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    after dealing with something in my personal life last night i became furious. i took a break and came back. the bouncer said i should take out my anger onstage, so i gave an aggressive performance. i was tipped more than i have been in a long time.

    it seems counterintuitive. the bouncer said that men seek approval from women. the bartender (female) confirmed that when she's angry and in a mood she gets tipped more. why is that?

    dancerwealth recommends being nice (which i am!), but seriously, will putting on angry performances get me more tips and dances?

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    The reason you probably got the reaction you did is because you put emotion into your performance. That's something that many actors and performers strive to do every performance but instead of acting the part, you were the part. You probably had more raw emotion into your performance and that is most certainly detectible by your customers. They saw that you really gave a damn and wanted to reward you accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    The reason you probably got the reaction you did is because you put emotion into your performance. That's something that many actors and performers strive to do every performance but instead of acting the part, you were the part. You probably had more raw emotion into your performance and that is most certainly detectible by your customers. They saw that you really gave a damn and wanted to reward you accordingly.
    hmm. that's a good point. i'll think about that.

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    Yeah there was a night where I was completely upset with everything and anything... Not a good night.. problems with my boyfriend.. and I took it out on the pole. I played music that meant something to me and I let go and like you I noticed a higher tip and more dance requests...

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    I've noticed this too and I think it makes one seem cool/hard to get/unattainable to be a little fiery or pissed off. Men are drawn to a challenge and adventure, lol. It's more exciting than nice. Not to the point of being a mega bitch, but you know what I mean..
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    I once danced alongside this other girl for the better part of the night...I'd never met her before, but this customer I was talking to knew her, and told me he wanted both of us. I'm like Pollyanna in my SC demeanor (perhaps a little pollyish all the tiime), but she was a straight up snarky bitch. She'd be like "ok, enough talk (which he was paying us for a little anyway), let's get with the dances", and she'd just roll her eyes at him, make sarcastic comments. He was an arrogant prick too. I didn't get how she pulled it off. But he ate it up. When I tried a sassy comment though, he smacked it down indignantly. I guess use what you got, but I have seen nasty sell dances. Another time I saw a girl slap a guy, throw his drink in his face, and swear at him (on the floor). Well the whole club saw it cuz it was crazy. He then stood up and took her to the CR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon
    Another time I saw a girl slap a guy, throw his drink in his face, and swear at him (on the floor). Well the whole club saw it cuz it was crazy. He then stood up and took her to the CR.
    LOL! I had a customer like that who just loved abuse. I'd dance and he'd hand me a few bucks. A dominatrix girl stomped and took his stack and he just grinned. He'd put more money out when he saw her coming.

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    I know alot of guys who like it when youre a complete bitch to them. Sometimes i just order drinks and put it on there tabs and leave them notes like "thanks for the drink perv" they always tip me big when i do that. lol THEY LOVE IT.



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    Yeah! Anger works OTC with getting dates/fuck-buddies, too! Nice guys/girls finish last! Back when I was "nice," I got taken advantage of for rides/money/etc and no one really wanted to bang me. As soon as I started showing a bitchy side, guys wanted me more. It could also be the boobs and nice car, though. Isn't there a book called "Why guys love bitches: From doormat to dream girl" that explains more of this theory?

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    Last week this guy kept touching my leg even though I told him not to, so every time he did it, I slapped him in the face. The bouncer was looking at me funny, but the guy liked it.

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    Yeah i always make more money when I'ma bitch then when I try to be nice...go figure...
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    I'm nice most of the time, but if a guy is rude to me, I'm rude back, and it works. If you're nice to those guys, they just try to get away with more.

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    A few months ago, my roommate Bob went to California for a business trip. On his free Sunday afternoon, he visited a strip club in that area and conversed with one of the dancers. He told her about how his roommate(me) was a dancer and how I'd told him that I usually seemed to make more money when I wasn't that friendly(i.e., not wasting too much time on a customer that was friendly but not spending, snubbing guys who weren't tipping, etc). She adamantly agreed with him!

    I've noticed two things about customers:
    1.) When I am feeling angry or disliking the general crowd of customers on a given night, I will ask the DJ to play angry metal music. This is so that I can take out my anger/agitation via dancing to angry music. It usually results in better tips and/or more dances!
    2.) There's a small portion of customers who actually LIKE being bossed around by hot girls! It's some kinda weird S&M/being dominated fetish. For example, the Nipple Guy. He's this older, very wealthy guy in his 60s who REQUESTS that girls order him around and tell him to bark like a dog! There was also this other customer who wanted me to slap him around and yell at him while I danced for him! Ha ha.

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    so what? should i quit being nice?

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    I don't think you should stop being nice, but maybe do more sets like you did that night. Find that little place inside you with all that aggression, intensity, anger, etc. and put that into your set. It worked once, maybe it will again! It didn't really work for me for whatever reason, but more power to you.

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    I think that it worked that night bc you really felt it... but if you try it all the time it'll eventually be too 'put on' to work the same way. Be the nice girl you are but now you know that when you're in a shitty mood you can use it to your advantage.

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    Some men like a "challenge." (All that dang testosterone.) I have very aggressive stage shows but am a sweet hustler. Project a "tiger" fantasy but be submissive in your interaction with men, especially when money is involved (tee hee.)

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    THE BOTTOM LINE IS guys like when you're being REAL.

    Some men pride themselves on detecting the fake B's in the club. Just be yourself whatever emotion you're feeling don't mask it. I've been a variety of things at work and when I'm a sarcastic, evil B I don't make any less. In fact guys like my honesty and appreciate how down-to-earth I am. I don't apologize for my moody ways I just work with them and whatever comes out of my mouth I make sure that it doesn't sound rehearsed.

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    good advice, people. i already am pretty authentic to the customers and it works well for me. i will try aggressive stage shows more often.

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    This thread reminds me how I got so frustrated with stripping, I seriously considered a career as a Dominatrix because I found I was too strong a character to be all submissive and sweet and ditzy to guys who should be begging ME to dance for them and not the other way round.

    Anyway, I spent a long time researching being a Dominatrix and along the way, found this book called "Why Men Love Bitches" by Sherry Argov and it is my number one recommended book.

    I never did manage to become a Dominatrix because really, Im just bossy and get a kick out of slapping guys in the face and from what I can tell, there is a lot more to being a Dominatrix than that.

    I remember one night, I was so frustrated with the slow night and a group of really young guys had come in so I just walked up to one of them, leant over him, and said, youre coming for a dance with me! He ate it up like a rabid dog! He said he loved it!

    At the end of the day, men are programmed to please us and it really is their only reason for existing, unfortunately for us women, years and years of a patriarchal society has conditioned us to change ourselves for men and in turn, we do not know how to tell men what we want and a lot of the time, dont even know what we want. men are programmed to respond to our demands, needs and wishes - it is up to us to voice them and feel ok about asking for what we want.

    and THAT is why a lot of men get off on us being true to our emotions, they are genetically engineered to respond.

    Ive spent this past year researching this, I know what Im talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina loy View Post
    so what? should i quit being nice?
    From a customer perspective, I would be careful. Confidence and energy are always good. But a lot of customers are rapidly turned off by bitchy, including this one. I would read the customer a bit before trying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casaubon1 View Post
    From a customer perspective, I would be careful. Confidence and energy are always good. But a lot of customers are rapidly turned off by bitchy, including this one. I would read the customer a bit before trying it.
    i haven't done the bitchy act at all. it's just not in my nature. i give aggressive stage performances instead and walk off and up to customers as a total sweetheart. blegh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina loy View Post
    i haven't done the bitchy act at all. it's just not in my nature. i give aggressive stage performances instead and walk off and up to customers as a total sweetheart. blegh.
    Sounds perfect except for the blegh part! But if I had to deal with what you guys do, I would be blegh much of the time as well. From the custy perspective, In Amor Vanitas.

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    i started making funny faces at customers while i'm hanging from the pole and smiling afterwards so they know i'm joking around.

    it works in terms of stage tips!

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    That actually sounds ideal -- aggressive and confident, but flashing a humorous side that shows you are approachable. Would get my attention. And it may some day -- SF is one of the cities I get to on business 2-3 times a year.

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