made a HUGE difference.....
    Rhino in Melbourne does this on Sunday and Monday nights especially early in the night when there are less than a handful of dancers who have turned up since opening time (or before 9pm at the very least).

    The song break also is a great huge incentive for guys to partake of a lap dance as they then feel like they aren't missing much ... and want entertainment... so they purchase a dance... or well.. that's how I feel.

    In the end, I can totally empthaise I left a certain Rockhampton strip club years ago due to the f-ing DJ thinking he knew better than me. That because he sees it night in and night out... that he knew the business... :grrr: nothing infuriates me more than someone who has and never will ever be able to experience from our end ... "walk a mile in our shoes" (as such) thinks they know everything about the business because they see it. Not until you are us... not until you are a stripper can you ever take such a stance... and even then.. be humble.

    /end rant

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    Scarlett, oh hell yeah they will wait. All our other DJs give us a break song on days like that, and everyone is happy for it, including the customers. I just don't know why this one can't get it

    Just last Wednesday night, after 1am we had 6 customers left in the building and EVERY one of them was buying strings of lapdances. So the DJ just quit putting us on stage and kept playing songs for us to dance to. EVERY single one of us lapdanced the rest of the night. Obviously those guys couldn't have given a shit about the stage. They stayed until closing and bought whatever drinks they bought, and we all made money off the dances. As a sidenote, we pay a 10% cut of what we make to the staff tip pot. This money gets divided among all staff and the house takes a small portion of it too. So the more money we make, the more money EVERYONE makes. It is absolutely beyond me why this DJ can't figure out that giving us more time to do laps puts more money in his and everyone else's pocket. Idiot.

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    It's like I was just saying in that other thread...

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    Sounds like some of the clubs I work at in the country. 5 girls and 20 minute sets is the norm. Only in those clubs we are only up about every hour, so there is time to get dances.And dances are $20, of which we get $15. But even in those clubs, the owners are afraid to do break songs . They think having an "air stage" will make the customers leave.

    Did you try talking to the MANAGER about this, or is he just as macho as the DJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    Sounds like some of the clubs I work at in the country. 5 girls and 20 minute sets is the norm. Only in those clubs we are only up about every hour, so there is time to get dances.And dances are $20, of which we get $15. But even in those clubs, the owners are afraid to do break songs . They think having an "air stage" will make the customers leave.

    Did you try talking to the MANAGER about this, or is he just as macho as the DJ?
    That's the way it is here in NW Jersey. Only it's 15 on stage and 15 collecting stage tips. 1/2 hour to change your costume, do dances, go to the bathroom etc.

    There are no break songs and there is no such thing as an empty stage. Exhausting? Hell yeah!! Oh yeah, now I remember why I'm retired.

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    That's insane! I am so used to break songs. They are definitely the norm around here when there are less than ten girls. I hate going on stage once every hour and a half...I would lose my mind having to go up once every twenty minutes (how can they expect you to sell dances?). Miserable fucking idiot.

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    Bridgette were you working at Le Girls!? I was there and it's exactly what you are describing....
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    No it was HiLiter. And that particular DJ IS the mgr - he DJs on Sundays. I don't have a problem with him as a manager, but as a DJ........

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    Oh, I feel you. When I was in Colorado Springs, I'd be on stage every half hour if not less. There would be like 2o customers, but they'd open up all the stages (3 or 4) so you were always on. Same thing in Montana and Crazy horse during the day in Philly.

    An absolute supreme pet peeve of mine without a doubt.

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    Oh I work at the HiLiter sometimes too. I haven't gone there in a while because there seems to be a lot of drama over there....so I stayed away. I do better at Le Girls anyway cuz I have a lot of regulars and I'm really comfortable there. You should try it out if you don't mind nude clubs. THe girls do pretty well there. I usually leave with between $250-$300 on a weeknight. And this last weekend left with almost $1000! But I don't usually pull in quite that much, I did one stage that got pretty crazy, ok REALLY crazy with a bunch of drunk girls throwing $50's on the stage and all kinds of stuff, it was nuts, but you should try it, it's cool, the DJ rocks!
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    Managers and DJs; largely not bright and more attached to exerting authority than anything else. Anyone who comes in bright and with ideas beyond exerting authority eventually just get acclimated and absorb everyone else's attitude.

    Customer leave if there is a breaksong - they also leave if they can't get dances, if girls don't chat with them, and if they've seen the same 5 girls over and over in 90 minutes. So, bad situation, but cost (raise one hand); benefit (raise other).
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    Well, in this scenario the cost was outweighing the benefit. For the club and for the girls - because the customers were leaving due to boredom and lack of attention. When the other DJs work they do break songs in those situations and the customers will stay longer because they don't see the full rotation so fast and they can get some attention. Break songs, properly used, can increase the benefit to outweigh the cost by far. Generally the best way to use them is to do ONE break song between each girl, and play every song 30 seconds longer than normal (3:30 instead of 3:00 for example). This way you can spread a 30 minute rotation to almost an hour and make everyone happier.

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    I think it's more likely that a guy will leave when he realizes that he's seen every girl on stage than when he has to look at an empty stage for 3 minutes.

    I think you did the right thing by leaving. If he's going to screw with your money and make life miserable, and won't even listen to you, then don't put up with it. Don't work Sundays anymore and tell him that it's specifically because of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    Well, in this scenario the cost was outweighing the benefit. For the club and for the girls - because the customers were leaving due to boredom and lack of attention. When the other DJs work they do break songs in those situations and the customers will stay longer because they don't see the full rotation so fast and they can get some attention. Break songs, properly used, can increase the benefit to outweigh the cost by far. Generally the best way to use them is to do ONE break song between each girl, and play every song 30 seconds longer than normal (3:30 instead of 3:00 for example). This way you can spread a 30 minute rotation to almost an hour and make everyone happier.
    Well, I was agreeing with you. I don't argue with people ALL the time. Just, you know, mostly. For the record, - on stage every 20 minutes, I would kill a motherfucker.
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    Ahhh..... I have the same problem whenever I work Happy Hour during the week. We are down to having 5-6 girls for that time each day, and they will only play a break song if its real slow (only early on mondays for the most part). It gets very aggravating, esp when guys are coming up to you on stage and you have 2 choices when you get down:
    1. Go say hi and dance for a couple of them, and have the other get pissy because you "blew them off" OR
    2. Try to get to every single one ( do not brush your hair after getting off stage, or pee, orr touch up your face, etc.) and they will still be a little pissy because all you can really do is say hello, ready for your dance??

    I hope this straightens out quickly for you, since it seems your club usually has an ample amount of girls and these problems don't come up too much.....GOOD LUCK!
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    Oh, I will definitely be avoiding Sundays and I WILL tell him why. I can't keep my mouth shut on stuff like that.

    Jenny, I guess I thought you were saying they see an empty stage for one song as costing them money. Obviously this guy does LOL. Not that I thought you were trying to argue. But you know I like to argue too

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    That sucks. I hate anybody with stupid egos. Get it through your fucktard head that you are WRONG. Ugh. Hope no one tipped him.

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