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    So last night not even 20min after dollar dances(which I completly despise but thats a whole other rant) they called us to the back to tell us that were not moving around enough and that they are going to send us out there to do free table dances for these broke ass custys. They told us that there are custys that are leaving saying that they were there for hours and didnt get a single girl to talk to them Well there is always a reason why and why the hell is the club believing these pigs anyways. Ask us and we will tell you why nobody went near them

    The bouncers tried to reassure us that we would get tipped and not really dance for free. Ha Ha not one damn girl was tipped I mean why should they when they just got a free dance! So we were warned that if we dont want to do that again then we need to make sure that were moving around and not sitting for more than 20min unless were getting paid for it. If I sit on my ass all night and dont get paid then its nobodys fault but my own but shit its my money I choose how I make it not the club!!

    Okay well I feel better thanks for listening to my rant if you took the time to read it.

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    Wow, that sucks. Well I guess their "sales" tactic crashed and burned. I hope this doesn't create a spiraling effect. If this happens again, customers will grow to just accept the fact that if they dont' spend they'll make money anyway. I'm curious though, were no girls sitting and talking with customers?







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    We were all sitting and talking with customers. We were busy and working with 20 girls so there were guys that didnt have girls with them at the time. They want us to make time for every girl to try to sit with every guy for atleast a little while through out the night. Wether they are spending or not.

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    This is my feelings "If he ain't spending, I ain't sitting with him", it's as simple as that! The jerks (not always, but many times) that are sitting alone is most likely because girls did approach them and they didn't spend anything. I watched the room before and seen girls approach a customer, talk with him for a minute and then get up a leave and this happen over and over again. So, I did a little experiment, (me still being new to the business) I went over to the customer because he was dressed like he had money and for out of towners I always ask what hotel they're staying at, he said "The Ritz Carlton", ok, you do have money!!! I got a drink, sat with him for about 2 songs, brought up the dance thing, wasn't interested, brought up the VIP, wasn't interested. So, I say to him, it was nice talking to you, thank you for the drink but I have to get back to work now. He says with an evil smile "Sorry for wasting your time". That's when I wanted to kick him in the balls!!!!! So, if there are guys that don't have anyone and it's been a while, it's because I'm sure many girls approached him and he was a "time user" only!!! So, for those guys in your club that were crying because they didn't have a girl, it's serves them right!!!! And if my club told me I had to do a free dance, I'd just so happen to be in the bathroom and actually "going".

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    WOW .. that is crappy. Lets think about this .. guys arent spending money .. lets give it to them for free .. thall make em come off the cash! .. DOH .. you have got to be kidding me. This is the stupidist sales tactic I have ever heard.
    This is exactly what dollar dances are suppposed to do .. give em a little preview for a buck so they will buy the real thing. Problem is .. it dosent usually work like that.
    Free dances to get custys to spend is reduculous. I would have refused. they are already getting free entertainment by watching girls on stage .. they hardly need any more than that.
    If the club makes that a habbit, it will just train the custys not to spend money. It would be like 2 for 1 clubs. Many custys dont buy dances .. they wait for the two for ones cuz they know they are coming.

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    The shitty thing is they told us that if we didnt dance we would owe the club $10 dollars the cost of the table dance.

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    OMG .. well .. I guess .. if the custys wont buy them .. we can always make the girls buy them for them selves .. lol
    I am sure .. in some fucked up world .. in some zantarded managers head .. that all makes sence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destiny2980
    The shitty thing is they told us that if we didnt dance we would owe the club $10 dollars the cost of the table dance.
    If it's possible to get all the dancers together and protest it then that could be an option. Just recently, about a month or so ago my club did that where they were doing a "free dance" but the club paid us for it, they were experimenting with it. All the girls were told early in the night that a free dance was going to happen but they club was going to pay us in which they did at the end of the night.

    I wasn't in the room at the time this question was asked to the girls, one of the dancers told me about what was said. One of the managers/housemom asked a group of the dancers what they thought about the free dance and if they'd be willing to do it actually for free (w/o the club paying us) and the girl that told me she said out loud "I'm not showing my pu$$y for free!!!" And as far as I know, that was the end of the free dance thing because we haven't done it since.

    You girls need to lay it out, you're not doing it for free and you're not paying the club either. I know this is the stripping world and it's different than the "real" world but IMO, NOBODY can make you do anything for free, especially since you're not an employee of the club. You girls need to protest this because the next thing that will happen is customers will sit around and not buy as many dances because they're going to wait for the free dance. When you devalue something ($1 dances, free dances, 2 for 1, etc.) it doesn't make it worth anything and customers will see it that way. If worse comes to worse, is there another club you could go to?

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    Then just give them the worst one motion air dance in the world. F*ck that.

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    The shitty thing is they told us that if we didnt dance we would owe the club $10 dollars the cost of the table dance.
    ^^^ This is total Bullshit from a legal standpoint. If the earnings potential and customer spending patterns at this club is SO BAD that the club is prepared to extort money from dancers in lieu of forcing non-employee dancers to perform services for free, you might as well try to use the 'Labor Board' card. The only way that club management can force dancers to perform services for free is if those dancers are treated as EMPLOYEES ... meaning a minimum wage hourly paycheck from the club plus unemployment and workmen's comp benefits at a bare minimum.

    When you devalue something ($1 dances, free dances, 2 for 1, etc.) it doesn't make it worth anything and customers will see it that way
    Yup, if the dancers in your club go along with the 'mandatory free table dance' scenario, within a week there won't be any more PAID table dances ... which will result in a permanent reduction in the (apparently already sucky) dancers' earning potential at this club. Club management may be thinking that 'mandatory free table dances' will attract more customers to your clubs from surrounding club, which is probably a true assumption, and one that will result in higher club income via cover charges and mandatory drink sales. However, from the standpoint of dancers at your club, it simply means that you'll be required to perform twice as many free table dances in exchange for zero additional income.

    If this club expects dancers to perform wall to wall free table dances for a bunch of customers who aren't spending money on dancers, the very least that the dancers could do is agree amongst yourselves that this is bullshit, and confront club management about either ending the 'free table dances requirement' or being prepared for a State Labor Board inquiry re receiving 'employee' pay from the club in exchange for unpaid 'employee' work requirements being set by the club. Establishing a mandatory unpaid work requirement (and enforcing that unpaid work requirement via the establishment of financial penalties if the unpaid work requirement isn't met) is clearly beyond the scope of a proprietor / independent contractor relationship and clearly into the territory of an employer / employee relationship ... a fact that any State Labor Board would have to support if a complaint were made.
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    Why are strippers so gutless? (And I don't mean in the toned out belly either.)

    If there are free dances they should at least eliminate or get rid of the stage fee/mandatory "tip" outs.

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    DW did an article in a newsletter about stupid managerial rules and the likes. I think this should be added to that list... at the top!!!

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    What melonie says is right. Girl, get thy ass OUT of that club. Clearly the management has no idea wtf they're doing. Although I personally would NOT be able to resist telling them that making us do dances for free, unless the club is paying us as regular employees, is totally illegal. I'd love to see them sweat that one. LOL

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    ^^^ exactly !!! The mere thought of having the Labor Board sniffing around, and the distinct possibility of the club having to start running an accurate payroll system and cutting hourly minimum wage checks to dancers, plus filing income tax withholding and reporting with the IRS on a weekly basis, plus the club having to pay the 'employers share' of SSI and medicare/medicaid taxes plus state workmen's comp and unemployment insurance premiums on behalf of all the dancers ... you're definitely talking about a couple of grand per week out of the clubowner's pocket for a 20 dancer club, even at a $2.95 an hour 'tipped' minimum wage !

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    You should tell them that you are leaving the club due to these policies, but that they shouldn't worry... you are going to double-check these policies w/ the labor board and might come back if it ends up that the club is doing sound business practices (you know since as dancers, there ain't shit goin' on in our pretty lil heads )

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    No way!!! I would not be giving free dances. My home club just bought back dollar dances. The stuff that these girls do for a buck is insane. I gave them quick boobie rub and a thank you, then walked off with their dollar. The exact same I would have done if it was a dollar onstage. Why the hell did a lot of the girls grind all over the guys for 30-45 seconds with their tits out was beyond me. For a buck. Sheesh! I would take Melonie's good advice and protest it.
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    What club is this so we can avoid it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick
    No way!!! I would not be giving free dances. My home club just bought back dollar dances. The stuff that these girls do for a buck is insane. I gave them quick boobie rub and a thank you, then walked off with their dollar. The exact same I would have done if it was a dollar onstage. Why the hell did a lot of the girls grind all over the guys for 30-45 seconds with their tits out was beyond me. For a buck. Sheesh! I would take Melonie's good advice and protest it.
    Girl, I dont' even do the dollar dances. I spend that hustle time "wanna dancing" and actually getting a real dance out the deal. I usually always get it too.







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