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    seriously, are we the only country in the world that doesn't celebrate halloween?

    i wonder why we never picked that tradition up. i wanna go trick-or-treating

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    because alot of us aussies (i know this is how my parents felt) see it as an American custom just like ThanksGiving.

    What alot of aussies fail to note is that halloween falls on the same day as a similiar Pagan holiday in the Northern Hemisphere. Pagans here generally do not celebrate the Pagan holiday associated with Halloween (All Hallows/Samhain) as it is a screwed up time to celebrate death.

    Instead it is a time for us Aussie pagans to celebrate Beltaine and considering it is the start of the BushFire season ... it is very fitting in a way.

    Then again, it really depends upon your friends. Who says you can't celebrate it? Have a private party? I celebrated Halloween a few times as I had a mixed Halloween and Birthday Party (2 in 1 party lol!) thru my teens.


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    Lol, you couldn't trick-or-treat anyway. Adults aren't allowed.

    Now drunken costumed parties are a WHOLE other matter...


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    Costume parties would be the closest you get. Hey drop by my house, I even have that cherry ripe candy!!
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    Neener Neener neener..........................

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    Adults SOOOO can go trick or treating. You just have to make sure to go in a group. It's also a good idea to bring good candy to trade with the houses when you stop and make small talk.

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    I always thought it was strange that we dont celebrate it much here since in Britain we do although its not like the American thing, or at least wasnt when I left. I dont know why so many people think its purely an American tradition either or even why that is suposedly a reason not to celebrate it...
    I must say though like Aussie Christmas, it just seems wrong to me to have it when its hot! :-D

    My adult male friends used to take my son and various other kids trick or treating here. It was a good excuse for them to drink beer and great for us girls to have a break and beer without them (-:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    What alot of aussies fail to note is that halloween falls on the same day as a similiar Pagan holiday in the Northern Hemisphere. Pagans here generally do not celebrate the Pagan holiday associated with Halloween (All Hallows/Samhain) as it is a screwed up time to celebrate death.
    And don't forget Day of the Dead in Mexico. Technically it starts at midnight on November 1st.

    And hey, you so CAN go trick-or-treating. Just take a couple of children along (assuming you're not allergic to 'em) and mooch off them.
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    las rNext year I might do a Halloween / Vanessa's Birthday mixed party as it is then a great reason for all of us to dress up and will make things a little more interesting esp. if we go out !

    Well.. it's 7.30pm... I havn't had anyone knock on our unit's door yet nor have I heard anyone trick or treating in the street... maybe Surfers doesn't do it as much as some suburbs on the Coast.

    http://www.draculas.com.au/ is probably doing a decent trade tonight. That's an nice adult way to celebrate Halloween..........................any time of year!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    Lol, you couldn't trick-or-treat anyway. Adults aren't allowed.
    you'd think so but (LOL) some of my friends and I dressed up and went trick o treating around our apartment complex 2 years ago and people still gave us candy!!

    I'm pretty sure we'd been drinking that night

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    Halloween in America doesn't even seem to be the same as it was say 20 years ago. There doesn't seem to be too many kids out and about these days whereas when I was a kid I swear to God there were GANGS of trick-or-treaters clogging up suburban streets. Now they just clog up the mall going store to store instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney
    Halloween in America doesn't even seem to be the same as it was say 20 years ago. There doesn't seem to be too many kids out and about these days whereas when I was a kid I swear to God there were GANGS of trick-or-treaters clogging up suburban streets. Now they just clog up the mall going store to store instead.
    Very true, we used to go out in troths, but I guess that's a thing of the past

    Really, it isn't as safe as it should be, not that it was all Wisteria Lane back then, but these phuckers are crazier now.

    All the churches around me are having a big joint Hallo-lujah party. They've been doing in for a few years, I've heard. Its supposed to be inter-denominational, so it provides a safer alternative for the kiddies, w/o a lecture on Halloween being about the devil etc.
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    some little bastards were scrounging round our neighbourhood with coles bags...

    not quite the same amount of effort that goes in up in the northern hem.

    i got to eat the candy we bought for the 'kids' because we live in a place they can't get to. i crack myself up... ***gobbles candy***

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJayda
    Very true, we used to go out in troths, but I guess that's a thing of the past

    Really, it isn't as safe as it should be, not that it was all Wisteria Lane back then, but these phuckers are crazier now.

    All the churches around me are having a big joint Hallo-lujah party. They've been doing in for a few years, I've heard. Its supposed to be inter-denominational, so it provides a safer alternative for the kiddies, w/o a lecture on Halloween being about the devil etc.
    damn right, and I used to sell my girl scout cookies DOOR TO DOOR. By myself! And nobody thought that was weird.

    Were there less wackos then? I doubt it. My guess is less sensationalism. We still had the razor blade in the candy story, but it never stopped kids from going out. And hell no did we go trick-or-treating with our parents. That was lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily
    damn right, and I used to sell my girl scout cookies DOOR TO DOOR. By myself! And nobody thought that was weird.
    Me too!!! I was with a friend but we were like 9 years old! Nobody does that anymore! The kids don't even seem to really sell the cookies anymore. Instead the parents take orders at work.

    And don't even get me started on those bullshit school "fundraisers"

    DF, I think you should throw a halloween party next year.


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    According to a newspaper today that I read the police are convinced that Halloween happened due to the type of pranks that were pulled were generally traditionally Halloween pranks (involving eggs and toilet paper).

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...30-421,00.html

    Who says we don't celebrate? According to the above news article we do. Also, according to the news article, "our growing love of the American tradition, Halloween, will see thousands of Australians - young and old - dressing up tonight to celebrate the annual event."

    .... this is also the exact reason why some people refuse to celebrate Halloween... not the Pagan overtones of it all but the fact that it is just yet another American tradition that is invading our Australian way of life. It isn't my opinion however I know plenty of people who have held that position through-out my life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJayda
    Really, it isn't as safe as it should be, not that it was all Wisteria Lane back then, but these phuckers are crazier now.
    Actually, crime has been dropping in the US since the late 1980's. The drop became dramaticly lower just before 9/11. This year has seen the first increase in violent crimes in the US since like, 1988 or something.

    I see Halloween as the American Equivilent to Carnivale in Europe. American's have an agriculturally based society, and Halloween is a good time to relax and celebrate the end of the harvest and a long season of hard work. That is likely why it has taken off here as a holiday more than in other places, as it follows our growing season and is a nice time to have fun and get out before the weather turns too foul in the winter. It is also a time when most American's are starting to see an increase in income from the lull over the summer. They have a little extra cash and can afford to go play a bit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    ...halloween falls on the same day as a similiar Pagan holiday in the Northern Hemisphere. Pagans here generally do not celebrate the Pagan holiday associated with Halloween (All Hallows/Samhain) ...

    Actually, you started to make a good point there, Halloween falls around Samhain in the northern hemisphere, (it's related to the wheel of the year and harvest etc), and those of us in the southern hemisphere celebrate beltane around the same date, because our seasons are reversed.

    So it's not that pagans in the S.H. DON'T celebrate Samhain, it's just that we celebrate it around May. Just before OUR winter.
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