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    so i've run into a problem at work. i've noticed that i sell the most dances when i get off stage, or when i was just giving a dance to someone else. the problem is, the club i'm at right now has a long rotation, so i don't go on stage often. when i haven't sold a dance yet, it seems to be that much harder for me to sell one. i've noticed that the vast majority of guys i sit down and talk with, turn me down for dances. this was not the case at my old club. i would talk with a guy for 30minutes or so and then he would buy 10-20 dances in a row. it seems like i'm getting a lot of the "you're too smart/nice/whatever" bullshit. i have a feeling that most of it is due to my fairly boyish personality. i don't look like a boy, but i can come across as one in conversation. i've tried to act a bit more femme recently, but it always comes off as uncomfortable or fake. i also tried "dumbing myself down" but that's not easy for me either. (note: i know i don't use capital letters... it's on purpose ) this didn't tend to happen at my old club, but recently i feel like guys are picking the super fake type girls over me. i've also been told that i'm intimidating. i'm not doing anything different! it's like night and day with the reactions since i changed clubs. i want to know how i can talk less and make a sale, or get out of there quick if it's obviously not going to happen. guys either seem put off by me or they really "get along" with me.. laugh/joke/etc and then they get a dance from someone else. i also get lots of the "i want to see you dance first" shit at this club. i've been reading some of the threads on how to deal with it, since i never got that at the old place (shorter rotation). anyway, sorry this post rambled on. any help you can give would be great.


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    Try making yourself more unavailable, like sitting down like you are gonna hang out for awhile, and then you have to suddenly rush off, and then stop just for a second on your way to someone else etc, ... instead of hanging out, leave them hanging.... just something to try maybe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    Try making yourself more unavailable, like sitting down like you are gonna hang out for awhile, and then you have to suddenly rush off, and then stop just for a second on your way to someone else etc, ... instead of hanging out, leave them hanging.... just something to try maybe..
    i do that sometimes. i always try to look busy, i know that looking like you were just waiting to pounce on someone is bad.. so i try to avoid it.

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    Are you still talking to them for thirty minutes? That might be it.

    Or bribe the DJ to go on stage more. That's what I did at a club that had heavy stage-money-making ability.


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    Don't talk for so long. Sounds like a club where you do more of a hit and run type hustle. Make it more brief, like pop the question by the second song. See if that helps.

    My Seattle club was like that and I managed to make money by keeping the chat super brief (ask within one song) and moving on quickly if I got a no. Also, spend a couple minutes strutting around the room like you're the shit and watch for potential targets, guys eyeing you and approach them first. Once I get one sale it's pretty easy from there. It sounds like you work similarly, but slower. I think you should speed it up for this club.

    The guys may not buy as many dances in a row but if you speed up the pace you can still sell just as many dances by hitting more guys.

    Or, if it's just not working for you at that club, maybe go back to the other one. Some clubs just aren't for me, or you, or whoever.

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    i don't normally talk that long (i did at my old club because that's just how it works there) it just seems lately like any talking is hindering me. as far as bribing the dj goes, there's a standard rotation. he's not allowed to change it. if he did he'd have the manager, and every girl on the floor bitching at him.

    all the advice has been great so far though. i know i need to "speed it up" i just have no idea what to say, or more specifically what i'm saying (or how i'm saying it) that isn't working.

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    I've posted alot about how I do the speed-hustle...

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    You are trying to adjust to one of the best gentelman clubs in Tampa. Men there go normally for the barbie type. I worked there for a while 2 years ago and moved on.

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    Bridgette has indeed posted her speed-hustle techniques many times...probably worth doing a search for them. I think the best advice I ever got was from a crazy girl I work with..."you just gots to get out there and hit it."

    Seriously, in a club where sit-n-talk isn't the norm, it can actually turn many customers off. They want to see boobs, not sit and talk about their day or your pets or any of that. Unless you get the vibe that they really *enjoy* talking to you, and talking is building rapport, don't wait more than a song or two to ask. When I switched from a slow-hustle club to a high-hustle last spring, my approach was so off for the new place that I actually had a customer ask me to stop talking and go away. Mortifying, but educational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer
    You are trying to adjust to one of the best gentelman clubs in Tampa. Men there go normally for the barbie type. I worked there for a while 2 years ago and moved on.
    the only thing i have that "barbie" it's the fact that i'm thin with some curves. although, i have made a good ammount of sales there just for being the only redhead. i've been requested specifically because of it.

    one other thing i don't know how to avoid in this club, is hitting guys up when they first get there. generally i try to avoid doing so, because the guy always seems like "jesus, i just got here lemme have a drink" ... which i understand. however, i don't want to let another girl get to them first either. it's hard to know when exactly to make the move.

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    You can barbie up in your choice of costumes. I barbie up at some clubs by wearing all one color bikini and dress or gown or booty shorts. Get a little white or silver purse and white, silver or pastel heels. Think pink or white or baby blue... A giirle hater-custie called out "hey barbeeeee". I just smiled because the guys like that simple sweet look. Try a new ensemble or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    You can barbie up in your choice of costumes. I barbie up at some clubs by wearing all one color bikini and dress or gown or booty shorts. Get a little white or silver purse and white, silver or pastel heels. Think pink or white or baby blue... A giirle hater-custie called out "hey barbeeeee". I just smiled because the guys like that simple sweet look. Try a new ensemble or two.
    it's a gown club and we aren't allowed to carry purses but i know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny
    the only thing i have that "barbie" it's the fact that i'm thin with some curves. although, i have made a good ammount of sales there just for being the only redhead. i've been requested specifically because of it.

    one other thing i don't know how to avoid in this club, is hitting guys up when they first get there. generally i try to avoid doing so, because the guy always seems like "jesus, i just got here lemme have a drink" ... which i understand. however, i don't want to let another girl get to them first either. it's hard to know when exactly to make the move.

    would love to give you some pointers but i wont work there anymore because of the floor host. The short hair.. eh, i despise her.

    But hey.. if you ever want to check out the cheetah in sarasota i am game.

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    i've never worked with a female floor host. maybe she doesn't work there anymore? i would try out cheetah every once in awhile, but its sooooooo soooooo far. hour and 1/2 each way. :/ maybe i'll go when it's more "season" so it's more likely to be worth the drive. too bad it's in saraosta too.. i don't think there's much to do there on the weekend.

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    At my club girls never seem to want to go on stage so I will ask if I can go on.... Exspecially on slow days I rather be practicing my pole/floor work then sitting in the dressing room or something.

    I think my manager thinks I'm crazy...

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    I used to do that too CG. I was a better dancer than hustler then and if i had already tapped everyoen in the place I figure I may as well get on stage,

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    CG: Most of the dancers don't like the rate of tipping the stage in the daytime there. It is a way to be seen and will allow you to meet more customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny
    i've never worked with a female floor host. maybe she doesn't work there anymore? i would try out cheetah every once in awhile, but its sooooooo soooooo far. hour and 1/2 each way. :/ maybe i'll go when it's more "season" so it's more likely to be worth the drive. too bad it's in saraosta too.. i don't think there's much to do there on the weekend.

    so go down there for 3 or 4 days and get a hotel room. thats what you do when you travel to dance *wink*

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    i usually can't do that because of school.

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