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    Hopefully this will be useful for at least a few of you girls. I'm sure there are many of you that already do this and those that know it doesn't work for them but hopefully some of you will benefit from this...

    Talk to everyone and never leave a custy without at least trying to close on a dance. I've been doing this for a while now and sometimes I'm still surprised by how many guys say "yes" to a dance and even end up asking for VIP, when I was thinking "he's never gonna buy...." Well you'll never know if you don't try right? (Same goes for when you get them to buy a LD....always try for multiples unless he's obviously ready to go. More often than not a get at least one more...)

    And don't discount people especially because of "stereotypes." On nights where girls are bitching about money there might be a group of young guys sitting at the tables/bars that no one talks to. They write them off because they are "young" and "prob won't spend". Ok so sometimes this is true but more often than not at least one of they guys is having his first "strip club experiance" and will buy a dance. Personally I love first timers because they are easily persuaded and often buy multiples or VIPS. Bonus if it's the entire groups first time. Since none of the other girls are bothering with them and you are the only one talking to them they will all get dances from you. This has worked for me many times!


    Just get out of the mind set that "you shouldn't bother" with certain customers. I hear this sooo much from girls and can't help but think that at the very least they are missing the opportunity to make money.

    Same can be true for the opposite. Many of the older gentlemen that many of the girls go after, often do spend money but they tend to be way to grabby and pushy and not really gentlemen at all. This again, is by no means ALWAYS true, just my observation.

    Hope this helps!

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    Thank you soo much for your post you know I have this problem but Ive gotten custys to ask me when im thinking hes not buying im just wasting my time so yeah I try to remeind myself this all the time

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    Two quick tips to add...

    1) Even if a customer declines your offer for a dance, and after you've finnished giving dances, don't forget to invite the customers to come up and visit you the next time your on stage. You might not have gotten the dance or the additional dance, but you can still help to increase your stage earnings.

    2) Yes, I agree you should try to "touch" (I don't mean literally) eveyone and not avoid anyone for some pre-conceived notion. However; I wouldn't recommend going right down the line and just approaching one customer after another. I think you're better off using the "star" approach. Working back and forth around the club in kind of a "star" pattern. Too often customers will get conditioned with a "monkey see, monkey do" type of mentality and if they see you just working down the line getting one decline after another they're likely to decline you as well. However, if you make eye contact and walk from across the club to approach a customer, passing a whole bunch of guys along the way, you'll be well on your way to making a connection and giving him the feeling that he's somehow "special", and much more likely to buys dances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by verfolgung
    Two quick tips to add...

    1) Even if a customer declines your offer for a dance, and after you've finnished giving dances, don't forget to invite the customers to come up and visit you the next time your on stage. You might not have gotten the dance or the additional dance, but you can still help to increase your stage earnings.

    2) Yes, I agree you should try to "touch" (I don't mean literally) eveyone and not avoid anyone for some pre-conceived notion. However; I wouldn't recommend going right down the line and just approaching one customer after another. I think you're better off using the "star" approach. Working back and forth around the club in kind of a "star" pattern. Too often customers will get conditioned with a "monkey see, monkey do" type of mentality and if they see you just working down the line getting one decline after another they're likely to decline you as well. However, if you make eye contact and walk from across the club to approach a customer, passing a whole bunch of guys along the way, you'll be well on your way to making a connection and giving him the feeling that he's somehow "special", and much more likely to buys dances.
    Exellent additional info v! Particularly the second part. I often back and forth from the stage area to behind the bar to talk to customers where I'm not visable to the those that are sitting around the stage. This is also a neglected area (at least in my club). Although more often than not I can get dances, etc. from these customers and even if I don't ...it appears I'm "busy." That also reinforces a post not long ago about "always looking busy." For all they know I am in the LD room or VIP room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verfolgung
    However; I wouldn't recommend going right down the line and just approaching one customer after another. I think you're better off using the "star" approach. Working back and forth around the club in kind of a "star" pattern. Too often customers will get conditioned with a "monkey see, monkey do" type of mentality and if they see you just working down the line getting one decline after another they're likely to decline you as well. However, if you make eye contact and walk from across the club to approach a customer, passing a whole bunch of guys along the way, you'll be well on your way to making a connection and giving him the feeling that he's somehow "special", and much more likely to buys dances.
    I agree 100%. You call it the "monkey see, monkey do mentality," wheras I not-so-affectionately call it the "bandwagon theory." Guys see other guys not tipping, so they do the same. This could be for two possible reasons:
    1.) The guys want to be cheap and figure that they will not stick out like a sore thumb if they are declining, since everyone else is declining too.
    2.) Seeing you get rejected so many times may actually alter the guy's perception of how attractive he finds you. A girl getting lots of rejections does NOT look attractive.

    When there were nights where clusters of cheap bastards would sit together, and I didn't get tipped by 3 or 4 guys in a row, I would often follow the star approach and move to the other side of the room. Usually when I did this, the guys on the other side of the room(who didn't see the cheap bastards stiffing me a minute earlier) would tip and I would start making money again.

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    ^^^^ I've even paraded by the cheap assholes with a guy who wants a dance and they look sour--like they didn't want me to EVER make money AGAIN! What whackadoos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    ^^^^ I've even paraded by the cheap assholes with a guy who wants a dance and they look sour--like they didn't want me to EVER make money AGAIN! What whackadoos.
    Oh yea, I've gotten those looks before, and I just love it. I also love it when a group of guys immediately walk away from the stage when I approach it.( I guess they think I'm not worth their $1,) when immediately 10+ guys rush the stage to take their seats. I put on my biggest smile, rolling eyes and all towards the cheap bastards lol.







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    Yes I love the leaving stageside also!!! I believe they may be afraid that our brown skin will rub off on their clothing. Hehe. Really great when someone immediately steals their spot.
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    Optimist, I can relate! I've had that happen too, it is soooo annoying. I'm convinced that guys(ESPECIALLY including strip club customers!) are catty bitches, maybe even cattier than middle school girls. I think a lot of guys DON'T want us to get that dance, they want us to be miserable and not make money. Why? Because they're catty and sadistic and probably "get off" at the thought that they upset a girl enough by not tipping, that it affected her hustle. And yeah, I've done as you've done, by parading past the cheap bastards and giving them smug looks as I walk by. It feels great!

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    ^^^HEE HEEEE!!! I love it!

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