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    There's been recent events that have made me bring up this topic. These events include a girl's post about stealing customer's money, stupid bitch cook stealing from me at my other job, Russian male bitches stealing money from my friend when she was in Australia a few years ago, and so on. The topic of theft accusations has been a sore spot for me and a past insecurity of mine. Please share any thoughts on this.

    I was raised to believe that stealing is wrong and unethical. It is something that hurts people. Overall I haven't stolen from people, except for a few petty things when I was a child that you'll agree aren't a big deal. Here's a run-down on my so-called "stealing":
    1.) When I was 11yrs old, my little sister bitched because I would leave my bath sponge hanging on the shower faucet after a shower, instead of hanging it on the wall with my towel. No big deal, especially compared to the mess that my 31-yr-old roommate Bob makes nowadays at my place! My mom sided with my sister(as she often did), and made me pay $0.25 for every time I forgot to hang my bath sponge on the wall. I had to pay my sister a total of $1.00 during a time that I made only $2/week allowance. So one day, I stole my $1.00 back outta my sister's piggy bank. This was also to spite them for making a mountain outta a molehill and letting it affect my wallet.
    2.) When I was 16, I worked at shitty McDonalds. I bought these Furbie Happy Meal toys one day, put them in the break room, then at the end of my shift when I was walking towards the break room to retrieve my toys, the dickhead manager(he had a Napolean complex) yelled at me and didn't let me into the break room. He just needed an excuse to be bossy. As a result, my toys got stolen. The next workday when I discovered this, I stole some Furbie Happy Meal toys(a $1.99 value) to make up for the theft that wouldn't have happened if the manager had let me go back to the break room like he did everyone else.
    3.) Right before I succombed to dancing, I was dirt poor and literally damn near starving(I will save myself the shame/embarrassment by divulging further detail; just trust my word). I had a shitty hostess job and I needed to take the bus far out to the suburbs to get to it. On a few desperate times, I would buy a $0.60 bus transfer, as opposed to a $1.30 ticket, and hope the bus driver wouldn't notice the difference.

    Heh I'm not much of a burglar, am I?

    Then why have people falsely accused me of stealing so much before?

    Remember I told you I was penniless before dancing? During that time, I was staying with a friend because I couldn't afford an apartment and my mom kicked me out. We'd arranged to meet up at this popular neighborhood bar after I was done work(shitty part-time hostess gig). I got to the bar, minded my own business, and didn't do any harm. There were a few people who kinda mocked me for not having money like them(it was a rich little suburb town). For example, this one asshole said "YEAH RIGHT!" really rudely when I told another guy that I had a college scholarship. Well, that same asshole drank and drank and lost track of how much he'd spent on drinks. At the end of the night, he came up $40 short because he'd forgotten that he'd bought so many drinks. He didn't know me, but immediately blamed the $40 shortage on me. His reason?..."We all know she's having a hard time and doesn't have a real job other than a min wage part time gig but she has all this debt, she stole the money because she needed it." What's worse, is he couldn't even approach/confront me about it, but instead went behind my back. The whole bar(including the bartender) sided with this asshole, and all I saw was the whole bar arguing with my friend about something and I didn't even know what it was about until my friend told me about it later. The bartender had records of how many drinks he'd purchased, but even SHE blamed me before thinking to look at the receipts! In the end, the asshole admitted his mistake but never apologized to me or even tried to be nice to me. Meanwhile, people were telling my friend that he had "wrong judgment" to let me stay with him because I might steal something. Not long afterward, this so-called "friend" told me he didn't want to ever hear from me again.

    The next day, I was on the bus and I needed change for a dollar(they only took coins for bus tickets). I asked this seemingly nice old lady for change. I gave her my dollar, and as she reached into her coin purse for change, a few coins dropped onto the floor and amist picking them up, she forgot to give me my change. Because I was unassertive, I waited like 5mins or more before asking her for my change, and she claimed that she gave it to me. Then she accused me of being a "thief" and trying to con an old lady. She got everyone on the bus on her side. Because I was going through a lot of problems in my life, I was deeply offended so I argued back and started crying. When we both got off the bus, she told a group of old ladies waiting at the bus stop to "watch out" for me because I was a thief. I never got my quarters that I needed for my bus ticket.

    A few days after that, I was waiting at a (different) bar for a friend. I was talking to an acquaintence and (stupidly) telling him about some of my big problems, such as no money, no job, my parents disowned me, etc. We arranged to hang out later on if my friend was a no-show(it was snowing, so I was waiting for my friend but didn't count 100% on him making it). Meanwhile, his friends started gossiping to him and telling him to not let me visit him apartment, because if I was poor/underemployed, I would probably steal. AGAIN! They also accused me of being a fuckin' COKE ADDICT, simply because I was sniffling and rubbing my nose! The truth was, there was a big snowstorm that weekend, and I had a RUNNY NOSE from waiting outside in the cold at the bus stop for a long time!

    It angers me that I was such a good person, yet people still accused me of stealing. They didn't accuse me because I had a proven track record...they didn't accuse me because I came off as a rude/malicious person...they accused me simply because I was poor. Isn't that economic discrimination? The truth is, the reason these assholes accused me of stealing, is because if they were in my poor shoes, they WOULD have stolen...odds are, if they were in my shoes, *I* woulda been the idiot they woulda stolen from! Recently, some asshole at work stole MY credit card and she wasn't in nearly as bad of a money situation as I was in before, and I never stole. It angers me profusely. Because of these accusations, I've become excessively untrusting of people and I've also put more of an emphasis on shallow things like money, nice possessions, etc because I know that if I DON'T have much money, people will discriminate and treat me like shit.

    Has anyone had similar experiences? Has anyone found that they've gotten more respect, and less false accusations, when they went from rags to riches?

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    lol...isn't it funny how you get to know some posters "M.O" after a while? Before I opened this post I said to myself "this is phillydancer, so this is going to be a loooooong post, get ready."

    I know this has nothing to do with whatever is in the post but it struck me as funny.

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    Well maybe if people hadn't treated me like shit, I wouldn't have to spend so much time venting about all of these false accusations from nearly 2 years ago. Are your comments relevant in any way, shape, or form? And if it is so easy to size me up, then why do so many people size me up wrong by falsely accusing me of something I wouldn't do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    It angers me that I was such a good person, yet people still accused me of stealing.
    The same people will claim they are "unjudgemental"

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    They didn't accuse me because I had a proven track record...they didn't accuse me because I came off as a rude/malicious person...they accused me simply because I was poor.
    Not true. Because they didn't KNOW if you where poor. You PROJECTED or APPEARED poor. Similar to their lack of ability to immediatly pull your "honosty report" for your history of honosty. They did not pull your bank account information. Not saying this is much different, but this just furthers my point of judgemental people.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Isn't that economic discrimination?
    It's definitaly people judging you based on what seems to be little true information and more based on what people that appear like you are known for. "You dress flashy, you must be a hooker, therefor you're trying to screw me out of a dollar for change" Not the same as your situation, but similar.

    It's like when I went to buy a car with my grandfather. He was going to buy a new jag, while we where working on a 8 cyl 50's mustang he got a call saying the local dealer had exactly the one he's looking for. He ran to the bank got the money out in CASH, and got treated like absolute shit at the dealership.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    The truth is, the reason these assholes accused me of stealing, is because if they were in my poor shoes, they WOULD have stolen...odds are, if they were in my shoes, *I* woulda been the idiot they woulda stolen from!
    I like your observation, however it is my belief that people have been fed this image that they have a set level of visible attributes that they can see on you that red flags them to your most likely activities. For example, as a stripper, you know that just cause he dresses rich, doesn't mean he is. SOME have gone out of their way to not dance for these gents because they are sure they are just being flashy. And normally they are more trouble and grabby right?

    I believe everyone judges. They do so instantly. What makes you a "Judgemental" IMO, is your willingness to let your initial judgement to be changed by facts. THE TRUTH IS, Miss Phillydancer, is that if any one of these people took 10 seconds to get to know you, they most likely wouldn't believe you where a theif.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Recently, some asshole at work stole MY credit card and she wasn't in nearly as bad of a money situation as I was in before, and I never stole. It angers me profusely. Because of these accusations, I've become excessively untrusting of people and I've also put more of an emphasis on shallow things like money, nice possessions, etc because I know that if I DON'T have much money, people will discriminate and treat me like shit.
    If this makes you a better person, and more independant, where is the loss? What's wrong with putting a higher value on material things? It was your blood, sweat, and tears that made it. Just don't marry a vindictive woman? (I'm in your shoes here)

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Has anyone had similar experiences? Has anyone found that they've gotten more respect, and less false accusations, when they went from rags to riches?
    Rags to Riches doesn't help much. In my case I started keeping my personal financial drama to myself and dealing with it in my free time. But it hardly hurts me anymore. However, as I have explained, snap judgements will NEVER go away, and as people are scorned more and more as you are, the problem only gets worse.

    When you seek validation only from yourself by yourself, will you truly rise above it and not give a shit whether or not she thinks you're a thief. She owes you change.

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    Tell them all to Fuck Off ,done ! As soon as a situation turns to shit either defend yourself or leave you dont need to be around people like this . And get over the world being cruel because it is . if you surround yourself with good people ( economic status has nothing to do with it ) you will feel much better .

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    I switch clubs a lot, and I find as 'the new girl', I get accused of stealing. In weird ways. Like, in Texas recently, the bartender accused me of putting and extra drink onto my drink commission card. I thought it was so fucked, especially considering that it was a $2 value, and I was in the CR when he accused me.

    I got accused on stealing (and fired for it) in Glasgow (grrr, I'm still bitter). They said they had me on video pocketing a tip from a customer (we had to give 50% of tips to the club). Of course, they wouldn't show me the video (because it didn't exist). They also kept all my money from that night too. Grrrr, I'd better stop, I'm getting pissed.

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    I've been accused of stealing. & Now that I live in a part of the U.S. where the Native Americans are sometimes derided as "beggars and thieves" I get looked at funny in stores, as if I am going to steal something....since they think I'm from the Reservation.

    Actually, some of your stories reminded me of a funnier incident, where a co-worker at the wildlife agency accused me of breaking the transmission on the work truck. The hilarious part was that she accused me in front of TWO people who watched her shear the gears with us sitting next to her in the truck & smelling the burning tranny fluid smell waft from the engine compartment. (One of the witnesses offered to tell the truth to our bosses- this witch was infamous for f*cking up and blaming it on others. She was an awful human being.)

    SO...basically, that's the awful human being M.O. ....."blame it on others." Because you seem like a nice person, you are a target for someone looking to dump blame.

    Now, to avoid stupid incidences like being accused of stealing, I leave my backpack at the store counters & pocket my cash. I get what I need & leave.

    Keep in mind some people steal for kicks, not because they're poor. Look at Winona Ryder, or other cases of white-collar kleptomaniacs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    Not true. Because they didn't KNOW if you where poor. You PROJECTED or APPEARED poor. Similar to their lack of ability to immediatly pull your "honosty report" for your history of honosty. They did not pull your bank account information. Not saying this is much different, but this just furthers my point of judgemental people.
    Maybe I didn't explain it thoroughly enough(I thought my post was long enough already). Most of the false accusers DID know that I was poor. At the first bar, where that guy accused me of stealing his $40 he'd spent himself on drinks, it consisted of a tight-knit clique where everyone knew everyone around town. They knew that I had a bad situation and they were well aware that I was staying with their acquaintence Dr. Tom for a bit because I couldn't afford my own apartment. They were there at the bar a week or so earlier, when me and Dr. Tom were discussing about how I would stay with him temporarily. Dr. Tom also divulged info about my situation to them. As a result, there was much gossip about how someone like me "didn't belong in that town" and such.

    At the second bar, where some people told my friend that he shouldn't let me hang at his apartment if we hung out, they too knew about my situation. This is because I was stupid enough to tell my acquaintence about a lot of the perils and problems I was going through and some of this was discussed at the bar, right next to where his gossipy cruel friends were seated.

    Probably the only person who didn't know about my situation, was the old lady on the bus. Yeah you're right, I probably portrayed myself as poor...I was wearing tons of layers to combat the cold, since I was stuck waiting outside for the bus and also walking a good distance between places that the busses didn't reach(I didn't have a car then).

    Before these experiences, I was a lot more nonjudgmental than I am now. I admit that these experiences, coupled with my rags-to-riches stripper story, has made me a bit of a snob. I used to be too overly friendly to people, and I also did dumb stuff like gave spare change to beggars when I was in the city. Nowadays, I ignore the beggars and think, "Oh, they're just looking for money to spend on cheap booze." You're right, I've gotten judgmental. But I blame my environment(assholes at the bar, etc) at least partially for this.

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    I try to surround myself with good people, but back then it was hard because it seemed like everyone was turned against me. As soon as they heard that I didn't have a car, a decent job, etc they started to doubt my intelligence and think badly of me. Hells, even my own PARENTS turned against me and falsely accused me of stuff! For example, they accused me of quitting my job due to "laziness," when in fact I was fired for a ludaicrous petty reason and I did NOT want to lose my job. Dr. Tom seemed like a nice person...we had things in common, and he also let me stay at his place for a short while. But even he turned out to not be a true friend, because he let his acquaintences' shit-talk influence how he viewed me as a person. He claims that he never believed that I stole that $40, and I believe him on this, but then why did he tell me not to ever talk to him not long after that? A few months later, my friend was talking to him on AOL and he admitted to them that the reason he didn't want to associate with me was because my car was broken down, I wasn't making much money, and he didn't see me "making it" successfully for a long long time(haha I showed him! I became a dancer and after that point, the cash started rolling in and my quality of life went up!).

    There were a few people that stuck through with me, one being my good friend M--k. When things went downhill with me and Dr. Tom, M--k let me stay with him until I was back on my feet. He listened patiently when I had problems, offered advice to the best of his ability(it wasn't the best advice, but hey he tried), and is still my friend today. There are a few other friends that I've kept. Other people like Dr. Tom have been written off and name-called "Asshole" if anyone brings their name up in conversation. Some people ditched me when I was poor but started acting nicer when they saw I had a new Mustang a year later...I've dealt with these people by telling them off and then writing them off. I don't need people like that.

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    "The best revenge is living well."

    That being said, let go of the bad & embrace the good. & Be glad you have one good friend through it all (M--k)...some people don't even get that out of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Well maybe if people hadn't treated me like shit, I wouldn't have to spend so much time venting about all of these false accusations from nearly 2 years ago. Are your comments relevant in any way, shape, or form? And if it is so easy to size me up, then why do so many people size me up wrong by falsely accusing me of something I wouldn't do?
    No, my comments are completely irrelevant to your post, as I said in my reply above.

    Totally didn't mean to offend you, just making an observation. You tend to write really long posts, that's all.

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    By reading your various posts about different social difficulties you have had (getting jobs, getting respect, now being accused of stealing), I wonder if you don't suffer from shyness.

    Frequently shy people are considered shady or snobby. Even though they don't do things to hurt others, their shy nature tends to cause others to feel negative feelings about the shy person. I've known plenty of shy dancers who both the customers and the other dancers would make comments about "She thinks shes too good" or "She thinks her shit don't stink".

    A neutral facial expression is fine if you are playing poker or watching TV, but in social situations it breeds distrust in others. Even a frown is more socially acceptable than neutral. Just like when you are playing poker, you want your face to remain neutral to not give any clues to the other players about your thoughts, the same neutral facial expression can make people suspicious of you. It causes others to think "What is she hiding?"

    Unfortunately, shy people wear a neutral expression more often than not. Yep, they are hiding their inner feelings, well, because they are shy.

    Now, of course, I've never met you, so I can't really say if this is the case. But it is something to think about. I find that I'm very good at reading body language, to the point that I play "psychic" with complete strangers. I can usually tell a person who is shy vs. one that is truly shady. But some drunk in a bar, likely is not as good at reading body language, and being drunk makes a person's judgement more than a little "off".

    Just a thought. Maybe plastering on a fake smile or raising eyebrows while someone is chatting with you will go a long way in social interactions. If you normally have a neutral facial expression, you will have to make a concious effort to remember to "make faces" when in social situations, but I think it may just help a bit.


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    You are right about the shyness thing. There are some situations where I am not shy at all, but others where I am...such as on job interviews, or when talking to people that dislike me. When I was in 6th grade, my shyness problem and insecurity was much much worse. We had these annual parent-teacher conferences where the parent met our teachers, and my teacher had the nerve to tell my mom that the reason some kids might not like me is because they might think I am snobby because I don't talk much or make good eye contact! I was not snobby at all, and that comment just made me feel even more insecure.

    As far as the kids at the bar though, I still stand by my point that they knew my poor situation very well, such as the college debt and how I wasn't able to afford to get my (relatively cheap) car repaired or finish college. I'd stupidly talked about my problems there before. Also, I told Dr. Tom a lot of things and I'm pretty sure he divulged some of the details. Also, kids who accused me of things used "But we all know that she is poor and has major money problems, so she'd need the money, that's why she stole it" as their justification for accusing me. If they got to know me as a person, maybe they wouldn't suspect me of theft, but then again, they were narrow-minded snobs who didn't want to see my good traits simply because they saw me as poor and unsuccessful.

    Scarlett--Your experience sounds horrible. I hope that you told off the managers or spited them when you left the place...they'd deserve it! For some reason, after reading your post I got this weird feeling that maybe the managers do this to a lot of girls? Maybe it is a way to take all their tip money, and it doesn't matter to them if they lose a girl if perhaps they have a waiting list of new girls to come in? Maybe they did this false accusation thing to girls that they couldn't con out of their money in other ways? I'm sure that the club you're at now is a lot more PROFESSIONALLY run and friendly.

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    Oh and one last thing that's annoying? You know Dr. Tom, the so-called "friend" who ditched me not long after people started convincing him that I was a thief and an overall lowlife? A few months after we stopped talking, my friend talked to him on AOL. She told him about my new breast implants at the time, and he rudely commented, "Well, she must have just gotten them, because she had no chest at all when I knew her." But the good news is, half a year later I ventured back to that bar to show off my new Mustang and basically kinda gloat that I was much more successful. I ended up picking up Dr. Tom's friend, and we've been hanging out(and more) since then! Karma's a bitch, Dr. Tom.

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    Becareful Miss Phillydancer, though sweet, vengence is an addictive trait.

    I have to say, you're only judgemental, if you're not willing to let that judgement be changed. We all make a snap judgement based upon the information we've gathered up till that point. Normally it's status quo stereotypes and visual appearance, but as you interact with the person, if you do, you should gain new judgements and new understanding.

    It's really not worth your time to waste these negative emotions on people obviously not worth the effort.
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    ^ I know, the only reason I brought up this topic was because the thread titled "OMG"(a thread about a girl stealing $5K from a customer) reminded me of how much I hate thiefs. Thiefs inspire people to become very accusing towards others, and in the past I was always the innocent party that often got the blunt end of the accusings.

    The reason I am judgmental towards these falsely accusing assholes, is because they were judgmental first. Dont' say they aren't, because they definitely WERE. And from my experiences, I'm not completely judgmental. If I was, I woulda stereotyped Dr. Tom's friend "S--n" to be "exactly like all the others" and then I woulda missed out on the opportunity to make a new friend/fuck-buddy. But instead, I got to know Dr. Tom's friend "S--n" and then realized that while Dr. Tom, the drunk college guy, the bartender, and a bunch of others were snobs, that this guy "S--n" actually was a cool guy. Then again, maybe the boobs and the new car helped him to want to get to know me...I'll never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Thiefs inspire people to become very accusing towards others, and in the past I was always the innocent party that often got the blunt end of the accusings.
    And even if you weren't the feelings the accusation illicit are very self-defeating and harsh. It's one of the worst feelings in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Dont' say they aren't, because they definitely WERE.
    I never said they where, I lack sufficient evidence. I'm just saying that, at least in Dr. Tom's case, he lost out on an excellent oppertunity, however, a blessing in disguise since most likely, this is something you would NOT want to have found out about you after he's parked the beef bus in tuna town. (c)jimmy pop ali.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    And from my experiences, I'm not completely judgmental.
    This is neither a provable thing or unprovable. Since even we as individuals have no idea what we're missing out on or not even in the most trivial of snap decisions based on initial judgements. My opinion. I just make sure I have no regret. That's much easier to manage.
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    If I was, I woulda stereotyped Dr. Tom's friend "S--n" to be "exactly like all the others" and then I woulda missed out on the opportunity to make a new friend/fuck-buddy. But instead, I got to know Dr. Tom's friend "S--n" and then realized that while Dr. Tom, the drunk college guy, the bartender, and a bunch of others were snobs, that this guy "S--n" actually was a cool guy. Then again, maybe the boobs and the new car helped him to want to get to know me...I'll never know.
    And now I see the benefit for these initial judgements or reasons that drive initiative towards decisions. It's like your very first personal firewall. And even if what you said was true, what's it matter? He's obviously moved beyond it.

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    The "beef bus" metaphor brings up a humorous slightly off-subject little story. Heh it's more like the beef bus got carjacked. I'll start by stating that I tend to be overly aggressive when it comes to guys and getting what I want from them. It's gotten to the point that guys have accused me of "harassment" and when I was younger, I got fired by not one but two jobs for so-called "harassment." Me and Dr. Tom were just friends, but I soon started pressuring him to have sex. After a while he got sick of this and I also do not think he was overly attracted to me(the "she had no chest when I knew her" remark kinda shows that). This is probably one of the reasons that he stopped associating with me. I also read on his stupid online dating profile thingy that he likes a girl who can "take care of herself" and is "successful," two things that I was not...so those things were probably a turn-off as far as him viewing me. When he told me he didn't want to be friends anymore, I lied by telling him that I was "gettin it" from his friend S--n and his friend Mikey L-noe. He was like, "That's a lie and you know it!" It was, but at the time I was feeling kinda shitty because a lot of people were avoiding me and it was hard for me to meet guys. I also told him that his friend S--n was a lot bigger than him. At this point, Dr. Tom got an STD test because he was deathly afraid that I'd given him something(meanwhile, I was clean).

    Well lo and behold, a year later I went to that same bar and I ran into S--n again. He was one of the few people who was personable and friendly to me a year before, but I never got a chance to catch up with him because I'd only met him a few times before. We started talking, he stared at my cleavage, and gave me his phone number. I met up with him, got what I wanted from him, and guess what?...He actually WAS bigger than Dr. Tom! LOL! (NOTE: Dr. Tom was still a respectable size though; however, he as a person is NOT respectable)

    It's sad to think that so many girls can get laid any time they want, but I've always had to succomb to aggression tactics and going after the guys who've had too many drinks. I feel like a disgrace to women. Now that I have implants, I seem to have a much easier time getting guys than before. A lot of guys who were friends but only friends before(such as S--n), are now suddenly interested in me sexually. Yeah I use them to get what I want, but I never give a relationship, even though some of them(such as S--n) have wanted one in the recent past. Surprisingly, not all guys are dogs like I am, and they told me that they felt kinda used or that they wished I wanted to date them monogamously. Oh well.

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    I promise I'll stop postjacking your thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    I tend to be overly aggressive when it comes to guys and getting what I want from them. It's gotten to the point that guys have accused me of "harassment" and when I was younger, I got fired by not one but two jobs for so-called "harassment."
    creeeeeeepy......
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Me and Dr. Tom were just friends, but I soon started pressuring him to have sex.
    Curious, once you have sex, do you lose your drive towards that person in most cases?

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    After a while he got sick of this and I also do not think he was overly attracted to me(the "she had no chest when I knew her" remark kinda shows that). This is probably one of the reasons that he stopped associating with me. I also read on his stupid online dating profile thingy that he likes a girl who can "take care of herself" and is "successful," two things that I was not...so those things were probably a turn-off as far as him viewing me.
    #1 why are you still trying to figure it out. Perhaps you aren't but you do seem stuck on Dr. Tom.
    #2 If you think the breast comment was to show how he "never" liked you try again. I know you're aggressivly about sex in some situations if not all (I don't know you) however, think about it this way.

    Dr. Meets dead end girl, she's kinda fun, but annoys him with her then-obvious deficiencies as a person as she would relay it to him, eithe in verbal or body language. This makes Dr not want to spend time with girl that often, but is drawn to her to a degree anyways, theories of negative activities are easier to believe because, well, Dr. thinks she's trash due to overwhelming evidence.

    Fast forward.

    Same girl is the apple of Dr's friend's eyes. Dr, is jealous at his obvious inability to see an oppertunity and now Dr.'s best friend is enjoying what he wanted from someone who is obviously successful enough to make it on her own where Dr. thought otherwise. Does Dr apologize and admit his misgivings? Or does Dr. let ego take control and make a stab at her in the heigth of her career in a way Dr. will know will hurt.

    Dr., imo, is jealous cause this nice piece of ass is shagging his best friend because Dr. can't see past his own ego. My opinion.


    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    We started talking, he stared at my cleavage, and gave me his phone number. I met up with him, got what I wanted from him, and guess what?...He actually WAS bigger than Dr. Tom! LOL! (NOTE: Dr. Tom was still a respectable size though; however, he as a person is NOT respectable)
    Then it all worked out for the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    It's sad to think that so many girls can get laid any time they want, but I've always had to succomb to aggression tactics and going after the guys who've had too many drinks. I feel like a disgrace to women.
    This isn't true and you know it. It's very clear that you have a "I see what I want, I want it NOW mentality" You can NOT tell me you don't get hit on, but you ignore it because it's not showing itself to be what YOU want. You just recognize that you have to approach and be the aggressor of what YOU want because you're too impatient to be coy about it. Not a bad quality. But you're not going to make me believe the "whoa is my sex drive" plea.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    A lot of guys who were friends but only friends before(such as S--n), are now suddenly interested in me sexually. Yeah I use them to get what I want, but I never give a relationship, even though some of them(such as S--n) have wanted one in the recent past. Surprisingly, not all guys are dogs like I am, and they told me that they felt kinda used or that they wished I wanted to date them monogamously. Oh well.
    Only thing that comes to mind here, is that, perhaps, in what seems like a year's time or more, you've grown much more as a person beyond your breast size. Perhaps THAT is what makes people have a sexual/romantic interest in you today which they did not years ago.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

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    You are probably right about Dr. Tom, along with many other people who snubbed me before and then realized that they lost out on an opportunity!

    Sorry if I sounded creepy, I was just trying to portray myself honestly. If I simply said that I shagged him, you'd think I was coerced into something and "used." When in fact I was the instigator, and a while later when he was avoiding me, he seemed creeped out by my sexual semi-harassment and the lewd lies I said about shagging his two friends. People who know me, know this semi-negative trait that I exhibit, but to people who don't know me, it sounds a little hard to believe at first because my sexual aggressiveness is kinda a rarity for being a baby-faced female.

    Haha this is off-subject, but what I find funny is that in most cases, I will lie about having sex with someone and then some time later, actually find a way to get to that person. I wonder why that is? It seems to happen that way with a lot of my little white fibs, not just fibs about sex. For example, the time that I was trying to find out some things about some asshole, so I simply told people "hehe he's a friend of my cousin" in order to elicit info about the guy. Turns out, he really WAS friends with my cousin! Kinda strange, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    You are probably right about Dr. Tom, along with many other people who snubbed me before and then realized that they lost out on an opportunity!
    Just stop selling yourelf on the idea that you're the same Miss Phillydancer you where when Dr. Tom snubbed you just with bigger boobs. That's just plain not true. You're a COMPLETELY different person. You've probably gone from the type of person Dr. Tom can't get away from to the type of person he needs to pay to get attention from. You're a prize for him and anyone else. Accept no lesser self-description.
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Sorry if I sounded creepy, I was just trying to portray myself honestly.
    Sorry if I am Mast...and had a moment where I felt I could have a firm grounding on which to call anyone/thing creepy. IT'S ME PHILLY. I'M JOKING.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    If I simply said that I shagged him, you'd think I was coerced into something and "used." When in fact I was the instigator, and a while later when he was avoiding me, he seemed creeped out by my sexual semi-harassment and the lewd lies I said about shagging his two friends.
    Most likely not, I think I had the assumption you where of the aggressive type. I personally believe that that is your single most changed quality, I would bet. When you where poor you probably convinced yourself often you had no authority to illicit sexual interest...
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    People who know me, know this semi-negative trait that I exhibit, but to people who don't know me, it sounds a little hard to believe at first because my sexual aggressiveness is kinda a rarity for being a baby-faced female.
    Fuck em. If you're cool with your "semi-negative trait" it's not too "semi-negative" is it
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Haha this is off-subject, but what I find funny is that in most cases, I will lie about having sex with someone and then some time later, actually find a way to get to that person. I wonder why that is? It seems to happen that way with a lot of my little white fibs, not just fibs about sex. For example, the time that I was trying to find out some things about some asshole, so I simply told people "hehe he's a friend of my cousin" in order to elicit info about the guy. Turns out, he really WAS friends with my cousin! Kinda strange, huh?
    Female Intuition is most definitly real and powerful. But I bet we notice it more when it's real than we do if it's not.

    Funny story, when I was in St. Louis my party and I went out to a few dance clubs, and I like to dance a lot by myself. I get approached or bumped into or what not with women who will dance with me, of which I oblige the moment with however always go back to the dancing with myself mentality. I get kinda wild and the local folks like to look, but I really just try to find the better dancer and dissect him and sprinkle his technique with mast.

    Anyways, I met this dude, who was fantastic, and him and I had this hilarious little dance off to "Axl Foley" the theme from Beverly Hills Cop a remake. The DJ kept replaying the main part with space between it so we can upstage each other. He won, but I and my group got free drinks for putting on a show. It was great, before my sets, I would walk the circle spreading it out like a pissed off rapper, get up in his face, back up then do my shitty dance.

    ANYWAYS, While dancing I had my eye on this fucking fox that was turning me on more than a 4 point spanking from emily when I write in ladies only. I was only in town for the night, so I really didn't care enough beyond..."Hello the nicest thighs I wish to come across"
    When we finished the dance-a-crap, she came up to me and said "If you want to dance with me, let me know within the next 5 minutes...if you want to talk to me, call this number" And she gave me her number. Heh. I should call her and tell her where I'm from, she seemed very timid.

    But similar, yea.
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    Here's what I meant by me being relatively the same person. Work ethic? I had the same type of work ethic then as I do now, the only difference is that I make better money now and have had better luck with securing jobs(although if it weren't for dancing, I still wouldn't be making much money at all). Kindness to others? I was a nice person then and generally a nice person now, the only difference is that I'm a little snobbier now, which is a direct result from some of my experiences. Hobbies and interests? Still generally the same.

    Personality wise, the only differences are that I've become more snobby/skeptical of people, and I value material goods more now, because godforbid if I didn't have things like a nice apartment and my cars, people wouldn't respect me enough. Oh yeah, and I'm a money-making stripper where as before, I wasn't dancing because I hadn't gotten the courage to audition yet. In my opinion, these differences are kinda shallow and not very indicative of how good someone is as a person.

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    Hold on...I think a lot of what has "changed" about me is also based on peoples' perceptions. For example, I had career goals and work ethic back then, but unless you were close to me, you would never guess this based on the dead-end job that I had. I had good grades at school, but you wouldn't think this about someone who had to drop out of college temporarily(generally, people assume that students drop out due to lack of direction or grades...it's not common for someone to take a semester off when they only have one more semester to go). I know this, because people made false comments that I'd "flunked out of college" or that "I had no work drive."

    Oh yeah, I just remembered something...One positive thing that HAS changed from then til now, is that I stopped doing drugs and generally drinking so much. But then again, the reason I abused substances was because I was depressed about the state I was in. Then again though, Dr. Tom didn't know me when I did drugs. He only knew me during a time that I was socially drinking with him and his friends at the bar, or smoking pot with him.

    The dance competition thing sounds fun! Sounds like a great way to attract chicks, too.

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    I understand that you are you and you KNOW the truth. My point of view comes from the projection of it.

    What I am saying is, that there are two type of communication, what you look like, and what people see. What you say and what other people hear....etc...etc....etc

    You don't really believe you've changed. You most likely havn't I'd describe it as hard work paying off. But lets look at it from Dr. Tom's and S--n's point of view.

    Dr.Tom saw a girl that looked like a good lay. Now he sees his friend dating a girl that he fights to be seen with.

    The success you're qualities gave you give your qualities power. Dr. Tom suffers from the shallow view of being able to see a work in progress. You're proud of yourself, no doubt. Now just be sure people of equal or better quality can reap the reward.

    Who cares if you're shallow, you've earned that right.

    I concider myself very selfish. But I have 2 rules, I try to make sure my decisions affect the people around me negativily for the least amount of time, and I try to surround myself with people of greater value than myself. This allows me a regret-free existance where I am always learning more and more.

    Hope I'm not coming across as offensive here...I just find this kind of shit interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDancer1982
    Hold on...I think a lot of what has "changed" about me is also based on peoples' perceptions. For example, I had career goals and work ethic back then, but unless you were close to me, you would never guess this based on the dead-end job that I had. I had good grades at school, but you wouldn't think this about someone who had to drop out of college temporarily(generally, people assume that students drop out due to lack of direction or grades...it's not common for someone to take a semester off when they only have one more semester to go). I know this, because people made false comments that I'd "flunked out of college" or that "I had no work drive."

    Oh yeah, I just remembered something...One positive thing that HAS changed from then til now, is that I stopped doing drugs and generally drinking so much. But then again, the reason I abused substances was because I was depressed about the state I was in. Then again though, Dr. Tom didn't know me when I did drugs. He only knew me during a time that I was socially drinking with him and his friends at the bar, or smoking pot with him.

    The dance competition thing sounds fun! Sounds like a great way to attract chicks, too.

    HA! OH SNAP.... LOOK WHAT I >JUST< Posted.

    Now you see my point.

    Is that NOT creepy?!
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