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    PL is our very own stripperweb acronym for Pathetic Loser - what we lovingly call our customers like yourself. It's really not as bad as it sounds

    You're dreaming hun. Like I said, if you spend most of your money on strippers, you will NEVER have your own club. Never. Some dude mentioned that to you as a backhanded comment because he sees how much money you spend in the club. That joke was on you.

    And oh yes, it is hard to get financial backing for such an investment. Guys like you always think this business is so easy. This part of your posts is the icing on the Ernesto Will Never Own a Strip Club cake.


    All this aside, you are making me nostalgic with your handle. Ernesto was the name of a favorite ex-boyfriend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    PL is our very own stripperweb acronym for Pathetic Loser - what we lovingly call our customers like yourself. It's really not as bad as it sounds

    You're dreaming hun. Like I said, if you spend most of your money on strippers, you will NEVER have your own club. Never. Some dude mentioned that to you as a backhanded comment because he sees how much money you spend in the club. That joke was on you.

    And oh yes, it is hard to get financial backing for such an investment. Guys like you always think this business is so easy. This part of your posts is the icing on the Ernesto Will Never Own a Strip Club cake.


    All this aside, you are making me nostalgic with your handle. Ernesto was the name of a favorite ex-boyfriend

    hahaha
    it sounds plenty bad from here,
    but i here it all the time where ever i go so...
    yeah


    yes i know i shouldnt spend so much money there
    i know i realized it when i went in with a full paycheck in my
    wallet, and came out with 100 bucks hahaha

    thats the thing,
    like any buisness its not easy ive realized it,
    thats why i didnt intend on making such a venture on my own
    because i dont have the buisness experience while my
    associate does.

    well if it doesnt work
    out youll either see me
    at the door working as a bouncer
    or ill be at the front of the stage throwing singles up there haha

    hahaha
    ernesto
    ive always hated my name
    it just sounds so foreign and strange

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    Gotta love your name dude. My ex LOVED his name - say it loud and proud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    Gotta love your name dude. My ex LOVED his name - say it loud and proud

    really i dont love my name
    with racial tentions as high as they are in california
    these days with all the isues of imigration and such
    i always feel im looked at differently because of that name
    but i digress, ive accepted it, i doubt ill go change my name anytime
    soon haha


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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Buying a strip club is feasible and possible if a person has mastered the art of building corporate credit, sets their club up as a division of their parent corp, thus allowing them to disconnect the club's division or bankrupt it should things not work out, without affecting the main corporation, or it's other divisions.

    That said, I don't feel a major metro area is the place for one to buy a club. Too many politics are involved in staying open.

    Since I work bookings in small clubs in small towns in the Upper Midwest, I feel that is the way to go. Many ordinary people purchase clubs in those areas, and although many are run hands on by the owners, the cost of living is lower and so is the overhead.

    Those clubs are open Mon-Sat from 5 until 1or 1:30, book 4-5 girls at $300-$400 a week base pay and bring in another 2-3 girls to work for tips. Each $20 dance the dancer pays $5 to the club which goes towards the base pay. So the bar and cover charge if any goes towards the bottom line, and the $5 per dance covers most if not all of the base pay.

    You don't have to worry about any mafia megaclub trying to muscle you out of business in the small towns.

    If you know how to build corporate credit, within 6 months you could have $100,000 or maybe several times that to get started with, which is more than enough to operate and purchase a smaller club.

    The smaller town markets aren't full of macho hard head type guys such as what you have in LA. These small town older guys are lonely and willing to pay for company. A juice bar in LA will mostly attract hard head young customers who could give a fuck about buying dances. The Inland Empire areas are rough and you may have a lot of issues with gangs and weapons. Too many thug mentality guys live in the LA metro area. I am not against opening a strip club, because those who know how to set one up and incorporate properly can make money or use it as a write off for other corporate profits. There are better places to buy one than in So Cal.

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    I live in the inland empire and i have to drive an hour each way to work at a club that is neither topless, to restrictive and cheap, or a whorehouse. I do think we need more selection out here, in the form of a nude club where the dances are not ridiculously cheap (like fullnude, full contact 2 songs $25) or the other club where customers expect at least a handjob. The two nearest nude clubs to my house meet one or the other of those descriptions, and here in california there is no way i would do a full contact nude dance for less than 40 bucks. The rest of the clubs are topless, and in my opinion in this area the earning potential is much lower in topless dancing. I know most people have been less than supportive but i do hope that either you or someone else would open up a new full nude club around here. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    Buying a strip club is feasible and possible if a person has mastered the art of building corporate credit, sets their club up as a division of their parent corp, thus allowing them to disconnect the club's division or bankrupt it should things not work out, without affecting the main corporation, or it's other divisions.

    That said, I don't feel a major metro area is the place for one to buy a club. Too many politics are involved in staying open.

    Since I work bookings in small clubs in small towns in the Upper Midwest, I feel that is the way to go. Many ordinary people purchase clubs in those areas, and although many are run hands on by the owners, the cost of living is lower and so is the overhead.

    Those clubs are open Mon-Sat from 5 until 1or 1:30, book 4-5 girls at $300-$400 a week base pay and bring in another 2-3 girls to work for tips. Each $20 dance the dancer pays $5 to the club which goes towards the base pay. So the bar and cover charge if any goes towards the bottom line, and the $5 per dance covers most if not all of the base pay.

    You don't have to worry about any mafia megaclub trying to muscle you out of business in the small towns.

    If you know how to build corporate credit, within 6 months you could have $100,000 or maybe several times that to get started with, which is more than enough to operate and purchase a smaller club.

    The smaller town markets aren't full of macho hard head type guys such as what you have in LA. These small town older guys are lonely and willing to pay for company. A juice bar in LA will mostly attract hard head young customers who could give a fuck about buying dances. The Inland Empire areas are rough and you may have a lot of issues with gangs and weapons. Too many thug mentality guys live in the LA metro area. I am not against opening a strip club, because those who know how to set one up and incorporate properly can make money or use it as a write off for other corporate profits. There are better places to buy one than in So Cal.

    omg Tina,
    thank you for taking me seriously,
    and not just telling me im stupid
    and am doomed to fail,
    thank you for not emediatly selling me short.

    and yes,
    i completely understand you when you say smaller towns are a better way to go,
    i had origionally intended to start
    somewhere between what is norco and what is temecula along I-15,
    there are a few smaller towns along the way that would be prime locations.
    and i thought about the corporate deal,
    with incorporating in nevada for the cheaper corporate tax,
    and the lower liability to my self and my buisness partners personal assets

    but at the club i go to most of the time
    they have a lot more girls
    than you have said,
    but i suppose i should start with less girls
    and then add more dancers as we start
    to get a more regular customer bass

    oh
    and once again thank you for
    not just selling me short right off the bat

    ive also been told that i would have to give
    "kick backs" to the city
    that seemed about right
    but what kind of figures are we talking here?



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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkkitten
    I live in the inland empire and i have to drive an hour each way to work at a club that is neither topless, to restrictive and cheap, or a whorehouse. I do think we need more selection out here, in the form of a nude club where the dances are not ridiculously cheap (like fullnude, full contact 2 songs $25) or the other club where customers expect at least a handjob. The two nearest nude clubs to my house meet one or the other of those descriptions, and here in california there is no way i would do a full contact nude dance for less than 40 bucks. The rest of the clubs are topless, and in my opinion in this area the earning potential is much lower in topless dancing. I know most people have been less than supportive but i do hope that either you or someone else would open up a new full nude club around here. good luck.
    well,
    i was thinking full
    nude,
    no alchohol
    18+ so you can get the 18-20 demographic

    25 for a lap dance thats only topless
    and 40 for one song nude

    vip
    120 for 3 songs


    and yes i am going to open it,
    its at least a year away
    but have it for certain it will.


    financial backing will never be an issue


    there are many clubs

    along I-10 in san bernardino county

    but

    i hear bad things about manegment in most of these establishments

    the money at tropical lei in upland is good but girls get a lot of
    grief from the bouncers and the djs there.


    i hope you can find a good club to work at

    at least until mine opens its doors lol

    cheers
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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    I'm not against people opening clubs up as competitions is a healthy thing in such an economy as USA and AU ...........I am against people who have more money than sense opening up a club when there are PLENTY of other business opportunities out there for you to sink money into that has a higher chance of actually succeeding.

    Have you actually looked outside the nightclub and sex industries ? There are PLENTY of other industries with plenty of other opportunities.

    After working in strip clubs, it is the last thing I would actually want to own! Even here in Australia which doesn't seem to be so restrictive as USA.

    Oh as for you wanting to attract the 18-20 demographic - they aren't worth attracting IMO. The legal age here in Australia is 18 and all the clubs I have ever worked in I can definatley say that I do not make my money on anyone below the age of 20.

    Usually they don't bother as they can get some gal in the local nightclub so why the hell should they part with their precious dollars for a tease/lap dance ? Think about it.

    Have you done enough research on your 18-20 year old demographic?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    I'm not against people opening clubs up as competitions is a healthy thing in such an economy as USA and AU ...........I am against people who have more money than sense opening up a club when there are PLENTY of other business opportunities out there for you to sink money into that has a higher chance of actually succeeding.

    Have you actually looked outside the nightclub and sex industries ? There are PLENTY of other industries with plenty of other opportunities.

    After working in strip clubs, it is the last thing I would actually want to own! Even here in Australia which doesn't seem to be so restrictive as USA.

    Oh as for you wanting to attract the 18-20 demographic - they aren't worth attracting IMO. The legal age here in Australia is 18 and all the clubs I have ever worked in I can definatley say that I do not make my money on anyone below the age of 20.

    Usually they don't bother as they can get some gal in the local nightclub so why the hell should they part with their precious dollars for a tease/lap dance ? Think about it.

    Have you done enough research on your 18-20 year old demographic?

    i actually have looked into a few other industries,
    nothing retail or food service,
    those dont seem to be worth while.

    i have looked into some commercial buisnesses
    such as, owning a fleet or tow trucks, or sweepers
    or even logistics.

    but those dont quite draw my attention as the adult entertainment industry

    as far as researching the 18-20 demographic goes,
    theres my self and about 10 people under the age of 20 i know
    that frequently visit these places
    and the fact that everytime i go to a strip club theres plenty of guys that
    are barely legal in there enjoying the show.
    or maybe its just me but i always make it worth the dancers while
    and so do my friends,
    and no we are not rich kids with trust funds.
    bottom line is theres plenty of money to be made from young guys
    in fact some of the older guys are cheaper.

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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_dude
    I'll give 100 to 1 odds that Enesto's strip club fails miserably in the first year. Any takers???

    wow
    thats a bold statement come from a guy
    whos name is SC_dude hahaha
    but thats fine.

    say what you will,
    if i fail ill just pick up and try again,
    you under estimate me way to much.

    I never said I was doing it alone
    I also never said I wasnt hiring experienced
    professionals to aid in the start up process.

    but thanks for the kinds words

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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    You said the guys were enjoying the show. They always enjoy...they just never spend money. Cater to richer clientel. Also, you're under twenty?! I wouldn't trust you to fix my computer let alone run my company. You really do have NO idea.


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    I'm with lilithmorrigan.
    The 18-21 year old crowd is worthless. They don't have much of an income and are certainly not the type of repeat customers that you would make money off of. Instead of trying to get rich off kids, skip the middleman and go straight to dad's pockets.

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    Or you could always just buy a pre-existing club.
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74477

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    You said the guys were enjoying the show. They always enjoy...they just never spend money. Cater to richer clientel. Also, you're under twenty?! I wouldn't trust you to fix my computer let alone run my company. You really do have NO idea.
    yeah
    i enjoy the show but i
    spend liberally as well
    and the people i go with too,
    but there are some that are cheap too
    well every time i go i hit the vip at least 2 or 3 times
    and i see young guys going to the vip all the time
    like every demographic so its a bit of a push hahaha
    are you sure you wouldnt trust me to fix your pc?
    im cisco and compTIA cetified


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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee
    I'm with lilithmorrigan.
    The 18-21 year old crowd is worthless. They don't have much of an income and are certainly not the type of repeat customers that you would make money off of. Instead of trying to get rich off kids, skip the middleman and go straight to dad's pockets.


    but im young,
    im not rich and dont feed off dad,
    in fact i support mom and lil bro.
    when i go
    spend hundreds and
    im a repeat customer,
    but i know what you mean
    not everyone is like me.
    and i probably am better of
    going for the people
    with expense accounts and
    lots of spare cash


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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee
    Or you could always just buy a pre-existing club.
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74477

    yes thats a possibility
    but not something advertised by
    thebarbroker.com
    or stripclubbroker.com
    or anything else they are affiliated with,
    i dont trust them everything they run is way
    too shady for me.

    but she did post the address
    im sure the owner him/herself
    would be a better source

    thanks for this post :-)

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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Alright let me put it this way. Do you think you'll make more in ten-twenty years or the same? So, wouldn't you, even if you have money now, have even more to spend in the future? Older people have more money, fact of life.


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    Um, so not being bitchy, but I've been all over this country, nice clubs, crappy clubs, and everything in between. I am yet to have the "kids" (18-20 year olds) make up a large portion of the money I make each night. Even in military towns where most of the guys are young, it's the 21+ guys that tended to spend more money.
    I'm only 22, and I know damn well throwing a ton of money into a club at my age would be basically throwing it out the window. City council, politicians, etc. don't normally take people that are so young that seriously, especially if they can sense you don't 100% know what you are doing.If it was that easy don't you think every guy that likes strip clubs would be opening up shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee
    Um, so not being bitchy, but I've been all over this country, nice clubs, crappy clubs, and everything in between. I am yet to have the "kids" (18-20 year olds) make up a large portion of the money I make each night. Even in military towns where most of the guys are young, it's the 21+ guys that tended to spend more money.
    I'm only 22, and I know damn well throwing a ton of money into a club at my age would be basically throwing it out the window. City council, politicians, etc. don't normally take people that are so young that seriously, especially if they can sense you don't 100% know what you are doing.If it was that easy don't you think every guy that likes strip clubs would be opening up shop?

    yeah,
    i knwo what you mean,
    and yeah most guys my age dont spend a lot
    there, i do lol. I suppose I am the exception,
    and I dont know all that much about buisness
    and such, but my buisness partner Is 25
    and he already owns a buisness, so Im getting
    a lot of help from him in terms of learning
    all the legal aspects and everything on paper.

    but like ive admited myself,
    I am young and I dont know what I am doing
    thats why I am getting help from everywhere I can.

    cheers
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    hate is a false pretense given to one by a bleeding heart. lust is not a friend of love, yet it gets the heart pumping. love is an emotion in its own right, it can lead to many difficult crossroads, the avenue of sorrow and apathy are in downtown heart ache, population one too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    Alright let me put it this way. Do you think you'll make more in ten-twenty years or the same? So, wouldn't you, even if you have money now, have even more to spend in the future? Older people have more money, fact of life.
    yeah that is true,
    but I am ambitious.
    I hope to be making the kind of money i would be making at 30 or 40
    when im in my 20's
    theres a 90% chance I will fail,
    but I look at the glass as half full lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxernestoxx
    theres a 90% chance I will fail,
    but I look at the glass as half full lol
    Except a half full/empty glass has 50%.

    If you think you have a 90% chance of failure is it really worth screwing up a financial situation so early in life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee
    Except a half full/empty glass has 50%.

    If you think you have a 90% chance of failure is it really worth screwing up a financial situation so early in life?
    yes
    it is 50/50
    but the odds are futher against me.
    Well,
    it could go either way,
    yes it could be a huge screw up,
    before im even old enough to drink,
    but the risk could he worth it if its a success.
    If it doesnt work out, Ill at least know I tried.
    Chances are I'll try again.


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    Default Re: Opening a club in SOCAL, what do dancers want from a club?

    Ok, I will put it this way....

    I was at a club's grand opening with another feature last week. This club was opened by guys that owned clubs in the same town as this one, and the other clubs are VERY successful. It is in a building that used to be a strip club, so it's not like they built a new place in a lot where nothing has ever been before. It's a beautiful club with top notch everything, they spent serious money putting this place together.

    There was a VIP private party on Wednesday and girls were making money hand over fist. Seriously, it was nuts. But they opened for business for the general public on Thursday and it was past dead. It was dead the rest of the week. I don't think it's any one thing that they have done, it's just going to take a while to build up the customers, but they have the $$$$$ to plunk down in the meantime to let girls have free housefee and other things to get them to stay.

    Basically, if you don't have the $$ to lose your ass for a while, and you think you have a 90% chance of failing, why invest in a SC? Even if you are doing something else that's not as "fun" or whatever makes having a SC appealing to you, wouldn't you rather have money to spend to support yourself and your family? Life isn't fun for most people at their jobs, sorry but that's the reality of it.

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    Default Re: Opening a club in SOCAL, what do dancers want from a club?

    I am not being a half empty type of person, but California is not the place to go. Plus, starting a club from scratch is very likely to meet resistance no matter where one goes.

    Buying an existing club is the only thing that will work as most of them are grandfathered in.

    And the states that offer the best chance for success are Montana, South Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and western rural Illinois in small towns of less than 30,000 people. Research all the clubs in those areas, and there are probably some owners who already have liquor licenses, and who would be willing to sell where the chance of increasing the business exists, and you can operate with minimal legal hassles. Rural communities with family farming as the predominant source of income offer a decent bet of your getting into this business and staying in business. Most other states just aren't the same, and I have been in a lot of them and danced in over 20 states.

    In the heavily populated states, a small club owner has to have a glitzier operation to attract money spending customers. In the states I mentioned small town guys with money go to the modest looking clubs and aren't concerned about how fancy the building looks.

    California is just too populated of a state and strip club regulations are too abundant there.

    If you REALLY want to break into the strip club business Ernesto, trust me and look into any clubs for sale in the small towns of the states I mentioned.

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