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    Angry I got right royally screwed tonight...

    Firstly the set up in my club: 1hr booking $500 (AUD we are talking). There is a specific 1hour VIP room in my club in which you can use, however you have to pay the club $100 to use it. If you go in this room you obviously have more privacy and you dont have to do your stage shows. Usually i just go into my own booth though when i have an hour booking which doesn’t guaranty as much privacy but i can pocket the whole amount and if i am unlucky enough to be called on stage then i just tell the guy to come watch me and resume our hr once i have finished my set. Most usually dont have a problem with the way i run it.

    Tonight 3 guys came into our club and wanted to book myself and 2 other girls for an hour. Cool i thought i would do the right thing and take all the girls and guys up to the VIP hour room however the club for some reason had all this lighting and camera shit stored in the room and it was out of use for the night. So a waitress took us down onto the floor and tried to find us a room. Anyway after some dicking around we finally got into our room and started dancing. 15 min later she comes in an interrupts us so she can get the guys to pay (usually the pay at the start of our dances but tonight i was assuming they were just paying at the end cos they were big spenders). So that is all sorted finally. Now in my club its the waitresses job to come and tell you when the hr is up. 80min later she comes in and tells us its over. So in the end it turns out that we have wasted about an extra 30 min on top of the hr we have spent with these guys with all the dicking around.

    Then my manager has the ordacity to tell each of us girls to pay the $100 fee for being booked for an hour! I fly off the handle saying no way am i paying as when i pay that fee it is for a service i.e. having the privet room and having a waitress come tell me when the hr is suppose to be up on the hr which she didnt do. He gets all up in my face saying the waitress found you a room and eventually came in and told you when your time was up and we also made sure no one else came in that room while you girls were all booked in there so therefore you owe us the money. I had a massive fight with him ((( might i add here that the bastard had been drinking so heavily that his eyes were all bloodshot while he was screaming at me ))) we both yell and swore like idiots, i threw the money at his face and stormed out.

    I'm so god damn pissed off. There was no way i could stay on for the rest of the shit in the mood i was in. So I just got out of there. Am i out of line here? I did get screwed here i am not just PMSing am i.....?!

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    I'm confused....so normally you'd have to pay the $100, but you didn't want to because it took so long to find the room and settle up the tab?

    Is that the only way the club makes money on the private rooms? Did you still get paid? How long have you been at this club?

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    Normally if i was in the VIP room for a hour i would of had to pay the $100. But we WERENT in the VIP room we were in a normal room on the floor. I dont want to pay because we werent given the specific VIP room because the club had their shit in there (unprofessional IMO) and the waitress took so long to settling the tab and tellin us when our hr was up.

    No the club makes money all different ways off the girls. The VIP rooms is just another way they try to sting us for money. In the end i got paid $370 for 90min (i also didnt mention the 10% the also take from me when i am cashing in my dollars but that is compulsory anyway) I been at the club for 3 years now.... You think they would look after a house girl would you.... No. Not at my club. They just want to sting you for all they can....

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    Default Re: I got right royally screwed tonight...

    well, I don't think you got royally screwed, just mildly. You made the same as you would have if you had the correct room. I'd be mad at the waitress for being a flake if I was going to be mad at anyone. But if they pre-paid, couldn't you end it after an hour yourself?

    Honestly, I don't see why you'd think you'd get out of paying it. It sounds more like a club cut, no matter how you define it. Everyone wants theirs. At least they didn't say you coudn't do the VIP at all.

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    Usually i would make $500 an hour flat not $370 for 90 mins.

    I did the right thing by organising it with the club/manager/waitress and they couldnt provide us the facility of using the VIP room. The facility wasnt given to me (we used the ordinary room) + the service was shitty so I dont think we should of had to pay.

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    I think you got kind of screwed. I figure you got 50% of the quality you should have, so you should have had to pay 50% of the fee. I also think managers should refrain from getting drunk and screaming at people - dancers or customers. Got a manager shot at a club I waitressed at.

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    Could it be she let the time go a little longer to try not to piss off the guys because she interrupted earlier? If she knew they were big spenders, mayber there was hope that they'd buy another hour. If they felt like they were screwed, they most definitely would not keep spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee
    Could it be she let the time go a little longer to try not to piss off the guys because she interrupted earlier? If she knew they were big spenders, mayber there was hope that they'd buy another hour. If they felt like they were screwed, they most definitely would not keep spending.
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    I work in Australia too and you CANNOT depend on the waitress. Obviously you knew you were over time otherwise you wouldn't have noticed. You were paid. End it or ask the guys if they want more.


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    I wear a watch and have it on at all times when I'm working. I do not depend on anyone to let me know when my time was up or I'd end up being over all the time otherwise. Go out and buy yourself and watch with like a silver metal band and wear the watch face part on your wrist. That way it looks like a bracelet instead of a watch. It's nice having one because you can keep your eye on the clock all night long so you know how much longer you have, like when I look at the clock I'll say to myself "Ok, I've got exactly 2 hours left in the night, I can still make such in such" and it always helps me stay on track with my VIP times. When I am in VIP what I'll do is when there's about 10 min left, I'll casually let the customer know that we've got about 10 more min, how about we continue for another hour.

    The only part that I don't like is that you have to pay $100 to rent the room, IMO, the customer should have to pay that. That's how it's done at my club. You could try getting a good tip out of the VIP's you have to help cover the $100 fee. I do agree that you did get kinda screwed if you weren't technically in the VIP room that has the fee, if you were in an area of the club where you were sitting with some semi privacy, then you shouldn't have gotten charged for it, the club should've thought ahead of time and gotten their shit out that room, I mean, that room is how the club makes their money! It's not up to you to pay them for not being organized with their stuff!

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    Now if the manager wanted to charge you $150 because you were in there 90 minutes, then I'd say you got fucked over.

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    Yeah you got screwed over. You didn't get use of the room you were SUPPOSED to get for the $100, you got a room that's normally "free". So to charge you for a "free" room is BS.

    And to claim that the waitress did anything to deserve payment is also BS. She left you for the first 15 minutes when she's supposed to collect up front, AND she left you for an extra 20 minutes before coming to stop the time. Total bullshit and I would NOT have paid them a cent when storming out. Would've just stormed out and kept the money. Fuck them.

    I get tired of reading how girls have to do EVERYthing to take care of business themselves, but continue to pay more and more to the clubs for basically nothing. WTF is up with you girls who think we owe the clubs anything when they give us CRAP??

    Yeah, we get the use of the building. But increasingly, the clubs DON'T advertise or market the club at all, DON'T provide us with security, DON'T provide us with the agreed-upon facilities/services, DON'T provide us with a decent dressing room or TAKE AWAY DR space for club expansion, DON'T provide us with any backup when dealing with problem customers and DON'T do anything to provide us with a decent customer base from which we can make a decent living, but always keep their grubby fucking hands out for MORE money. A girl has to stand up for herself sometimes instead of keep bending over for these assholes.

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    ^^^^ AMEN to that!

    OK so once i calmed down, i went in to see another manager to talk to him about how pissed off i was about it all. He's informed me that there’s been some dodgy shit going on with this other manager (who charged us for the room) and told me that when ever he charges me in the future i should ask for a receipt because there has been some suspicion that this other manager has been charging girls then pocketing the cash (plus I can claim the charge as a tax deduction). But how fucked is that, that the manager has been pocketing girls money?! They haven’t been able to prove that he has been doing it yet but if he gets caught he will be fired. That was at least a little relief for me to hear.

    So i dont know about other countries but for those girls in Australia. If you get fined or have to pay some stupid charge for VIP in where the money goes to the house, always ask for a receipt cos apparently you can claim that charge on tax too.

    I suppose everything happens for a reason. I just worked out why this all happened to me. To learn this bit of information. Thanks for the support girls. oxoxo

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    Good on ya!! It pays to open your mouth and speak up for yourself in this business. Otherwise you just get walked on and screwed over 6 ways from Sunday.

    Yes, in the US, any money we pay to the club is tax deductible. Only problem is, at most clubs they WON'T give us a receipt, so obviously they're not claiming the money, or at least not all of it. So rather than dick around with it, I just report what I walk out of the club with on my taxes, and deduct appropriate stuff that I buy OTC (and get receipts for that stuff).

    I have worked in clubs where a manager or bouncer was charging girls for bullshit and pocketing the money. Eventually they get caught and fired. Definitely make sure you make them give you a receipt from now on, and if they give you any lip about it, refer to the manager who told you to do so, and let them take it up with him. But do NOT, under any circumstances, hand over anymore cash without getting a receipt.

    That is the ONLY good thing I have to say about Deja Vu clubs - they give a receipt for the fees we pay.

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