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    Angry I Hate House Fees!!!!!!!

    Is anyone else fed up with house fees, host fees, dj fees, and house mom fees?

    Oh I almost forgot - on top of that 99% of all clubs basically take one third of lapdances and VIP money THEN take a percentage when you cash in fun money.

    (Mind you they also charge the custies a % for using fun money and charge them at the door.....)

    How much greed do the owners have?

    It is nothing but exploitation to the fullest! Does anyone else feel this way?

    We are the ones that keep the custies coming back! We are the ones that make them spend money!

    It is us who make the club a STRIP CLUB!!!!!!!

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    Join the club. Just that strippers aren't orgaised enough nor really care enough to do anything about it........... I've seen this time and time again.


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    I know it is sad. A lot of the mentality is:
    "I make more money than if I was doing other jobs."

    However the truth of the matter is soon money won't be better do to corporate greed and economy

    There are more and more girls than ever before in the industry and the clubs are exploiting all of us - immigrants, stripper career types and the native girls who don't want to work the 9-5 white collar jobs.

    I have been dancing on and off for years and what I see is that each time I come back is
    1. House fees are higher
    2. Management is totally scheduling - WTF?!
    3. MORE GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!
    4. Empty clubs for about half the night

    The worst part is clubs aren't bringing in new custies and all the girls have to make up their balance sheet for it!

    I am at a loss and a bit disenchanted........

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    preachin' to the choir, sister

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    Did anyone read strip city? Wasn't the author's friend trying to do something about the house fees? In San Fran or somewhere? Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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    The Lusty Lady co-op?

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    I understand the frustration, but without the club how would we manage to amass so many patrons?
    We could do private shows, but we would lack the safety and advertising of a club.
    I view it as a partnership. They provide me with a safe environment, free advertising, security, a stage etc, I pay them a fee in return.
    My manager(s) and DJ(s) take good care of me, so I dont mind tipping them. Plus, I think I make quite a bit more money than they do. I can stand to part with $30-$50+(depending on how much I make) for their support. We are all there to make money, and one hand washes the other, you know?
    Though I am fortunate, my club does not charge dancers when they don't make any money and no one expects a tip if you have a shit day.
    Also, working the day shift leaves me with a manager and a DJ to tip. So I may have it easier than most when it comes to fees/tip out etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obeythegir
    Also, working the day shift leaves me with a manager and a DJ to tip. So I may have it easier than most when it comes to fees/tip out etc.
    This really is a new one to me. Managers getting tipped? What service do they provide for which they would merit a tip...I'm really curious.

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    ^^Nothing so far as I can tell . . . and yet it's not uncommon for shift managers to expect a tip. Though I love the clubs where they absolutely can't take 'em.

    I love Portland. Girls here bitch when there is a $20 house fee because most clubs have very low house fees or none at all. Texas is also great -- staff might have their hands out but there is no cut of your dance money being taken at all and house fees are flat.

    Perhaps we should talk about where it's good? I mean, staff will always want tips, but there are lots of places where you get to keep all of your floor money and a very high percentage of VIP money -- Texas, Arizona, Vegas, Oregon. Places rife with robbing your ass clubs include California and I think a lot of the Southeast -- the Carolinas, Virgina. This is why we should always include good fee info in the reviews, too.

    We are always free to vote with our feet -- well, a lot of us are. When a club loses a large number of dancers and is scrambling for more the fees almost always drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaQT
    I know it is sad. A lot of the mentality is:
    "I make more money than if I was doing other jobs."
    I am so guilty of this. I basically just said exactly that in the reply to my latest thread. Too many of us are just so inexperienced, I don't think we really know what is taking us for granted or not. I thought $75 for a champagne room was fair for my neck of the woods...apparently not?

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    Yeah - it sucks when you seem to be the only girl that has a problem with handing over like 50% of their money - it ends up somehow that we, the reason people came to the club - are leaving with the least amount of money. Shee-ot. What to do?

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    Seventy five is NOT fair. I make one-ten in AUSTRALIA, which still equals more than that after exchange. And clubs here are super cheap! I left them for being to inexpensive to customers. You're getting crap pay.


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    When I worked clubs w/ champagne rooms, it was typically $150 pr half hour MINIMUM, $300-500 per hour. The dancer was allowed to set her price. This was in no contact, purtitanical Massachusetts btw. The reason why clubs get away with taking so much out of what the dancers make, is also because the dancers still remain at these rip-off joints. I worked at a club for two nights and walked out the 2nd night because they were taking half of every lap dance. F*ck that. It made me wonder why more girls didn't walk as well. There's so many clubs out there. Why work at one that rips you off.

    Without dancers there is no strip club, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanAngel
    This really is a new one to me. Managers getting tipped? What service do they provide for which they would merit a tip...I'm really curious.
    I think its more of a "grease the wheels" endeavor. Having the manager(s) on ones side in case of conflict.
    I wash their back by tipping according to how well I have done, they:
    Dont give me shit or fine me if I decide I am not into it and want to leave early.
    Call me downstairs when patron requests a girl for a peepshow.
    Allow me the schedule I want.
    Understand and do not fine me when I am late to work.
    Call me in for profitable shifts when they are in need of dancers.
    Are more inclined to listen to what I have to say if there is any sort of problem.
    If all it takes is a tip at the end of a good day to keep them on my side, Im happy to provide it.
    During the day, the manager is also the bouncer/doorman at my club. They also take care of scheduling.
    I may feel differently if I had 7 people to tip out, plus a house fee etc.
    I dont know what it costs to run a club, but I think that $150 from me for a good 8 hour shift is reasonable. They have to pay the DJ, the manager, the bartender, utilities and upkeep plus make a tidy profit.
    My experience is that its worth tipping my support staff when I do well, but my experience is very limited and specific to my club and shift.
    From the sound of things, it varies considerably

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    There are so few good clubs left here in upstate ny that I am having to look for a regular job to supplement my stripper job. I was thinking about going towards the city,but the fees are keeping me out.
    Basically as I think I saw melonie say once as the economy gets worse they just flood the floor with girls. That way they make thier $.
    I think it is sad the girls aren't organized. I do understand the clubs have overhead like heat and lights. I never could stand tipping out a housemom as I come prepared and never ask them for anything.Sadly anymore the mom or the dj seems to make more than some of the girls on quite a few nights.

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    My main gripe about tipping the dj and house mom is that they are EMPLOYEES of the establishment. They should be part of the club's overhead to run the joint! A housemom is there for scheduling and making sure girls are on time for work- she is rarely there for a dancer's benefit. A club needs a dj for music! Paying house fees for advertising!!??? WTF!!! ALL REGULAR CLUBS PAY FOR THIS THEMSELVES - you don't see bartenders at reg. clubs paying the dj for his time.

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    People like the newbie think they have to look out for the club. How would you convince her to look out for herself? Those are the dancers who won't join a union and will talk you out of it or run tell the manager if you try to change things.

    BTW they don't charge fees for putting drinks on your card at regular bars and restaurants. Funny that when the government wants to scrutinize us they want to criminalize or shake us down for money. They never want to protect us by cracking down on the kickback system!!

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    My note is the manager is on the payroll. She gives him 150 To 'grease the wheels'. Argue she works four nights. Argue only five girls work a night. One: one fifty a day is the average Americans salary. Now times it by five. He's making around one hundred and fifty... tHOUSAND in tips alone. That's not even his wage!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaQT
    My main gripe about tipping the dj and house mom is that they are EMPLOYEES of the establishment. They should be part of the club's overhead to run the joint! A housemom is there for scheduling and making sure girls are on time for work- she is rarely there for a dancer's benefit. A club needs a dj for music! Paying house fees for advertising!!??? WTF!!! ALL REGULAR CLUBS PAY FOR THIS THEMSELVES - you don't see bartenders at reg. clubs paying the dj for his time.
    Many strip club "employees" are not getting a paycheck. DJ's sometimes have to pay a fee to work, just like the dancers. Housemom's frequently are independent contractors, too, and depend on girls tipping and costume sales to make a living. Same with restroom attendents, valet's, and sometimes waitresses and bartenders.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Basically as I think I saw melonie say once as the economy gets worse they just flood the floor with girls. That way they make thier $.
    Usually true that if a given club has more girls working it tends to attract more customers through the front door, thus the club earns more in cover charges and drink minimums. However, as we all know, if a club adds 50% extra girls and draws in only 10% extra customers, the average earnings per dancer go down not up. Of course the club doesn't care because their revenues go up 10%.

    Definitely true when the club forces dancers to pay 'fixed dollar' stage fees and tipouts. 50% extra girls equals 50% higher stage fees collected by the club and 50% higher tipouts collected by staff.

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    One of the reasons why I got feedup with dancing. The DJ and Bartender both get a check. It isn't much, but they do recieve one. The dancers on the other hand don't get crap. Their entire income depends solely on how much that they hustle. Sometimes you can be a good hustler and still come out having a bad night.

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    Oh man, house fees KILL me! The owner of this particular club makes a killing off of us girls alone! Doing the math he pulls in upwards of 1800 a night just from us! And that's not counting when we get charged for cashing in THEIR funny money (which the custy has allready been charged 15% on his card for might I add.)

    I understand why some of these fees are there *sigh* but I still feel like I being bent over and done dry some nights.

    I realy like this club, and I apreciate my house mom and DJ very much...so tipping I don't mind, but it's a mandatory amount, no matter what you have made...I think that's a bit hard to swallow sometimes.

    It's especially tough when the club is OH-SO-SLOW these days, and we outnumber the custies. Oh the frustration......




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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    People like the newbie think they have to look out for the club. How would you convince her to look out for herself? Those are the dancers who won't join a union and will talk you out of it or run tell the manager if you try to change things.

    BTW they don't charge fees for putting drinks on your card at regular bars and restaurants. Funny that when the government wants to scrutinize us they want to criminalize or shake us down for money. They never want to protect us by cracking down on the kickback system!!
    I dont see how its mutually exclusive....I can look out for myself and the club. They are providing me with a safe venue to make the money that I make stripping.
    Would you protest to a unions fees?
    I certainly do not agree with clubs charging fees for drinks put on your credit card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    My note is the manager is on the payroll. She gives him 150 To 'grease the wheels'. Argue she works four nights. Argue only five girls work a night. One: one fifty a day is the average Americans salary. Now times it by five. He's making around one hundred and fifty... tHOUSAND in tips alone. That's not even his wage!
    Sorry, my fault. I was not specific. The bulk of that $150 is my house fee. I wind up tipping the manager and DJ anywhere from zero to $20 a piece, (my choice, its not required) depending on how well I do.

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    They are in it to make money, o. You don't have to look out for them. You only have to look out for yourself. Clubs are plenty profitable without your fees. It's just theft. They're taking money from you because they can. These clubs have been profitable at least 20 years before kickbacks became standard.

    Hooters serves the same niche market and they don't force kickbacks from their girls. They don't want to be sued over nickels and dimes. Clubowners aren't so bright.

    It would be like a nurse saying 'the hospital makes it possible for me to care for a larger volume of patients so I am grateful'. The nurse does not consider that the hospital is profitable without her money.

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