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    on friday and saturday nights my club (probably the smallest in the city) gets so packed with people that it's hard to walk around without bumping into anyone. it's also very loud and there are almost no places to sit. any tips on making sales in this kind of environment? i feel overwhelmed as to what to do in this situation.

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    Strut yourself around the room, watch out the corner of your eye for someone checking you out, move in for the kill. Introduce, brief chitchat and pop the question. It's the perfect wannadance situation.

    My club is like this most of the time, and I use it to my advantage. There's at least 3 guys in the room just dying for a dance from me at any given time. Like shooting fish in a barrel. You work the crowd to your advantage - as soon as you make your first sale it pretty much snowballs because others will see you're "wanted" and will want you too.

    When I first hit the floor I'll take a walk around the room to scope out potential targets. Then basically just line them up and approach them in the order of, from whom you think you'll make the most money first. And go from there.

    I strut around the room when I first arrive like all those guys are just dying for my attention and I have to pick which one I'll grace with my presence first. I of course don't treat guys like that but I kind of take on that mentality when walking around and it works! Guys believe what you project. If you get nervous and overwhelmed in crowds it will show and they won't like you. So act like they're all there for you and it will start to actually seem that way Look at the crowd as MORE money because that's exactly what it is - be happy it's there and you'll have an easy night. Who cares if you're bumping into people and they're bumping into you? That's part of the party scene so you need to roll with it. Laugh when you and another girl bump into each other while trying to dance. Giggle and make a smartass remark about how you just KNOW the guy hates it when you accidentally bump your ass into him. Stupid stuff like that makes you the fun sexy girl that practically everyone in the crowd wants a dance from.

    I LOVE a crowded strip club!! It means more money.

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    Default Re: crowded club...how to sell?

    i wish my club was like that...instead we have an 8:1 ratio, 8 being the girls, 1 being the guy-and that's on a friday. sucks right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by papillonluvr
    i wish my club was like that...instead we have an 8:1 ratio, 8 being the girls, 1 being the guy-and that's on a friday. sucks right now...
    I think that is what she meant!
    On weekends in my club, there can be 20 girls for every man. On nights like this, it's almost impossible to stand out it the crowd. I'm gonna have to start wearing bright pink/orange/lime green so that guys can see me.

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    Bridgette's right. When it's busy, it's a seller's market. Don't just wander from table to table doing the "wanna dance" thing rather you should be sizing up potential customers off of quality not quantity.

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    it also depends on what you are selling. A dance at 10 or so is easier to sell then a dance at
    $ 20 which is easier to sell then a dance at $30.

    It is unlikely that anyone will have a huge long list of men to dance for at a 30 dollar and up dance club. You basically have to catch eyes and look for men that have money. See what they are tipping waitresses and get a tip off from the valet of who is driving what.

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    Strut yourself around the room, watch out the corner of your eye for someone checking you out, move in for the kill. Introduce, brief chitchat and pop the question. It's the perfect wannadance situation.
    This works well. I generally prefer to approach dancers, but the last time I was at OGs in Vegas, the place was packed and that's how I met a top five ATF. I couldn't say no--very glad I didn't. Ahem.
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    Bridgette is so right, as always. When things are busy, you can speed your hustle up considerably. In fact, you HAVE to, if you want to capitalize on the crowd. Don't make this an excuse to do a spiritless wannadance, but be more aware than ever that you can make or break a sale in the first couple of second. Walk up to the customer, say hi, introduce yourself, and smile. If you do this with confidence and sexiness, that should be just about all it takes. On a night like this, if a guy is playing hard to get, you may very well be better off bailing and finding an easier sale than wasting your time coaxing him.

    I also get overwhelmed on busy nights, and it helps me to give myself breaks every so often to go back to the dressing room and regroup. I also use that to motivate myself to sell -- every five dances I sell, I get a ten minute break, or something like that.

    Look for the customers who are actually spending money, tipping the stage, getting dances, versus the window-shoppers who come out on weekends. Often a guy sitting by himself on a weekend will get ignored by dancers and make an easy sale.

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    Yep yep, I'd have to agree. I personally can't stand working weekends for this very reason, but when I do, I use the exact same method.

    It's fast paced and you have be aware of whats going on...watching the tables with groups who are buying lots of dances from different girls, watching the guys who look like they're going to break their neck trying to look at the girls walking around, and then the guy sitting by himself in the middle of the mayhem....

    The fast paced hustle isn't really what I am good at, and I don't make as much money on the weekends as I do during the week really,,,strange though. But I watch the girls that work the floor on weekends and they don't stop moving!

    good luck to you!




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    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer
    it also depends on what you are selling. A dance at 10 or so is easier to sell then a dance at
    $ 20 which is easier to sell then a dance at $30.

    It is unlikely that anyone will have a huge long list of men to dance for at a 30 dollar and up dance club. You basically have to catch eyes and look for men that have money. See what they are tipping waitresses and get a tip off from the valet of who is driving what.
    Wellllll....this isn't always true. In fact, sometimes it's the exact opposite. It all depends on your presentation. I'm reminded of a friend of mine who used to sell a personal development seminar of his for $495.00. He thought about it and thought about it and decided at one presentation he was making and selling this program that he would bump the price up to $1,495.00...essentially tripling the price. Not only did he get better customers, he actually increased his closing ratio by almost 2X simply because he changed the perceived value of the program a bit. Same seminar, triple the price and twice the sales. That's a 600% increase in income because he raised the price and along with it the value. Now, this isn't to say that you should be charging $1000.00 a dance because the market is not willing to bear it and yet at $20 or even $30, it still is. Granted you won't be getting as many takers as you will at $10 but which would you say is better?

    1. Selling 20 dances at $10 a piece or;
    2. Selling 15 dances at $20 a piece.

    All it takes it being a monster at sales and looking harder for the quality customers not the quantity of customers. In addition, always under promise and over deliver and you'll hit nothing but home runs every time.

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    ^ Agreed. I used to sell FIFTY dollar dances (hi, remember me? We even talked about this at your seminar!) and even thought I'd only sell 8-10 dances a night I'd still be making $500. A girl could sell twenty dances and leave with a grand there. And it happened quite often. It wasn't sold as a lapdance, though. "Nude, full-contact bed dances!" When presented like that men were like, "Oh okay!" It just SEEMED more worth the money, usually.

    And even though I sold less dances than the girl at the titty bar ($20 dances, 20 dances) I still made more money.

    Kinda miss that club a little. It had more potential than I thought now that I work here. :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan

    And even though I sold less dances than the girl at the titty bar ($20 dances, 20 dances) I still made more money.

    Kinda miss that club a little. It had more potential than I thought now that I work here. :/

    ...And here's the best part...you're making more money for less work. How cool is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    ...And here's the best part...you're making more money for less work. How cool is that?
    Bah humbug!

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    thanks for the tips.

    the problem i have with my club is that the stage is set up against a wall and most of the chairs are facing the stage like in a theatre, so it's hard to get through in the aisles to talk to people. or maybe they go there to avoid getting hustled.

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    Just step through the aisles anyway. That's all you can do. Must get past that feeling intimidated and turn it into something more like "I love a packed house because it means more money!" My Seattle club is like that with the weird theater-style seating. The guys aren't sitting there to avoid being hustled; they're sitting there because that's where the seats are and they want to watch the girls.

    I found myself a nice little vantage point where I could stand briefly and wiggle to the music while sucking the straw of my soda/water and look for targets. It was kinda to the side of the stage but not too close that I'd piss off the dancer there, but where I could see pretty much every guy in the room and make eyes at them if I caught them checking me out. Then of course I'd slide up to them and do my brief intro-chat-ask for the dance.

    Never stand around too long though; you don't want to look too available, bored or unpopular/unbusy. If you don't quickly spot someone checking you out while standing there, then locate the ones you think have the most money to spend and go for them, in the order of highest potential to lowest. And don't get bothered if someone tells you no - there's so many guys in the room it doesn't matter. Keep asking until you get a yes.

    There's always a way to work the room, no matter the setup. You just have to get a little creative sometimes to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    Wellllll....this isn't always true. In fact, sometimes it's the exact opposite. It all depends on your presentation. I'm reminded of a friend of mine who used to sell a personal development seminar of his for $495.00. He thought about it and thought about it and decided at one presentation he was making and selling this program that he would bump the price up to $1,495.00...essentially tripling the price. Not only did he get better customers, he actually increased his closing ratio by almost 2X simply because he changed the perceived value of the program a bit. Same seminar, triple the price and twice the sales. That's a 600% increase in income because he raised the price and along with it the value. Now, this isn't to say that you should be charging $1000.00 a dance because the market is not willing to bear it and yet at $20 or even $30, it still is. Granted you won't be getting as many takers as you will at $10 but which would you say is better?

    1. Selling 20 dances at $10 a piece or;
    2. Selling 15 dances at $20 a piece.

    All it takes it being a monster at sales and looking harder for the quality customers not the quantity of customers. In addition, always under promise and over deliver and you'll hit nothing but home runs every time.



    You really cant compare a strip club sale to a seminar sale. Seriously. At a higher price you will always sell less then a lower price. It DOESN'T mean you will make less however.

    Of course if you are the best looking one or the best dancer you will always have an edge over competition, BUT that doesn't mean you are what everyone is looking for and some men do have a budget.


    AT my club dance/vip prices are set and everyone is selling the same thing. Because we sell a dance dor 15 dollars more does not mean we will get a better clientele, lol.

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