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    Now, don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what Mark Foley did with underaged boys online, but something is alittle annoying and deceiving. They keep calling him a pedophile. I believe technically you have to be involved with children under 12 to get branded that name. They keep referring to 16 year old boys as children. They are not children! Like I said, I don't support or stand by him doing this and being the ultimate hypocrite, but why is the media putting false words out there?

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    My personal definition of a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. Otherwise you're just a scumbag.

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    I agree, and that's generally under the age of 12. I believe he was even the age of consent in his state.

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    My thoughts exactly. It's inappropriate, but he's not a pedophile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sc0101
    I believe he was even the age of consent in his state.
    Oh, jeez, then what's the fuss about? It's still damn creepy IMO but if the state thinks the "child" is old enough to have sex then... *confused*

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    I think 12 is pushing it though. I would consider a child 14 and under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten
    Oh, jeez, then what's the fuss about? It's still damn creepy IMO but if the state thinks the "child" is old enough to have sex then... *confused*
    Because he is a major hypocrite, a major political person, and a way to get news viewers, among other things.

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    Oh but of course! Forgot those little bitty details.

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    I agree, that word is cheapened when you throw it around too much. Was he wrong? Yes. Is he a pedophile? Come on man...no, just based on an attraction to a 16 year old.

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    I haven't heard the word 'pedophilia' used in the press yet.

    I have heard the word 'children' used. And in this case, they are children. I have also heard the term 'statutory rape' used. And in this case, if he did have sexual contact with any of the boys, it would be statutory rape.

    Parents sent their children to Washington to be a page working under a Congressman. It's a program that was established in 1820 as an opportunity for parents to send their kids to Washington for a wonderful learning experience. They've entrusted their kids to Capitol Hill.

    This is worse than a teacher taking advantage of a student. These kids are sent to Washington just to work for the Congressman. Then the Congressman uses his position to intimidate the kids into this sick type of relationship. Some might be excited willing participants, but certainly the one who turned him in felt intimidated and sickened by Foley's behavior.


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    slate.com:
    ephebophilia, which is defined as a sexual attraction to post-pubescent adolescents and older teenagers.
    he's an ephebophile.

    District of Columbia, age of consent = 16.

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    I agree Sc0101.

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    When I was 14 I dated a 19 year old. He sure as hell was not a pedofile. I was very mature for my age and WANTED to date him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by space_Cadet_28
    slate.com:
    ephebophilia, which is defined as a sexual attraction to post-pubescent adolescents and older teenagers.
    he's an ephebophile.

    District of Columbia, age of consent = 16.

    And so are millions of other men attracted to 17, 18, 19 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    I haven't heard the word 'pedophilia' used in the press yet.

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    I have heard it twice. I think it was quickly nipped in the bud though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrustratedBunny
    When I was 14 I dated a 19 year old. He sure as hell was not a pedofile. I was very mature for my age and WANTED to date him.
    Yeah but most guys of 19 act like 14 year olds so you were probably on an even keel, lol.

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    The girl who used fake ID, which meant that I was arrested (long story, there is a thread in it) was 17 and a half. So if she hadnt been caught till after xmas, I would never have had all these legal problems!

    I dont see how 17 1/2 (16 is age of consent here) is so much younger than 18, yet she was technically a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexy_celeste
    The girl who used fake ID, which meant that I was arrested (long story, there is a thread in it) was 17 and a half. So if she hadnt been caught till after xmas, I would never have had all these legal problems!

    I dont see how 17 1/2 (16 is age of consent here) is so much younger than 18, yet she was technically a child.
    Minor yes, child no in my opinion.

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    The whole age of consent vs age of majority thing is to protect adults in the 18-20 range who have sex with a 16-17 year old. Legally a 16 year old is a child, a 17 year old is a child. Foley was in his fifties, many kids and their parents complained and he kept up his advances anyway. If he'd only waited to contact these kids at 18 they'd be "fair game".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    The whole age of consent vs age of majority thing is to protect adults in the 18-20 range who have sex with a 16-17 year old. Legally a 16 year old is a child, a 17 year old is a child. Foley was in his fifties, many kids and their parents complained and he kept up his advances anyway. If he'd only waited to contact these kids at 18 they'd be "fair game".

    Minor, yes, child, that is for debate

    child  /tʃaɪld/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[chahyld] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun, plural chil‧dren.
    1. a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl: books for children.
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    4. a human fetus.
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    8. a person regarded as conditioned or marked by a given circumstance, situation, etc.: a child of poverty; a child of famine.
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    The term "child" is used correctly in this context. These are children sent by their parents to live in dorms hosted by Congress to learn and work for them.

    When discussing the appropriateness of this older guy going after "children", everyone is acknowledging that the parents have consented to grant the care of their children to the leaders in Washington, and expect those leaders to respect their children.

    In the grand scheme of things, this is little worse than a teacher going after a student. However, the stage is much bigger and the players much fewer. Those who knew anything about this, were in positions to do something about it, and didn't take serious action share some of the guilt.


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    Are we being a little biased here? I remember a thread recently about a 13 year old girl who was gang-banged, supposedly by her own choice. The offenders (of mixed ages) were arrested, and the consensus was that this was appropriate, since a 13 year old cannot give consent.

    I, myself, got my period when I was 11. Should the age of puberty be the age of consent?

    Is a 16 year old boy so much more mature than a 13 year old girl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartcookie
    Are we being a little biased here? I remember a thread recently about a 13 year old girl who was gang-banged, supposedly by her own choice. The offenders (of mixed ages) were arrested, and the consensus was that this was appropriate, since a 13 year old cannot give consent.

    I, myself, got my period when I was 11. Should the age of puberty be the age of consent?

    Is a 16 year old boy so much more mature than a 13 year old girl?
    Well I believe by law, yes, a 16 year old can give consent in the state he was in. As for the 13 year old, well, that's alittle closer to line in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azcustomer
    The term "child" is used correctly in this context. These are children sent by their parents to live in dorms hosted by Congress to learn and work for them.

    When discussing the appropriateness of this older guy going after "children", everyone is acknowledging that the parents have consented to grant the care of their children to the leaders in Washington, and expect those leaders to respect their children.

    In the grand scheme of things, this is little worse than a teacher going after a student. However, the stage is much bigger and the players much fewer. Those who knew anything about this, were in positions to do something about it, and didn't take serious action share some of the guilt.
    Yes, they are a child to a parent, if referred to by the parent, according to dictionary.com. Like a parent could say "my child was molested", but I don't think that rule applies to a non related news caster.

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    No offense,

    but I find this whole scheme to make a 16 year your old a consenting anything to a 50 + year old gross.

    we're you in a weird relationship with an older guy as a teenager?

    been there done that, still don't have to make other kids culpable

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