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    Default You took his money, but were thinking "God what a loser"

    1. I'm sure plenty of you have heard people who say "oh, strippers are miserable. How could they not be, having to do what they do for money? They have to numb themselves to what they're doing", etc. I was just wondering what you ladies think when you hear things like that. And do you think there's any truth to it, at least some of the time? Personally I think there may be SOME strippers who absolutely hate what they're doing, but I think the vast majority would simply do something else for a living if they were so miserable as some people think they are. What do you all think?

    2. Aside from guys with B.O. - and I'm amazed how common that problem seems to be with customers from what I hear - do you get many customers where you'll take their money as long as they behave themselves, but you're thinking "God what a loser?" Or do some of you maybe think that of all customers? [img]images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

    3. Aside from the obvious "can I touch you here", or "wanna go home with me", have you ever gotten a request from a customer where you said - or were at least thinking - "no, fuck no, not for any amount of money, get the fuck away from me"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil
    I'm sure plenty of you have heard people who say "oh, strippers are miserable. How could they not be, having to do what they do for money? They have to numb themselves to what they're doing", etc. I was just wondering what you ladies think when you hear things like that. And do you think there's any truth to it, at least some of the time? Personally I think there may be SOME strippers who absolutely hate what they're doing, but I think the vast majority would simply do something else for a living if they were so miserable as some people think they are. What do you all think?
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    I'm actually very happy...because I have your money in my pocket! LOL

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    Default Re: You took his money, but were thinking "God what a loser"

    No...I think that about very few (if any) of my customers. I don't usually get much money from the guys I think are losers, because I won't talk to them. Or I'll think they're a loser because they're not spending

    I feel sorry for some, but I don't think they're losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil
    1. I'm sure plenty of you have heard people who say "oh, strippers are miserable. How could they not be, having to do what they do for money? They have to numb themselves to what they're doing", etc. I was just wondering what you ladies think when you hear things like that. And do you think there's any truth to it, at least some of the time? Personally I think there may be SOME strippers who absolutely hate what they're doing, but I think the vast majority would simply do something else for a living if they were so miserable as some people think they are. What do you all think?
    I dunno - I think the numbness happens as a matter of course. You can't maintain that much miser in an average workday. You eventually get used to it, and it's just... what you do. You don't think about it - whether you were miserable or elated to begin with.

    2. Aside from guys with B.O. - and I'm amazed how common that problem seems to be with customers from what I hear - do you get many customers where you'll take their money as long as they behave themselves, but you're thinking "God what a loser?" Or do some of you maybe think that of all customers? [img]images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]
    Many. Many, many, many. And then there are customers who were cute or nice or funny or otherwise delightful.

    3. Aside from the obvious "can I touch you here", or "wanna go home with me", have you ever gotten a request from a customer where you said - or were at least thinking - "no, fuck no, not for any amount of money, get the fuck away from me"?
    No. I've never had a request that I would not do for ANY amount of money. I have never been offered enough money in appropriate circumstances to do lots of things however; and at this stage of my life I'm unlikely to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil
    1. I'm sure plenty of you have heard people who say "oh, strippers are miserable. How could they not be, having to do what they do for money? They have to numb themselves to what they're doing", etc. I was just wondering what you ladies think when you hear things like that. And do you think there's any truth to it, at least some of the time? Personally I think there may be SOME strippers who absolutely hate what they're doing, but I think the vast majority would simply do something else for a living if they were so miserable as some people think they are. What do you all think?
    I am one of those girls who started doing this...11 years ago...because I thought it would be fun. It was fun. It still is. Obviously after that much time I am a whole lot more jaded and no longer wide-eyed, but the part that I thought would be fun, mostly still is for me. I couldn't possibly keep doing this if I didn't like some aspects of it. Even as much as I hate the way some aspects of the business have changed, it's still enjoyable enough for me to keep doing it. Even quit a $50k/year job recently so I could dance again after taking off a few months.

    Sure there are girls who hate the job, and only do it for the money, who feel it's the only thing they can do to earn the money they need. I figure they're only hurting themselves and if that's what they choose to do, then let them. It's really not anyone else's problem so why get all worked up about it?

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    Aside from guys with B.O. - and I'm amazed how common that problem seems to be with customers from what I hear - do you get many customers where you'll take their money as long as they behave themselves, but you're thinking "God what a loser?" Or do some of you maybe think that of all customers? [img]images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]
    There's always an asshole around, in any job or any environment. Considering the number of people we deal with on a regular basis, our chances of running into an asshole are pretty good. It's not necessarily that this business draws assholes anymore than any other - it's that we just see alot more people, on a much more intimate level, than most. I have walked away from money many times before and I'm sure I'll do it many times more before I quit this for good. To me, no amount of money is worth letting some asshole treat me like crap. Besides, there's at least 20 other guys in the room I can pick from, so why should I stress myself with an asshole??

    For the record, the only guys I ever thought were losers are the assholes or those who try getting something from me for free. It would be rather hypocritical of me to feel that a guy who paid me for my services is a loser, don't ya think?

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    Aside from the obvious "can I touch you here", or "wanna go home with me", have you ever gotten a request from a customer where you said - or were at least thinking - "no, fuck no, not for any amount of money, get the fuck away from me"?
    Yes. Plenty. These are the ones I walk away from, no matter how much money they have in their pockets. Again, it's usually the ones who are trying to get something from me for free or who think their money buys them the right to treat me like shit. No thanks, there's a roomful of other guys with money in their pockets, who will buy my services and NOT treat me like shit.

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    I appreciate all my customers inless they arent nice to me or try to rip me off.
    I treat them with respect as long as they respect me aswell.



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    1. I think a lot of people hate their jobs, not just strippers. And that's sad. Life is way too short to spend the majority of it on a job you hate. Unfortunately, some people don't have much choice beyond stripping, or working in a factory, or working in a meat processing plant, or doing other jobs that don't have a high rate of worker satisfaction. Life is a combination of luck, choices, and consequences. I do think that there are more happy strippers than happy meat processors.

    2. Customers are people. Some people are losers, and some are cool.

    3. Of course. All the time.

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    Default Re: You took his money, but were thinking "God what a loser"

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil
    1. I'm sure plenty of you have heard people who say "oh, strippers are miserable. How could they not be, having to do what they do for money? They have to numb themselves to what they're doing", etc. I was just wondering what you ladies think when you hear things like that. And do you think there's any truth to it, at least some of the time? Personally I think there may be SOME strippers who absolutely hate what they're doing, but I think the vast majority would simply do something else for a living if they were so miserable as some people think they are. What do you all think?
    I giggle when I hear that statement. Yep, miserable 'ol me here can't stop grinning. I am easily amused, and a lot of what happens in the strip club makes for great stories, even if it is a negative situation for me, I can usually laugh about it later.

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil
    2. Aside from guys with B.O. - and I'm amazed how common that problem seems to be with customers from what I hear - do you get many customers where you'll take their money as long as they behave themselves, but you're thinking "God what a loser?" Or do some of you maybe think that of all customers?
    Nope. I rarely think of my customer's as losers. The losers are the ones who are trying to run a game. They aren't my customers, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil
    3. Aside from the obvious "can I touch you here", or "wanna go home with me", have you ever gotten a request from a customer where you said - or were at least thinking - "no, fuck no, not for any amount of money, get the fuck away from me"?
    Yep. I will walk away from offensive customers all the time. I reserve the right to refuse service.


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    Yeah, those miserable Strippers. All that cash must be a drag to lug 'round.

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    I've worked in many an industry...from IT to stripping to finance....almost the same proportions of assholes exist. Its just that in a stripclub, they reveal their character very quickly. Also, this is a message board primarily for dancers. Thus, you will read more about the negative than the positive..........

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    I have a real career that pays well. I dance for the fun of it as much as for the money.
    Most of the "Miserable" dancers I see, are the ones who depend on dancing for thier entire income.
    The stress of having to make X-amount tonight would take the fun out of any job.
    Since I do it for fun (and I do enjoy it)and not so much for a living, an be selective about who I dance for.
    I have turned down requests for lap dances if I got a bad feeling about a customer.
    That is actually one of my strategies. I won't dance for the guys with no class, who look slimy. That can drive away potential good customers. If a guy with class sees a girl who he is interested in dance for some nasty , sleezy slimball, he won't want a dance from her no matter how good she looks. In his mind she is nasty too for selling out to any sleez with a $20 bill.

    I have turned down invitations to parties or other OTC events. I'm Deaven in the club...but as soon as I'm gone I'm just me. (or used to be when I worked the clubs. Now I only do private parties.)

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    Some people are miserable no matter what they do for a living . I think its funny that people always assume that we HAVE to be strippers like there is no other option . I personally have known some very intelligent people in this industry who CHOSE to work in a SC . I feel that I am one of them and have had many good career opportunities but I am kinda lazy and this job can be very lax BUT what I found was to make a nice living you have to work your butt off no matter what you do .


    As far as customers go yeah some of them are LOSERS and some of us think it while we are "serving" them BUT when I worked at a mall as a kid I thought that of some of the people I waited on there too . People are people no matter where they are or what they do for a living .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    I can name 20 strippers off the top of my head that have more money than I do.

    ill second that,
    and they are anything but misserable,
    think about it.
    They dont need to depend on a guy,
    and they can treat themselves to anything they please.
    they can have a nice apartment or house
    and dont have to answer to anyone
    there not misserable and
    they are smart,
    if anyone is misserable its the loser
    guys that go blow all their money at the club lol
    it was once me that was that loser haha


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    I dont hate it but I am trying to get out of it. I am finishing up school and it isjsut time for me to move on. I have never been miserable except the nights I didnt make any money.
    Just like everyone else .. some are PL .. others are cool. SOme I feel sorry for cause they are lonely. Many had wives for a long tme and are now wodowers. I feel sorry for them. They are lonely and hurting. Some are great. I like it when they come in.
    I hate it when they wont spend moeny or they try to tel you you are wrong for doing what you are diong or look down on you for it. i dont like the judging custys .. your in a strip club .. you ahve NO room to judge.
    YES! there are lots of things that I feel that for no amount of moeny would I do. I couldnt have sex with someone for meony or perform actual sex things like oral and stuff. I think it is a moral thing. I jsut couldnt do it .. not for a million dollars. I dont think I could live with my self afterwards. Kutos to those who can and make a fortune doing it. But it isnt for everyone. I also can cheat my custys out of money or rob them blind. I know girls who can and they make morethen me. I jsut cant do it. I think I am too nice for this business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady
    I dont hate it but I am trying to get out of it. I am finishing up school and it isjsut time for me to move on. I have never been miserable except the nights I didnt make any money.
    Just like everyone else .. some are PL .. others are cool. SOme I feel sorry for cause they are lonely. Many had wives for a long tme and are now wodowers. I feel sorry for them. They are lonely and hurting. Some are great. I like it when they come in.
    I hate it when they wont spend moeny or they try to tel you you are wrong for doing what you are diong or look down on you for it. i dont like the judging custys .. your in a strip club .. you ahve NO room to judge.
    YES! there are lots of things that I feel that for no amount of moeny would I do. I couldnt have sex with someone for meony or perform actual sex things like oral and stuff. I think it is a moral thing. I jsut couldnt do it .. not for a million dollars. I dont think I could live with my self afterwards. Kutos to those who can and make a fortune doing it. But it isnt for everyone. I also can cheat my custys out of money or rob them blind. I know girls who can and they make morethen me. I jsut cant do it. I think I am too nice for this business.

    yeah ive seen
    it lots of guys that go,
    my self inclusive are lonely when we go,
    i know i wouldnt go if i had a girlfriend
    but im just to busy to go out to the night clubs
    so a strip club is a pick me up i guess.

    its awesome that your trying to get out of the business
    and even more so i tip my hat to you for
    choosing not to take the road that many
    dancers take with all the extra stuff..
    that many girls take. though you say you make less
    money your character and moral fiber will get you further in life...
    than that other stuff would get you in the business


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    The one thing that gets me when men think that strippers are all out for their money. Strippers are out for a fee for the service that we provide. If you don't want to tip, oh well. There are plenty of men and women who will. Customer really don't have to tip on the stage or tip extra after a dance. Trust a dancer, not having your one $1 is not going to break a dancer.

    Now for the men who comes to a club, that don't get a dance and don't tip; they basically just observe. You have that right to observe, but don't expect a dancer to come over to you. Sure a few may come over and put a hustle on you, but word will quickly spread that you are just a "barstool warmer". Of course when I danced I would talk to these people on slow nights( hey I was bored). When I noticed a good potential costumer...Sorry gotta go. Believe it or not some guys actually complain to the mgt when they do this stuff.

    When a guy enters into a club, they are entering into a BUSINESS. Yeah it might be a strip club, but nonetheless the place is still in the business to make money. If you go into a restaurant for a month straight, sit down and get some water and chips, and not order a thing, I don't think the restaurant mgr will be to pleased with that. They could use the table for a paying customer. The waiter has just waisted their time on a sitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassfire
    The one thing that gets me when men think that strippers are all out for their money. Strippers are out for a fee for the service that we provide. If you don't want to tip, oh well. There are plenty of men and women who will. Customer really don't have to tip on the stage or tip extra after a dance. Trust a dancer, not having your one $1 is not going to break a dancer.

    Now for the men who comes to a club, that don't get a dance and don't tip; they basically just observe. You have that right to observe, but don't expect a dancer to come over to you. Sure a few may come over and put a hustle on you, but word will quickly spread that you are just a "barstool warmer". Of course when I danced I would talk to these people on slow nights( hey I was bored). When I noticed a good potential costumer...Sorry gotta go. Believe it or not some guys actually complain to the mgt when they do this stuff.

    When a guy enters into a club, they are entering into a BUSINESS. Yeah it might be a strip club, but nonetheless the place is still in the business to make money. If you go into a restaurant for a month straight, sit down and get some water and chips, and not order a thing, I don't think the restaurant mgr will be to pleased with that. They could use the table for a paying customer. The waiter has just waisted their time on a sitter.

    yes ive seen guys that are cheap or broke
    what ever the case, the guys that dont spend...
    at the club i go to,
    they have 3 rules that are enforced by the bouncers to the t

    1. if your at the tip bar, you have to tip a dollar or more per dancer
    2. you must always have a drink in your hand
    3. you must either be seated at the tip bar
    or at one of the seats in the back, usually if you sit in the back
    dancers go up to you to offer dances.

    the managment has made it hard for these guys to be cheap lol


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    Default Re: You took his money, but were thinking "God what a loser"

    1. The "miserable doing what they do" thing can be applied to pretty much -ALL- occupations. Some people like their jobs, some people don't. A lot of people are "stuck" in their field of work for various reasons (e.g., social status, pressure from parents, financial pressure). All fields of work have places that offer higher pay or lower pay, better working conditions or worse working conditions, friendly staff or hostile staff - so naturally there will be some people with good experiences and bad experiences.

    2. The guys who spend the duration of the dance saying: "Can I touch you? Oh, it's so bad that I can't touch you! Can I take you home? How much for taking you home? I really want to touch! Do you know how hard it is not to touch? So when do you finish?" etc. (This is in a non-contact club, obv. ) Or the guys who walk around strip clubs acting "cool" and "picking up" dancers, lol. (They amuse me)

    3. Not much comes to mind right now. Only one thing: A _REALLY_ creepy guy asked me to dance for him... I had to decline that offer, lol.

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