So I have an adult entertainer card.. Im sooo confused so can someone set me straight?
Is this on my record somewhere?
Can anyone find out if I have a liscence?
Can future employees find out if I have one?
Thank you!! :o)
So I have an adult entertainer card.. Im sooo confused so can someone set me straight?
Is this on my record somewhere?
Can anyone find out if I have a liscence?
Can future employees find out if I have one?
Thank you!! :o)
Last edited by Lizzybethers; 10-14-2006 at 01:49 AM.
I choose to live, not just exist
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
This information would be made available if you have a background check done.


Venus,
I've been told that it depends on the state.
For instance, in Atlanta, I have actually called the office of permits to ask whether or not this kind of permit shows up in a background search. They told me that it does not come up if someone runs a background check.
HOWEVER, the fact that you have this license IS a matter of public record. Anyone could pop into the office to see whether or not you ever had it. So yes, future employers could see it and other people could find out about it too.
But this is just for Atlanta, Georgia, and furthermore, I don't even know if the permit specifically says "dancer" as bartenders, bar backs, security, etc...everyone who works in an adult establishment must have a license.
Whether or not it will actually matters depends on what kind of job you're looking for. As a teacher, could it negatively affect you? Yes, it could. It could affect your chances of various public sector positions depending on who's "judging."
But remember - dancing is a LEGAL job. If someone decides they don't want to hire you because they found out that you danced to help put yourself through school or pay the bills, do you really want to work for somone like that? Being a dancer can be quite efficient! LOL!
If someone runs a background search...how would this license NOT come up? I've had background checks done on me and everything comes up. Maybe it depends on what kind of search is done. But, for the most part, if they do a full background search (say for clearance purposes, etc) you can bet that this information is going to surface (despite what the office of permits told you).Originally Posted by BrainyDancerGirl
If the background search is done to find out if you have a criminal record, then it probably won't come up unless you were charged with some kind of "crime" while stripping (you know from all of those great "laws" they like to enforce from time to time).
But, yes, this information is a matter of public record. You do not need to walk into some obscure office in the state in which the license was obtained to get information about the license. People who think this are being niave. This is the information age and that information can be obtained with the click of a button. Which is also why you never put "entertainer" or "dancer" on your tax returns. You put "consultant" or something like that.


Well, is there any way that a person can conduct their own background check to see what would come up about them in a search?
Also, even if it did come up, I don't see how or why an employer would hold a dancer's permit against someone if you have no crimes associated with having been a stripper. I could understand a school district or any position where you are in contact with children. But for professional positions...*shrug*
Seeing as how you work with legal professionals, I guess your records, including dancing, we all good![]()
But to the original poster...working in a city which requires licenses...well, having someone find out via public records is the risk that you run when you decide to dance. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go to law school, but I always knew that my permit could come up somehow. And if it ever does, it's just something I have to deal with. But, don't let it freak you out too much.
If you're really worried, I'd dig around a bit, see what I could find on myself. But, if ever confronted, just be honest. How someone reacts to something is largely dependent on how you're responding.





It's actually quite simple.Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
There's a bit more to it than just this but it's good for some food for thought.
- You file for incorporation (simple version can be done online or if you want a better version done, talk to an attorney or a specialized CPA), but always file under the state of Nevada (better asset and anonymity protection than any other state in the country);
- You put your dog or cat's name down as the President of the company and YOUR name down as Vice President. Control of a corporation does not have to belong to the President and in Nevada (the state you are going to file under) you, as Vice President, are allowed complete corporate anonymity even though you're actually running the company;
- You make the corporation name VenusGoddess Inc. or whatever name you want to use. One good trick is to use your own name as incorporation;
- You get the cheapest P.O. box you can find at some Ma & Pa UPS store and put the corporation address down as that address;
- Get your license under the corporate name and address, not your personal information. Smart dancers in Vegas (and other cities that require a Business License) have been doing this with huge success;
- When you sign your name to the club when you go into work, you use the CORPORATE name, not your personal name. Because it's a fictitious entity, you are provided with asset protection unavailable without it as well as HUGE tax deductions not available to independent contractors. There is a thread in the Private Dancing section right now about someone getting a possible law-suit over what happened at a party. In the U.S. if that were to happen, the customer can go after your house, your car, your bank accounts (and have them siezed) or anything else of value. If she were incorporated, he couldn't because all her assets are protected under the corporation.
The ORIGINAL Stripper Sales School
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Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Abraham Lincoln


Um...not to sound snarky...but what does this have to do with what the OP was asking? She's not asking about how she can protect herself from liability. She's asking about the potential future effects of having a dancer's license.




Hmm, yeah. My husband actually once considering going into politics. A little late for that now. I can imagine the dirt that would come up because of my various licenses held across the country...
"Go Confidently in the Direction of Your Dreams...Live the Life You Have Imagined" -- Henry David Thoreau
"You Will Be Successful in Business and Married Life" -- Fortune Cookie





Asset protection is just one of the many reasons I listed and not the main one. My point was to demonstrate that if she's concerned about the future effects of having a license that there are avenues to eliminate those concerns altogether so that it isn't even an issue to begin with. By incorporating, you can create personal anonymity from the dancer license issue and hence, it's not traceable.Originally Posted by BrainyDancerGirl
The ORIGINAL Stripper Sales School
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Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Abraham Lincoln





Depending on where you are and what you own asset protection may be more or less complicated. It is not necessarily true your home, car etc can be taken from you. There is an excerpt from what is protected Other states are less liberal.
§ 41.001. INTERESTS IN LAND EXEMPT FROM SEIZURE. (a) A
homestead and one or more lots used for a place of burial of the dead
are exempt from seizure for the claims of creditors except for
encumbrances properly fixed on homestead property…………
§ 41.002. DEFINITION OF HOMESTEAD. (a) If used for the
purposes of an urban home or as both an urban home and a place to
exercise a calling or business, the homestead of a family or a
single, adult person, not otherwise entitled to a homestead, shall
consist of not more than 10 acres of land which may be in one or more
contiguous lots, together with any improvements thereon.
(b) If used for the purposes of a rural home, the homestead
shall consist of:
(1) for a family, not more than 200 acres, which may be
in one or more parcels, with the improvements thereon; or
(2) for a single, adult person, not otherwise entitled
to a homestead, not more than 100 acres, which may be in one or more
parcels, with the improvements thereon.
§ 42.001. PERSONAL PROPERTY EXEMPTION. (a) Personal
property, as described in Section 42.002, is exempt from
garnishment, attachment, execution, or other seizure if:
(1) the property is provided for a family and has an
aggregate fair market value of not more than $60,000, exclusive of
the amount of any liens, security interests, or other charges
encumbering the property; or
(2) the property is owned by a single adult, who is not
a member of a family, and has an aggregate fair market value of not
more than $30,000, exclusive of the amount of any liens, security
interests, or other charges encumbering the property.
(b) The following personal property is exempt from seizure
and is not included in the aggregate limitations prescribed by
Subsection (a):
(1) current wages for personal services, except for
the enforcement of court-ordered child support payments;
(2) professionally prescribed health aids of a debtor
or a dependent of a debtor; and
(3) alimony, support, or separate maintenance
received or to be received by the debtor for the support of the
debtor or a dependent of the debtor.
(c) This section does not prevent seizure by a secured
creditor with a contractual landlord's lien or other security in
the property to be seized.
(d) Unpaid commissions for personal services not to exceed
25 percent of the aggregate limitations prescribed by Subsection
(a) are exempt from seizure and are included in the aggregate.
Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 3522, ch. 576, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1984.
Amended by Acts 1991, 72nd Leg., ch. 175, § 1, eff. May 24, 1991;
Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1046, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
§ 42.002. PERSONAL PROPERTY. (a) The following personal
property is exempt under Section 42.001(a):
(1) home furnishings, including family heirlooms;
(2) provisions for consumption;
(3) farming or ranching vehicles and implements;
(4) tools, equipment, books, and apparatus, including
boats and motor vehicles used in a trade or profession;
(5) wearing apparel;
(6) jewelry not to exceed 25 percent of the aggregate
limitations prescribed by Section 42.001(a);
(7) two firearms;
(athletic and sporting equipment, including
bicycles;
(9) a two-wheeled, three-wheeled, or four-wheeled
motor vehicle for each member of a family or single adult who holds
a driver's license or who does not hold a driver's license but who
relies on another person to operate the vehicle for the benefit of
the nonlicensed person;
(10) the following animals and forage on hand for
their consumption:
(A) two horses, mules, or donkeys and a saddle,
blanket, and bridle for each;
(B) 12 head of cattle;
(C) 60 head of other types of livestock; and
(D) 120 fowl; and
(11) household pets.
(b) Personal property, unless precluded from being
encumbered by other law, may be encumbered by a security interest
under Subchapter B, Chapter 9, Business & Commerce Code, or
Subchapter F, Chapter 501, Transportation Code, or by a lien fixed
by other law, and the security interest or lien may not be avoided
on the ground that the property is exempt under this chapter.
These statutes go on at some length. You may read for yourself. Section references are to the Texas Property Code
None of the above makes a difference if you HAVE A DANCERS LICENSE THAT IS REQUIRED TO DANCE IN A CERTAIN TOWN/STATE/CITY/MUNICIPALITY.
If you have to get a dancer's license, you cannot register (in most cases) an "incorporated" name. Its not the company that is dancing, it is the individual and you must use your real name, real ss#, and real address information.
So, whether you are incorportated or not means jack. If you get a dancer's license it WILL come up during a background check (depending on how thorough the check is).
While being incorporated, you can have your company "paid" and pay yourself from that to protect the assets, etc...this does not work when you must apply for a dancer license. The club can make your checks payable to your company...but you must have a dancers license in YOUR name...not your LLC.





You don't really believe that do you? It is a sad fact that many people/employer's descriminate aganist women in the sex industry.Originally Posted by BrainyDancerGirl
Seraya.
That is why I've tried to avoid getting a license. Seems like an invitation for paying higher taxes and a whole lotta trouble! And yeah, I have two previous clubs' names on my credit report and I want them off ASAP. I think the one was added last year when I applied for my sportscar's financing at the car dealership. I wrote the name of the club on my credit application and the dealer probably had that added somehow when he called up the credit bureaus to obtain my credit report or whatever. The only reason I even told him I was a dancer, was to justify my lack of paystubs and to appear that I'd be more than able to afford the car payments. (When I searched for an apartment prior to that, landlords lierally LOVED it when I told them I was a dancer because they assumed that I'd make enough money to have no problems paying for rent. When I searched for an apartment while being a starving retail worker, landlords gave me a big hassle over it and it was very hard to find something I'd qualify for.)
If you were denied a job based on that would that warrant a lawsuit since dancing is perfectly legal?





^ How would you even know that was the reason as to why you were denied the job... It's not as if they would tell to you the real reason.
I'm not trying to be negative here, there are a lot of employer's who descriminate against all types of people.
Seraya.
There's a big difference in something not being criminal and something which you can't discriminate on the basis of.Originally Posted by BrainyDancerGirl
In some U.S & Australian States it is unlawful to discriminate on the basis of 'irrelevant criminal record'. As far as I am aware, there is no such protection conferred on stripping/prostitution records - legal or not!
Discrimination is a huge issue for people in the sex industry. Including in professional positions! If you get denied a job, they don't have to provide you with the reason, the ground on which they've discriminated is easily concealed. Needless to say, discrimination in the pre-employment area is notoriously difficult to prove.![]()
I know someone who was denied admission as an attorney here in Australia simply for being a stripper - she was deemed 'not of good character'.Sadly, whilst some things are legal, they remain highly stigmatised...
The jobs where your licence records are most likely to be a 'red flag' to employers are: law enforcement, government and work with children.:





^ That was exactly my point... you explained it in more depth
Seraya.


^^All very true. People do discriminate, and it's hard to prove why you may not have gotten a job.
And no, you can't sue if someone decided not to give you a job because you were a stripper. That's a fact.
However, not every employer is going to discriminate. Not ever employer is even going to dig deep enough to see whether or not you were a dancer. Some just don't care. They want to know that you got your degree where you said you did, that you worked where you said you worked, and that you're not wanted in 5 different states. Some won't bother to look up old licenses.
HOWEVER, if they invest the money in a COMPLETE and absolute background check, then yes, your dancing license may very well come up. And yes, that could lead to discrimination.
If you're really worried, talk to some people that you trust who work in a field that you're interested in (medicine, law, business, etc). So much depends on where you are working and who you are looking to work for.


Wanna know something pretty funny?Originally Posted by WeaponOfMassDistraction
In a number of cities in Georgia (of all places) you can't even GET a dancer's license or permit unless you are deemed as being of "good moral character."
So I suppose BEFORE you get the license, you're of good moral character, but then once they give it to you, not anymore. Ha! What a hoot!
I just wanted to clarify that if you are a dancer and are going to be filling out some "board of ethics" type of paperwork (doctor, lawyer, etc) it is in your best interest to disclose this info. By NOT doing so, you will be denied based upon dishonesty.
I've never met a stripper who is a lawyer who was denied because she was a stripper.
Thank you all :o)
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How long does the liscense last? If it does expire, does it go "off" your record all together? And if so will it show up that at one point in the past you DID have a liscence? Hmmmmm.
And what about if you get pulled over? Can a cop immediately see that info?
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