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    What am I doing wrong?

    In the locker room, all the girls talk about how much they make (granted it can be exaggareted) but most of them make from 500-1000 a night...... i just started to work ..i have only worked three days but i am not doing as good as them.....it is probably because they are experienced...... but it seems like the girls that are able to get all the dances is the girls that just sit on their laps, giggle and ask for dances.. for everybody in the room..........i sit and converse but it seems like by the time i get around. they just want to talk and say how im the prettiest there .. ask to meet up with me later(no chance) but dont buy dances........ should i be more blunt and do like the others............on stage i am good.. i cant do many pole tricks but i still get a lot of tips.. and even get $20 tips on stage and i jsut started......... i dont understand how come i am i make so little when others make so much........yes ive been reading hustle hut... i read stripper web religiously....... so HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP thanks girls!

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    Default Re: What am I doing wrong?

    Ask within the first song or two you're sitting with them. By then, they should know whether they want to have fun with you.
    I've been dancing a year and this is STILL my biggest problem, I just don't sell them enough, I don't try to close enough. It drives me batty, there's a girl that just started and her idea of an average night is my idea of a great night -- why? because she closes the sale, whereas I just sit and sit and sit at tables.

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    Default Re: What am I doing wrong?

    maybe thats my problem.. i sit for a little too long without closing the deal..... maybe i should just be a lot more flirty and blunt .............

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    Default Re: What am I doing wrong?

    First of all NEVER pay attention to what the other dancers say they are making in the dressing room. Who cares really? If they are exaggerating or really banking it makes no difference and doesn't help you to vacilate over it. Just mind your own hustle and stay focused.

    Yeah perhaps your are taking to long to go for the close. You mentioned that you get $20 tips on stage, are you following up with those guys for dances? Sometimes all you'll have to do is go over to those guys hold out your hand and ask "are you ready for me?" and then hopefully lead them to the dance area. If they say they're not quite ready yet you can either ask if they'd like some company for a moment, or let them know you'll check back with them.

    Well you also mentioned what the other dancers are doing. Is this an allowable form of hustle in your club? I mean it's not like dancers are jumping into guys laps in a non-contact club right? If it is allowable, is it something you're comfortable doing? Heck if it works, why not try it right? These girls are likely coming off as flirty and fun and the customers there may be eating it up.

    Also, it sounds like they are playing rule of large numbers and doing a modifed form of "wanna dance". If they jump into enough laps someone will eventually say "yes". You might be able to use this to your advatage too. Their style might not be a fit for all customers, and you could see who turns them down and approach them with your socializing approach. However, even when using the socializing approach, you shouldn't wait more than one or two songs to go for the close.

    Best of luck!
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    If you decide to stick with the socializer approach it may help to develop some kind of push...

    What I mean is something that may help you close the deal or else you'll be compelled to leave. It helps to have a "push" rather than just sounding like, "Times up, either get a dance or I'm gone." Does that make sense?

    A few examples:

    I know one dancer who uses her stage sets as the push. In her club dancers go on stage 15 min of every hour but a dancer who giving dances is allowed to skip her set. She'll talk to a customer for 45 min, but then as her set draws near she tells him how she hates to go on stage and gets him to "rescue her" from her set. Of course she also sells him on the champagne room as it will certainly guarantee to take up the entire length of the set.

    Another dancer I know works with a waitress. Anytime the waitress sees her sitting with a customer she comes over and asks if the customer would like a drink and if he would like to buy the dancer a drink. Sometimes the customer does, sometimes he doesn't ... not really important. A little while after serving the drinks, the waitress will come over and say that another customer has asked for the dancer, whether there really is another customer or not. It them gives the dancer the chance to sell dances, or get tipped for conversation, otherwise she'll have to leave for the other customer.

    In both of these cases it's something external that would make the dancer have to get up an leave, and not just the passage of time. At which point the customer can pony up if he'd like her to stick around.
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    Default Re: What am I doing wrong?

    Verfolgung is right- when they talk about what they made...just tune it out. Plus, the top money-makers in my club have been working for 5/6 years. I don't compare myself to them at all.

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    Default Re: What am I doing wrong?

    One trick that I found works well is to find two guy sitting together. There is usually one ugly nery one with a nicer looking friend.
    Go sit on the nerdy one's lap and make him feel special. Ignore the cute guy. When they nerd sees you are interested in him he will spend money on you. Not to be out done by his nerdy friend, the cute guy (driven by his own superior sexual prowess. at least in his mind)
    will compete for your attention, usually in the form of cash!!!

    Works for me. (or did when I was working clubs.)

    Good luck
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    Sorry for all the typos

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