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    My wife and I enjoy going to strip clubs every now and then. We have shared many private dances, and in the past have always been charged the usual $20 per song, or the hour-long rate in the VIP. This past Friday in a club that we were new to, the dancer charged us double for each song, as there were 2 of us. She was up front with it and money is not a huge issue for me. Not wanting to put a damper on the evening, I went along with it and just had fewer songs. I don't begrudge the girls their money, but feel that double is excessive since she still puts in the same amount of time. Had we gone separately, she would have earned the same and spent twice the time. The wife has gone alone in the past, but we do enjoy going as a couple. Both my wife and I treat the dancers well and respectfully, and usually tip a little extra. This girl earned a good amount for not a lot of work or trouble. What are your thoughts on this? Am I being unfair with my assessment, or should I have haggled with her?

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    Default Re: Couple charge double for private dance

    well, some clubs charge double, some don't. It's not really up to her many times.

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    At my club we charge double as well. Next time, why don't you and your wife just get seperate dances?Yes, the dancer will have to take out more of her time to dance for each of you, but you as customers will feel as if you've gotten your moneys worth because of the individual attention u received during the dance.







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    Yeah, sometimes it's a club policy.

    Of course, although you see it as the dancer is performing the same amount of time, she is actually having to work harder to deal with two private dance customers rather than one. So, just like dinner for two costs more than dinner for one, couples dances can cost more. Do you expect to pay just one cover since you are a couple? Or get your drinks 2-for-1? It is the same amount of time but it's more work. Either we are juggling trying to dance for two people at once or we're trying to make sure both of you are comfortable, in several senses of the word.

    Look at it this way -- table dances are not appetizers. They cannot be split. They are also like a performance. You can't share a ticket.

    edit: however, if you are buying time in VIP at hundreds of dollars an hour I should expect just to be charged the hourly rate or maybe a slight bit more, but not double.

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    At one club, we charged %50, and the rest we charged double.

    It's not about how long it took a girl at all.

    Think about it... you go to the movies. Does only ONE person pay because you're a couple? But the movie ran the same length of time!

    She still entertained two people.


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    Well, seems kinda unfair to me, both ways. In my mind a floor LD is a one-on-one gig per song, I'd feel put out if asked to work on 2 ppl in one song, and and neither of you is getting the full attention paid for either. I'd say just get 2 girls or 2 songs and we're all happy right?

    But second Susan, VIP is another thing, frankly I think I'd feel more comfy doing VIP for a couple b/c they'd prolly be better behaved under the eye of their SO ;]

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    It depends on the club. Alot of clubs treat couples as one person, but not all.
    However it sometimes pays to ask if you're charged double. If you're willing to pay twice the price when the going rate is half, whats a dancer to do? (-:

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    One club I worked at would charge us per person, so the ladies would also charge per person. I don't mind that at all, as I prefer to have my dances be one-on-one.

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    Simple solution: Next time, either take turns or get a dancer for each of you.

    In any regard, your entertainer announced her terms of service up front and unfair or not you went along with it when you didn't have to. Better luck next time.
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    I only charge $20 for a couple, but I know most of the girls charge double. I don't do very many of them though, so maybe if I did I'd up the price.
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    I don't know, as a form of decorum, I just have a limit, I pay what the dancer asks within limit. Sometimes I've paid 40/song when the house was 25/song... but I liked her and enjoyed her company, however if I am charged an rate not worth it, I'll pay it, but wont get another dance.

    Everything is a risk, when she asks for more hoping you'll pay cause you had a good time, she risks future money, but if you pay and get more, she's happy.

    However if you take a risk and pay more than you feel a dance was worth, than that's your loss. You're only an idiot if you keep paying.
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    I think that the next time it happens, I'll make the following proposal. I'll have a dancer for "x" number of songs, and the wife will have another dancer for "x" number of songs, and you can each make "y" number of dollars. Unless you want to make all of the money yourself and take us both for 2x number of songs. She can either have half of the total money or all of it. It is her choice. We enjoy dances as a couple, but do not mind them seperately. I don't think that this is rude, and gives the dancer the choice.

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    Of course you are all writing from the dancers point of view (ok fair enough you are dancers) however lets look at it from the customers point of view. If we get a dance as a couple, each of us is receiving half of the dancers attention. Most of the places where lap dancing is done, where I am anyway, are built for a single customer, so when there are two it can be quite uncomfortable. Why should a customer pay the same amount for half the attention and a less comfortable seat? I understand that sometimes it’s the clubs policy, or that the club charges the dancer double, but that doesn’t make it right, it just means a different person is over charging. . As for the examples, the restaurant and drinks are obvious not analogous, of course you pay twice as much for two meals or two drinks, you are consuming twice as much. As for movies or theatre, I don’t get half the performance when we go as a couple so I shouldn’t get a break on the price. In my opinion more apt comparisons are: you don’t pay double to take a cab as a couple, the lawyer example mentioned above, you don’t pay double rent for an apartment as a couple, or twice the rate for a hotel room. Speaking of club policies, at least some of the clubs around here have a rule forbidding women from getting dances on their own, they can only go as a couple, so that means if my girlfriend wants a dance (and she DOES, gotta love her!) We are forced to pay $40 a song, just so she can get a little fun in an SC. I’m not saying you don’t have the right to charge whatever you want, of course you do, however bear in mind that if my girlfriend and I could get 6 dances for $120 we would probably do that but if we can only get 3 dances for that money we feel it simply isn’t worth it and will spend that money somewhere else. So maybe looking for any reason to charge extra is actually hurting your bottom line.

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    Couples were good to me. I never charged them each....

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    Here's a factor in my decision:
    Many couples get lapdances together to feel "comfortable" that their SO is behaving, AND it's a turn-on (kind of a threesome, eh?). I have found (in my particular club) that if a dancer will only do a private dance for one person at a time, they are denied and lose the sale. Our private dances are $20 a song, and we have one room for them, which is REALLY small. I always accomodate couples, and I'll charge them $30 a song instead of $40. I have regs who are couples b/c I cut them a deal. Just something else to think about.

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    Default Re: Couple charge double for private dance

    Emily makes a good point that if the club charges more there should be additional compensation for the dancer. Otherwise, I think its a time thing and if its one song the charge should be for one song.

    Ive never done dances with an SO. I have done "couples" dances where the other half of my couple was a dancer and I paid another stripper to dance for us. The quoted price was the standard per song rate.

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    Geez...the logic for charging a two-person audience more than a single person audience seems sound....if the charge was indeed by the dance, regardless of attendees, what would keep Bubba from bringing in the whole gang of five-or-so drinking buddies and having a girl do a dance for them en masse? Heck, four-buck nudie dances, yah-HOOO!
    The real question here, in my opinion, is that if the dancer performs a dance for an empty chair or couch, must the next customer to occupy that chair or couch make good on the debt thus established prior to his arrival?

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    This is common at Treasures rcw... it just varies from girl to girl and club to club. It also depends on the girls mood. It sucks but it happens. Thats how Toronto works since there is no set in stone prices unless you go somewhere like FYEO where they have set VIP prices per hour, as with the BR. Its just the same as some girls will give you 3 for $50 or whatever. I never charged extra for couples as I LOVE dancing for couples.. it gets me excited lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cally
    This is common at Treasures rcw... it just varies from girl to girl and club to club. It also depends on the girls mood. It sucks but it happens. Thats how Toronto works since there is no set in stone prices unless you go somewhere like FYEO where they have set VIP prices per hour, as with the BR. Its just the same as some girls will give you 3 for $50 or whatever. I never charged extra for couples as I LOVE dancing for couples.. it gets me excited lol.

    We'll have to look you up.

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    I wont be back in Toronto for a bit.. but i'll be at Divas the week of Nov 27 featuring. I'll post my schedule on terb

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    Not planning a trip back to TO until next year. Holidays and vacations coming up over the next couple months. When we decide to make the trip I'll check to see where you are working and maybe stop by.

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    Hmm no, sometimes I charge double unless the couple is super cool. It's the fact that you're dancing for two separate people, it normally more difficult, and there's a lot more expected.

    Guys come to club expecting the dancer to go down on their wife ect and they think it's fine because it's a chick and i'm not sucking dick or anything. Not the case. More times than not, I do not find the wife in the least bit attractive and the husdband is always wanting me to be a whore. This pisses me off instantly cause it's like "dude if you cant fucking get your wife off by yourself, it's going to cost me a hell of a lot more than this $10 i'm making on this song to do it for you" or "if you want to see your wife with a woman, find a woman outside of a club because that's basically calling all dancers hookers and it's also degrating to your wife. What makes you think your wife wants to be in here verses getting eaten out at home? you're married, make your wife dance for your ass at home, treat her like a woman you fuck" or "if she said she'd like this, she's lying so you wouldn't come in here alone, or she just wants to turn you on. Neither of which are worth the drama this situation will cause tomorrow" or "stop being so fucking selfish, would you go to a male club and let some guys rub on you so your wife could watch?"

    I think it's astounding how many guys are cool with bringing their wives to a club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaneldupare
    Hmm no, sometimes I charge double unless the couple is super cool. It's the fact that you're dancing for two separate people, it normally more difficult, and there's a lot more expected.

    Guys come to club expecting the dancer to go down on their wife ect and they think it's fine because it's a chick and i'm not sucking dick or anything. Not the case. More times than not, I do not find the wife in the least bit attractive and the husdband is always wanting me to be a whore. This pisses me off instantly cause it's like "dude if you cant fucking get your wife off by yourself, it's going to cost me a hell of a lot more than this $10 i'm making on this song to do it for you" or "if you want to see your wife with a woman, find a woman outside of a club because that's basically calling all dancers hookers and it's also degrating to your wife. What makes you think your wife wants to be in here verses getting eaten out at home? you're married, make your wife dance for your ass at home, treat her like a woman you fuck" or "if she said she'd like this, she's lying so you wouldn't come in here alone, or she just wants to turn you on. Neither of which are worth the drama this situation will cause tomorrow" or "stop being so fucking selfish, would you go to a male club and let some guys rub on you so your wife could watch?"

    I think it's astounding how many guys are cool with bringing their wives to a club.

    You are looking at this all wrong. Our sex life at home is great. Going to the club a few times a year is just a little added excitement. I do not force her; she is there on her own accord. In fact we have a rule that she is in charge while there and anything that happens is to stay well within her comfort zone. If she is uncomfortable with the dancers or crowd we leave. I remember 1 night when we visited 4 clubs before she found one she was comfortable with. She does not demand this control; it is I who have offered it to make her comfortable. I don't bring her there to get off seeing her with other women. I will admit that it is exciting, but not the reason for our trip. I do not want the dancer to go down on her, nor does she. Occasionally a dancer has taken her hands and let them explore a little. That is her limit and she would never do it without an invitation. We have had an offer to return to our hotel with us. That is not why we are there, so have politely declined. We both respect the dancers and realize that we are paying for entertainment not sex. If a dancer sits down with us for a while I always offer her a drink. I usually give an extra tip when the dancer gives us an enjoyable show, as I did this time even though I had already paid double.
    We have a great marriage and have a great time together. How many couples are secure enough to sit, allow and or watch their spouse with a dancer getting a lap dance? Most of the customers have to do this behind their wives backs. Mine encourages me to have a good time while we are there. We each know at the end of the night that we belong to each other and that the trip to the club is just playing with our fantasies. We have been married for over 20 years and still have not fallen into a rut or become bored with each other in the bedroom. It is our attitude towards sex and fun like these trips that has helped this.
    As for your comment would I go to a male strip club and let guys rub on me, NO. It is my wife who is little bi curious not I. The original reason for starting to go to the clubs was for her not me. I do not want a guy dancing for me, nor does she desire seeing this. I offered to take her to a club with male dancers and she declined. If you do not like dancing for couples then simply decline or don’t offer in the first place. We really do not want dances from a girl that is not comfortable with us. There are usually plenty of girls who are comfortable with us, and who also have had a good time talking with us.

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    There is absolutely NO REASON why you would pay double for a couples dance. IF the club charges a double housefee, then the dancer charging a double housefee is in order. But her opportunity cost of dancing for a couple vs single is otherwise ZILCH. The song is the song. Yes, it may be a bit more a struggle to try to keep the attention 50/50, so it wouldn't be a bad idea for the couple to tip accordingly for this. I refuse to pay double, but I usually add a small tip for the slight inconvenience.

    In the future, if she tells you the cost is double, offer her 50% more than a single dance. That would cover any house fees and give her a bit extra for the miniscule hassle of trying to juggle attention on two people.

    With regards to 5 guys sharing a dance, why would that be an issue? Its not 5 guys getting 5 full dances. they're each only getting 20% of a dance. Who cares what they each pay, you're not making $4 on a lapdance, you're making the same $20(as in the example given). Ofcorse, find me five guys that want to snuggle together and share one girl....

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    Okay - if other dancers don't charge double, and the cost is an issue then you are free to patronize the dancers doing it cheaper. Just the first issue.

    Second - while I don't charge double for couple, I do charge more for other kinds of groups. If there are, for example 2 or more guys (and this doesn't happen all the time in Toronto so...) who want to go as a group, I do charge more. Nothing to do with more work per minute, but that I'm getting fewer minutes than I would be if they got dances separately. And that is, I think, a perfectly legitimate view.
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