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    Ok, at my club..its kind of weird/annoying.

    So, our "private dances", are 20 bucks a song. pretty standard. however, we only get HALF. while making 10 bucks for 3 minutes is still pretty good...its not really fair.

    there is a guy who is in the backroom (where all the private booths are), and he counts how many dances we do. we collect the 20 dollars ourselves from the customers. and IF we dont get the cash(the guys ducks out on us, which isnt very often, but it happened 2 me once) we still have to pay the 10 dollars a dance. THEN,so at the end of the night, they count how many dances we do...and then we have to pay them 10 dollars for each dance we did...(AKA half of the money we have in our purse that we got from the custys!)

    so like one time i did alot of dances...i did like 39. so i proabbly had like 650 in my purse, but then i had to give them 390! so then of course i only ended up with 390, plus stage money.

    dont most places have a set "house fee" if so, how much does it usually run? im sure it varies from club to club. but how about your club? so if u dont make enuff money that night to pay the house fee, u have to pay out of yer own cash, right?

    maybe i shud find a club with a house fee. would u think that would be better?

    thanks for the input!
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    I've paid anywhere between $20-$55 for housefees in Dallas and Vegas. My home club in Denver doesn't have a housefee but we pay the taxes on our tips... We're all very creative accountants but you can't pay less than $32 if you're working day or $46 if you're working nights.

    After taxes and tipouts, I part with about 20% of my earnings. Some girls sacrifice less of thier income at my club (there is no tipout rule, only an unspoken suggestion of what you should tip) but I give what I'm comfortable with. 20% is fair to me. I would never, ever work in a club that took half my earnings.

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    In Pennsylvania where I worked before I moved to Vegas, they did not have house fees, but they took half of all lap dances, and CR.
    The pro of this method is you never leave in the negative, if you dont make money, neither do they. In vegas, you pay $60- $115 a shift, and it dont matter if you make that back or not, you pay it.
    The downside to them taking half is when you sit down and think of what you could have made. I have spend all 8 hours doing room after room, and still leaving with $500, because they took half, and their prices werent very high to begin with.

    I perfer paying a set house fee. Sometimes i dont make it back, but I like keeping everything I make....although that isnt really true because tip out in Vegas is so damn high to get anywhere(made 760 in a room last night, and tipped out 200, then cashed in my funny money, I walked from that deal with $509) but thats a different story.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas_dancer
    Sometimes i dont make it back, but I like keeping everything I make....although that isnt really true because tip out in Vegas is so damn high to get anywhere(made 760 in a room last night, and tipped out 200, then cashed in my funny money, I walked from that deal with $509) but thats a different story.........
    Vegas_dancer, are you saying you voluntarily tipped $200 off the top or you didn't really mean to?

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    you know, I'd say go to another club, but I guess you're kinda stuck in Hawaii....and they know it!

    Sometimes a flat fee is better (some clubs do a house fee AND percentage). I would just go where I leave with the most money as long as the mileage is the same.

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    like VegasDancer, I always preferred to pay a fixed dollar amount house fee - which in some Manhattan clubs ran from $100 to $200+ per night - rather than having to 'split' private dance money 50-50 with the club. The fixed dollar amount house fee in theory at least hits up all dancers equally in terms of helping to pay for the club's mortgage, property taxes, advertising etc. The fixed dollar amount house fee then permits dancers who are willing to hustle their asses off to keep the 'fruits of their labors'. Thus a fixed dollar amount house fee tends to attract 'primo' dancers.

    However, at the same time, the fixed dollar amount house fee also puts other dancers who aren't willing to hustle, or who don't have the 'goods' to appeal to a lot of customers, in a position where they could walk out of the club with nothing unless the do sell the minimum number of private dances necessary to cover the house fee. This in turn dissuades 'marginal' dancers from working at such clubs. In cities where lots of 'primo' dancers are looking for work, this isn't a problem. However. in cities which don't have a lot of 'primo' dancers available, this can lead to problems for clubowners in finding enough girls to fill the club.

    The 50-50 split arrangement does just the opposite ... it encourages 'marginal' dancers to work at the club because there is no 'risk' if dancers don't actually earn much money from private dances, and it discourages 'primo' dancers since the 50% dollar volume taken out of their private dance earnings by the club can add up to a huge number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas_dancer
    (made 760 in a room last night, and tipped out 200, then cashed in my funny money, I walked from that deal with $509)
    I haven't been to Vegas to work for a couple years now... Just haven't had the time or gumption. Got my liscence renewal in the mail yesterday and I don't think I'll be writting the check for it this year.

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    It was voluntary. 20% of 760 is 160. Sine I did not find that customer myself, ( he walked into the club and went straight to the VIP, and asked the floor guy to find him a girl) since the bouncer got me specificially, I gave him a little extra, so that he remembers to find me again. I dont often tip that much, but it had been awhile since I tipped that particular floor guy, and I try to stay on their good graces. They have a long list of favorties, and they only way to be a favorite is by how much you give. I have found by trail and error which bouncers you can tip, and they hook you up, and which ones you tip, and they never do a thing for you. The ones that take care of me, I take care of.

    If I find the customer myself, and take him into VIP, I never tip that much. It depends on who is working the VIP rom, and if they tried to upsell my time, or if they often find customers for me.

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    ^^^I hear you. I've found out the hard way not to waste time tipping hosts who don't help or even antagonize me or the guys.

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    Being in Canada...this is too familiar.

    Here, table dances are $30...some clubs take $10 per dance, some $15. Depending on where you are working!

    There are no house fees, some clubs have a manditory Security tip of $2, that goes to the guy who sits in the back room with you to ensure you don't have any problems!

    We have a manditory number of dances that MUST be done in the course of the week! We have 6 day contracts here! Freelancers have no manditory count.

    Should a girl not complete here manditory number of dances, she MUST pay the club their cut regardless. Some club are 20 dances...some are 50.....so that means that even if you dont sell your 20, you still pay the club $200.

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    I'd find a way to let the customer know that the club takes a big cut and sweet talk him into paying $25 or $30 for a dance. It's always worth a try. I wouldn't come right out and say it, but there are ways of letting custies know, and some of them even ask.
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    We cap out after our first 6 or 7 dances where I work. After that any dances you get after that, all the money is yours. We also have a house fee. That runs 30 on weekdays, 20 on Sundays, and 50 on weekends. We can reduce our house fee by selling drinks. For every drink we sell they will knock 5 dollars off our house fee. When I first started, they took 7 dollars out of every lap dance and we did not cap out. The house fee was only 5 dollars.
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    I've been to places that charge a fee of $10 a dance, though most I've worked out charge $5 or less. When they charge $10.....I just charge more for the dance.

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    I'd say look around. At my old HITW club, I had to pay 1/2 of my dance money PLUS a house fee, PLUS any fines. One night, I made $600...but after the dance money, it was $300 and THEN I had to pay $100 house fee. So, out of $600, I walked with $200 and the club got $400. Fuck that. I left.

    Look around and see if you can find anything better. If you do, then discreetly try out the new club. If it doesn't work out, you can always go back to your old club.

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    Blech. That would drive me insane. I pay $25 fee, with a $5-$10 DJ tip. And that's it. Ever. If I make $850, I walk with $810. To leave with $400...I'd be so frustrated. But sometimes the area offers what it does, and there isn't much of a choice I guess (like contact levels...you kinda have to go with the norm, or close enough, to make money).

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    I'm pretty happy with the percentage thing, actually. My club essentially asks for 20% of what we earn in a night, which covers tip-out to the DJ, bartender, and bouncer. The percentages are a little different regarding VIP, but I think what they ask for is very fair: I don't have to worry about tipping everyone and their brother and their dog, and if I don't make very much money in a night I don't have to pay the club with my own money.

    I'm quite sure some girls are dishonest about what they bring in (the DJ counts dances, but there's no way to keep track of stage tips), but I kind of figure...why bother...I like my job, I like the club, it isn't right to cheat them.

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    Gosh, I guess I've gotten spoiled at my club. As long as we're there by 8pm, it's a $33 tipout M-F and $28 Saturday and Sunday-which, to me, is more than fair. I couldn't imagine having to give away half of my dance money, that's insane!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon
    Blech. That would drive me insane. I pay $25 fee, with a $5-$10 DJ tip. And that's it. Ever. If I make $850, I walk with $810. To leave with $400...I'd be so frustrated. But sometimes the area offers what it does, and there isn't much of a choice I guess (like contact levels...you kinda have to go with the norm, or close enough, to make money).
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    I pay a $35 house fee and $5 from every $20 dance. I guess that's not terrible, but it's not great either, but whatever, I walk away with good money, even if I do give up a lot of it, but I bounce around, or am starting to, to find the best one there is where I personally make the most.
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    Well there's a club in vegas, that charges you if you are late or missed a day. Of course dancers are independent contractors, so how the hell they can enforce that rule is beyond me. Anyway the fee, I heard was about $100 and they keep a record of it to for years. I've heard dancers say that they could not go back because they owe them hundreds of dollars, for being late years ago.

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    Windy you probably work for a chain. Bleh.. dont care for most chains.
    Anyways, I pay 0-20 for house fee (can be more if I come later) and tip 20 or more to the dj and tip 20 for the bouncers to split.
    At my modeling studio I pay 70 or 80 house fee depending if I work day or night and dont tip anyone.

    They are ripping you off basically. I worked at a club like yours where dances were 20 and I got to keep 12 of it. Plus gave a 3 dance/ 60 dollar VIP and I kept 45. Plus 30 house fee and tipping everyone out. I once paid out 262! I also think they over counted my dances as well but thats another story. I left to another club w/o tipping anyone that night b/c I was pissed and never looked back.

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    It sounds like Australia however the most any club has ever taken in a percentage is 40%. One club one time was a 50/50 split however learnt pretty quickly why they should allow the dancer that little bit extra (even if it is only 10%) to have the majority of the dance money.

    At least in Australia you do not have to tip anyone unless you feel it is justified (good service, someone bringing you a really great customer, etc) so all you part with is the percentage of the dance at the end of the night.

    It might be a bitch yet if there really is no better offering club-wise in your area then you may have to just suck it up and take it. It's unfair however you are still walking out with decent money at the end of the night (in a way).... especially if it is easy for you to make $400 (take home $200) per night there over 5 nights.


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    hey everyone thanks for the inputs.

    so i was thinkin bout going 2 another club, but its hard to find ones in hawaii that arent sleezy and will hire under 21. there are only like 4 clubs that arent sleazy, make decent money and aren't runned down or "dirty" with extras AND That might hire under 21. plus im on a fuckin small island so tough luck haha

    anyhooo, but i wish i cud bring this topic up at my club. like goldcoastgirl was saying, that a club learnt that the dancers shud earn a little more..( i mean, we ARE doing the work! we are the ones fending off our bodies for gropey pervs and dancing naked for strangers haha)

    some of these clubs u girls metioned sound nice...like not much tipout and u get most of the money. i think thats how it shud be. i know the clubs have to make money too, but i think the dancers shud make a little more, since we are doing the work. i mean, the club gets tons of money from ALL the dancers there, shudnt ONE dancer get most of HER money?

    *sigh* ill figure out somethin. its like wen u make good money, which i am, u jus think "wow if i went here..or did this..i could make MORE!" u just figure there must be more out there!

    and sassfire, .that club in vegas sounds weird!
    theres one club here that i checked out that u PAY them to work(like 70 bucks on a weekday, 100 bucks on a weekend), HOWEVER, u must work FOUR DAYS a week, AND if u miss a day,(u cant call sick, u have to have a doctors note!!) u have to pay them 100 bucks! thats so stupid, itsl ike your paying THEM to work there, and if YOU miss a day, u have to pay them again? ha BULLSHIT!

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    Seriously Windy, go to Femme Nu. They pay you. Plus your only pay out and tip out is $20 to the DJ. Thats it!

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