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    Default An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    Our VIP host, (I'll call him Vin) has been sabotoging girl's CR sales by trying to work out big money tips for himself while screwing us over in the process.

    Our CR works like this: $200 for the room, $250 for Champane (customer MUST buy a bottle) and $400 for the dancer (but she can name her own price if she wants).
    When I had a CR custy, Vin takes him aside and gets into a huddle with him, they talk, the customer just walks away to the bar. I asked Vin, "What's wrong? he changed his mind?" He said, "He will book for a 1/2 hr each with you and another girl. He is going to give you $150, ok?"
    I said, "No, that's unacceptable. I'm not getting felt up for a 1/2 hr for a measly $150. Besides I thought he was doing a hour."
    Vin has the damn nerve to tell me that I should be grateful b/c he's paying in cash and not funny money.
    He put me in a really bad position, b/c I ask for $250 for a half hour whenever a customer tries to go cheap--I dont get 1/2 hours much b/c of this.
    I tell the customer that it is not the VIP host's place to determine MY asking price and if he didnt have all the cash he should have told me, b/c no one is booking half hour CRs here. I told him that I want $200 (Vin really fucked me over on this, but I didnt want to lose the sale) and no less. Of course, the customer was promised less, so he told me to get lost. VIn gives the room to the other girl. When she returned to the dressing room, she said that she got $300. She only agreed to it b/c she thought she could pull another $100 out of him anyway--but she didnt. It turned out that she saw the customer give Vin a $150 tip.
    Basically, the host tried to cut my throat by promising the custy a lower CR price AND get that extra $.

    Tonight a dancer friend complained to me that Vin did something similar to her. Her custy wanted to take her and another girl for hour (3 people all together). Vin did the same huddle with the customer and BOOM! My friend lost the CR, the custy took only one girl and Vin got the extra money that my friend should have recieved.

    I have heard rumors of this happening to others before...

    He has also talked customers out of taking me in the room, by being overly blase' regarding the sale. I dont get his behavior b/c I make sure that the customer tips his sorry ass (for doing nothing) and if the customer doesnt, then I do. Even then I usually tip something--although he doesnt deserve it.

    We just got a new GM, so he has no senority time-wise, but was hired to get the club back in shape--fortunately, I have a good repoire with him. The VIP host has been there for a few years now and kisses the owner's ass (who is also a greedy dickhead). One of the other floor hosts has "blackilisted" me with big $$ custies too, b/c he tried to do me in and I called him out on it.

    I'm really frustrated and I dont know who to talk to. I am just about ready to leave but I like the club's customer base.

    Do I tell the GM and have him reiterate it to the owner? Do I go to the owner directly? Does anyone have any advice for me?
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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    Just warn the custy that the host is a scam artist. Then tell the custy not to talk to him. That way the custy will ignore the host altogether. And, the custy can just pay for the CR and you can get down to biznazz. =) Or, get a group of girls together that have experienced the hosts BS. Then go to mangmt. More girls are better than one in situations like that.
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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    Vin handles the $ transaction. The custy HAS to talk to him.

    Mgt. is only the new GM and the Housemom-who claims to be our liasion to the owner, but never suggsts that he talks to us about our feelings.
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    I know that. But, U could just tell the custy what the price is ahead of time. So he can have the money/card ready to give to the host. That way the custy just pays and u take him back. There wouldn't be any "extra" chit chat going on between custy and host if the custy has the money ready to give to the host. Are u tipping the host well? Does he do this to a lot of girls?
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    I give him $40--thats %10--it's standard here, but he doesnt deserve more than that.
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    Wow, that sounds eerily like Lace to me. Main reason I left them. Bad exchange rate on funny money, Larry getting tipped at my expense etc.

    Even if mgmt. doesn't encourage the sharing of feelings, I would discuss this with him anyway. A club can go downhill if the guys get sick of the hosts making more money than their girls. He, being new, might want to address that situation.

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    Oh hell, that pisses me off just reading it. I just hate that shit.
    I had something sort of similar happen to me a few weeks ago, I feel your pain.

    I think that warning the custy ahead of time is your best bet. And don't let them go off into a huddle alone! Follow your custy so that you're right there when Vin starts bullshitting.

    I really do think you should go to management about this, too. Whether it's you alone, or with a group of girls, you should at least try. It doesn't seem like things can get much worse...

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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    ooooooh! i would be so pissed off! god i would be pissed. Get him fired!

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    yeah, i think i am going to take to the manager, if dont see any improvment, I'll just leave.
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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    If you don't want to go face to face with the new GM, then send him an anonymous letter stating all the problems going on. I also think the other girls advice is great about telling the customer upfront about the situation with the floor host. Tell the customer the prices and tell the customer what the duties are of the floor host and then also tell him that he'll try to scam extra money out of him so that way the customer will see that you're looking out "for his best interest".

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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    Rat his ass out. Too many customer will realize they are being "handled" and wont like that. Also, the other poster had a good idea, tell your customer BEFORE he even talks to this guy that he will try and scam him to make some cash.

    Our club is set up very similar to yours, and in the past things have gone on that caught my attention and I felt I was getting walked on...so I just make sure my customer knows EXACTLY how it works with me....and I stick to him like glue!




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    Man, I remember when you first told me about this situation, I was hoping it had gotten better by now. I agree with the other posters. I'd tell my customer off top not to even talk to the CR host guy because he is a scam artist. I also would NEVER leave my customer alone with the CR. Wrap your arm into his, and just laugh and giggle your way into that champagne room. Don't give that douche anymore of your money..he doesn't deserve the satisfaction.







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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    If all else fails it seems like you have a good customer base, so you could always take your custy's with you to another club. That'd hurt them...

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    thanks you, guys. I will talk to the GM, he alraedy has annoyances with the hosts as it is--he thinks they are lazy and complacent. Hopefully this will influence his desicion.
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    Default Re: An out of control VIP HOST! What to do??

    That's a tough situation. I like the anonymous idea, because if you rat this guy out, and he ends up not getting fired, you could really have your money screwed with, even moreso than now. Another idea is to send a letter posing as a customer from a friend's address or something. Say that you came in, asked for whatever hours or girls, Vin talked you out of it and promised you a cheaper rate if you tipped him, and that you ended up having a bad experience and felt cheated, and that you won't ever be coming in again, etc.

    Clubs often write off the opinions of dancers, but they tend to pay attention to the customers that are obviously making them money.

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