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    IM so feb up with guys that dont tip....i had the very worst night on sat....the dam place was full of guys that didnt tip & lots of couples & also not tipping shit!!!........every guy i came up on was basically the same (sh*t),, sorry baby im running a little low on cash maybe next time, but he was sure drinking those coronas,, and with the couples, the guy would tell me, my wife is going to buy a dance on the next round..im like what bull-sh*it is this geezzz.......ohhh listen to this guy, he was with his wife and he has the balls to ask me ( hey how much to do my wife & ill watch or if you want i can join in too)....i felt like slapping him silly,,,,,has crap like this happened to anybody here.....i dont want ws up on sat...i dont know if wasnt feeling the club or the freaks just came out to play.....

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    I hate nights like that.
    Every guy you go up to they're either, "I just had a dance/Come back later, I just got here/Next Time/etc, etc"
    It freaking sucks, but nights like that happen every once in awhile.

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    My Saturday was shit too!!!!! And it seems like a similar situation. I hate Saturdays, esp when its busy, but nobody seems to be spending any effing money!! And we had soooo many couples in on Sat, which only one of them actually bought a few dances.

    I'm really getting sick of these "not just yet" or "in a few minutes" or "I'm leaving in a minute"(which stayed for another 20 min) guys. IMO, people shouldn't come into a SC not expecting to spend some money. And the cheapos that expect you to go home and fuck them are just icing on the cake...uugghh
    With all the stupid things guys will say, stay cool.

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    I'm starting to not like saturday nights. Way too much women and broke/cheap guys than usual. One bitch even had the nerve to get on stage and start dancing while guys tipped her. By the time I noticed- the bouncer already came over and made her get off. But she was up there a few minutes when no one noticed.

    For a second I wished one of the mean bitchy dancers had to get on that stage next- she might've gotten slapped off. (It's happened before)

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    I'm really sick of guys not tipping where I'm at too. We get the same broke asses who are just there to "enjoy the show" too. They should show some appreciation for the "show" they are getting. Whats with the whole bring my gf/wife phase too??? I'll be so glad when that fad is over. We also get lame asses that sit at the rail and do nothing. Or they tip one girl out of the rotation. Do not sit at the rail if you aren't/can't give every girl. Thats one of my biggest pet peeves. That, and when you ask a guy for a dance and they say, "I'd rather take you to dinner." I. SERIOUSLY. HATE. THAT.
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    The worst is when they don't tip but they keep trying to trick girls into talking to them in hopes they'd get a dance! There should be a roped off area (far in the back) for all non-tippers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot4ablackchick
    I'm really sick of guys not tipping where I'm at too. We get the same broke asses who are just there to "enjoy the show" too. They should show some appreciation for the "show" they are getting. Whats with the whole bring my gf/wife phase too??? I'll be so glad when that fad is over. We also get lame asses that sit at the rail and do nothing. Or they tip one girl out of the rotation. Do not sit at the rail if you aren't/can't give every girl. Thats one of my biggest pet peeves. That, and when you ask a guy for a dance and they say, "I'd rather take you to dinner." I. SERIOUSLY. HATE. THAT.
    I'm with you on EVERY single point, HFABC. And everyone. I definitely think it's worse on Fridays and Saturdays in particular. You're always going to get some freeloaders, but it seems especially bad on those nights.

    My theory is that on Fri and Sat you get a herd of KIDS coming in just because they think it's cool to be in a strip club, period. They don't actually plan on doing anything that one traditionally DOES in a strip club, but they sure want to be able to tell their friends what a wild time they had and what badasses they were. ESPECIALLY the youngish girls who come in, get loaded and make jackasses of themselves.

    There are a few things that contribute to this in my club - the fact that it's a juice bar WITH a bar next door AND a BYOB policy within the club itself, so all the underaged ones can come into the club and fuck around, while the legal ones can get loaded next door OR bring their own as well. Plus people can come in and continue to drink with their own booze after last call at the bars, so a lot of people are willing to pay the cover just to keep drinking.

    So they all come in, waste space, act like you're a freak/pain in the ass if you approach & try to get anything started with them, puke on the floor (optional), OCCASIONALLY tip a collective dollar onstage (extremely optional) . . . and so on.

    The last few weekends I've worked, I've made a LOT more on the Sunday of the weekend than I did on the Friday or Saturday. Sometimes twice as much.
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    Saturday was like that at my club too. Getting tipped was damn near impossible. Yet every guy seemed to be at the rail watching. One guy at the rail while I was up on stage was like, "I'm just watching right now, but let me talk to you for a minute." I just said, "Look, I'm busy right now, let me know when you start tipping, and then I'll come over," and then I walked to the other side of the stage. I can't stand that.

    Luckily, my club doesn't allow women. Couples would drive me crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riley21
    I hate nights like that.
    Every guy you go up to they're either, "I just had a dance/Come back later, I just got here/Next Time/etc, etc"
    It freaking sucks, but nights like that happen every once in awhile.
    Try this....

    You: Hey there, would you like a dance?
    Guy: No thanks, I just got here, come back later
    You: Well since you just got here, allow me to give you a special(while winking at him) dance to really warm you up and put you in the mood. *But you gotta say it really seductive. They usually fall for it*
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    Thats why I avoid friday and saturday nights. I try to avoid large crowds of kids. Sorry youre night is shitty. Come back with avengence the next time you work. hehe
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    My night was Friday rather than Saturday, but I heard it all. From, "My friend has all my money" (apparently lost betting on golf, but the friend didn't spend a dime either, so it couldn't have been much) to "I feel like I know you too well to get a dance. Why don't you just hang out?" (Really? What's my name?) Also, "I don't get dances because I'm married" (Hello--I'm not going to pull your pud!) "No, but I'll pay for a game of pool if you want to play" ( ) "No, but here's my card. Call me" (sigh).

    I can't even remember them all.

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    Wow, crowds of cheap-ass kids is way more widespread than I thought.....

    Oh, and it doesn't help that our ATM has been out of order since Wednesday...
    With all the stupid things guys will say, stay cool.

    "Her apartment is littered with soggy G-strings and cheap 8-inch heeled shoes, along with empty tubes of body glitter, mascara, prescription drugs, zit cream, Aqua Net and Polaroid pictures of her and her "friends" engaged in some drinking and dancing on St. Patrick's Day last year. " My God....

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    Yeah, I hate nights like that too. But don't worry sweets, we all have them! There are nights where I just burn up the floor and bank, and there are other nights where it wouldn't seem like anyone's dog would even want a dance with me.... The type of crowds that come in fluctuate drastically on weekends-sometimes you're their type and sometimes you're not. I really have been a bit confused as to how this all works, "why is it everyone loved me on X day and I made X amount of money and then on some nights I have to hustle MUCH harder only to make less $$??!!" Meh, that's just the way it works, I guess...At my club, it is a fact of life that stage tips are generally pretty low, and that's okay with me-I mostly use it as an advertisement anyways and to see who is interested in me, which makes hustling much easier! I normally stay very busy after I do stage (unless it's one of the nights we just talked about!). I guess I'm glad too that we're in the county and not city, so there's some odd law that we can't dance for women (strange, huh?), so that keeps the number of couples and women that come into the club to a minimum. Even though I would think it would be more fun if they let us, from what I've read on here again and again it just doesn't seem like it's worth it...

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    Right here. I'm a hater too. What I want to know is when they feed us a line of crap and we walk away I feel like it just encourages them to come in and not tip. Since they got away with it last time they just come in and hassle us again and we leave them alone again. But they still get to see us naked. That's what burns me.

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    I usually bank on the weekends because it's so packed it's more of a "wanna dance" nights or many guys will come over to the stage and ask me to come dance for them, I come up, say hi and hop up on the table and start dancing. During the week it's slower and more talking with the business men.

    Ladies, what's helped me is "they're getting a dance regardless", you ladies have the power, so take it!!! Don't listen to the "let's wait til a good song or come back later shit", it's now!!! When I hear that I'll say "oh, it doesn't matter what song it is, I dance great with or without music" and then I start dancing or I'll say "I'm dancing for you right now" and I'll kinda do the "take charge" type of thing. Treat them like you're the boss because you are, not them!!! Treat them like the club is your home and they are guests and if the guest doesn't respect your home, then you're not a good hostess and they're getting kicked out or no attention paid to them. When I'm up at the stage, I'll do the sexy squat down, smile, look the guy in the eye all while sticking my garter out and I won't get up until he tips me. MAKE HIM FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE!!!!!! If you're looking him in the eye with your garter pulled out and he doesn't put a tip in there right away, just keep staring at him in the eye while smiling, he'll start to feel like an ass and will at minimum give you a dollar. If worse comes to worse, totally and completely ignore them, give them the look of "your dick is probably the smallest and worse ever in the world!!!"

    Take control, you can do it! I know when times get slow it's easier said than done but try these moves, it's helped me make more on stage and get more dances!

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    hmmm...i have a theory behind this...it's a new one.

    it's pretty accepted now that people, that is men, custies, what have you, have less money. our economy is in the toilet, and it ain't goin' no where.

    mmmkay, so if everybody has less money, why are the clubs packed with cheapos who sit, drink, and expect a cheap show?

    because they can.

    they have no conscience.

    they KNOW the only reason we talk to them is for $$$

    and they like not having to give it to us. we will try, try, try, no matter how many times we fail, which means they get hot chicks actually giving them the time of day EVERY time they come in.

    at any rate, those with a conscience stay home when they don't have enough, or they leave shortly after the wallet is empty. these are the same people that don't go out to eat unless they have enough money to tip, etc...

    but because nobody has money, these guys aren't showing up so much.

    only the heartless...the cruel....the cheap....

    am i making sense?

    we're packed with cheapos!



    with fewer clubs, owners would be able to afford to kick out the guys that aren't spending because a spender will also get CR/VIP.

    but right now owners are grovelling for drinks. they wan't those cheapie cheapie guys in there just as much as we want 'em out of there.

    durnit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk
    Thats why I avoid friday and saturday nights. I try to avoid large crowds of kids. Sorry youre night is shitty. Come back with avengence the next time you work. hehe
    Ditto. I haven't worked a night shift on weekends in a long time. I did work this last saturday, but I was at a truck stop bar and their business is consistant any day/time of the week. Truckers don't get weekends off, so you could have a great night easily any day of week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bellyflower
    hmmm...i have a theory behind this...it's a new one.

    it's pretty accepted now that people, that is men, custies, what have you, have less money. our economy is in the toilet, and it ain't goin' no where.
    Depends on where you are. There are a few places around the country that is doing crappy (as there always is pockets of poor economic prospects) but on the whole the USA is doing better than ever.

    So, unless you are in Detroit or other impacted city, the dancers should be doing fine based strictly economic stats.

    P.S. Phoenix is in the middle of and economic boom. Seems like the southwest is doing very well, here in Oregon our housing boom is just getting started, the dow is at record highs and unemployment is at record lows. Now with Wal Mart cutting prices drastically on all items, not just perscription drugs, this will put even more money in the pockets of Joe Average over the Holiday season. Add to that the dropping fuel costs and a glut in the natural gas market combined with a predicted warm winter, we all should be in the $$!!

    If you live somewhere like Michigan, you might have a harder time earning money. Definately a depressed state.


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    I can empathize, it is annoying when the f*ckers don't tip but it is even more annoying when they come in with their chicks and neither tip. Before I was a dancer I used to visit stripclubs with my guy and if we were at the stage, I'd always shell out some extra buck for the girls. I figured that it would help the dancers feel more comfortable with me as a customer, since it is a GENTLEMEN'S club. Granted, both sexes are welcome but still..it's a fricken strip club and it's obvious that the girls make money off of their TIPS, not chicks coming in and treating the place like a nightclub with a free show.
    Not tipping to me is unexcusable and was my #1 pet peeve as a stripper. It's not your living room, if you're broke, LEAVE. Or at the very least, DON'T sit at the stage. This was discussed in another thread but at my old club, if was a dead night and there were a few dudes or couples (typically young ones) sitting at stage not tipping, we'd remain fully clothed. That way they got the hint and started parting with a little cash, or they did not get a free show. Putting on a free show, personally, was the only thing about dancing that made me feel degraded.
    Anyhow, I feel for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    Depends on where you are. There are a few places around the country that is doing crappy (as there always is pockets of poor economic prospects) but on the whole the USA is doing better than ever.

    So, unless you are in Detroit or other impacted city, the dancers should be doing fine based strictly economic stats.
    WRONG!!! The companies make money yet do not raise employee salaries. The checks buy less and less. Unemployment stats do not count those who CANNOT receive benefits anymore but still have not replaced their old positions. Our economy is GARBAGE if you make middle class money.

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    I have to totally agree with Paris that the economy is doing very well, except for Detroit (my parents are trying hard to sell their home and having a hard time-nobody wants to live there), but anyway, I don't think these cheap non-tippers has anything to do with the economy, I think they're doing it because they've been allowed to, like they've been "conditioned" to. I think not removing any clothing is a good hint for customers. At my club, our rule is $5 for the top and $10 for the bottom. When guys at the tip rail yell out, take it off, I'll smile, pull my garter out and say "I'd love to, you gotta help me" and if they don't then I'll say to them flat out "Nothings free, if you want to see me naked, you have to pay for it" and then when they give me a whole $1 they think I should get naked for a $1, so I just keep holding the garter out, going to each guy until I have at the least the minimum to get naked. I think that's a good club policy to have because if they know you're going to get naked either way, what's the incentive to tip? Nothing because it has no value to it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella21
    The worst is when they don't tip but they keep trying to trick girls into talking to them in hopes they'd get a dance! There should be a roped off area (far in the back) for all non-tippers.
    Haha, I aggggreeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!! A designated cheapskate area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist
    WRONG!!! The companies make money yet do not raise employee salaries. The checks buy less and less. Unemployment stats do not count those who CANNOT receive benefits anymore but still have not replaced their old positions. Our economy is GARBAGE if you make middle class money.
    You nailed that one right on.

    Does not anyone realize CEOs are making nearly 400x's the average worker's salary?

    Imagine what the other C-Level people are making? And yet they complain about salary/wages being the greatest expense.

    True there is a group of people in this economy making a lot of money - but it is NOT your common strip club visitor.

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    Lately, I've noticed the same things...The weekends are weaker for me than the week days...But my clientelle is older men who are more established, I have difficulty hustling the kids that come in. Their lack of money can be blamed on their youth, but not tipping at least a dollar for seeing naked girls that they would never be able to see naked otherwise? TERRIBLE! This past weekend was the worst ever for me, I usually bank whenever I work, but last saturday I only made $143.00!!!

    The kids that came in were rude, and of course there were couples and bitchy girls that came in. There were female customers lap dancing for their friends/boyfriends and they would chase away all the dancers with snide comments and rude gestures. One frat guy told me to come back when I had tits and a someone else told me to go away. I snapped, but it didn't make my night any more profitable. I usually ignore rude people, but there were sooo many assholes it ruined my night.

    I just don't understand how some people could not possibly catch on to "strip club ettiquette"...as I like to call it. Especially the girls that come in, I haven't met a nice one yet unless she was a lesbian or had her husband with her...

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    Thanks, D. I hope I wasn't too rude but it's hardcore out here right now. If I hadn't done the DW course and tightened my game--I'd be a broke-ass right now. I'm all game, all the time, now.

    There is no demographic we can take for granted because they're ALL looking for reasons not to spend. Young and old, comfortable and poor, single and married sittin' their theivin' butts in the seats lookin' and grinnin' and crying POOR when you go for your tip.

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