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    HI
    I am newbie to a place, and when I approached a dancer to do a dance in the VIP (I was working with a group and I needed another dancer), she told me that she does a 3 song minimum.
    Obviously, that will give her more money...Should I be doing this? I'd think I'd loose dances that way....

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    Default Re: 3 song minimum?? Help w/this strategy

    She should be thankful you invited her in the first place. What is the price in VIP?
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    Default Re: 3 song minimum?? Help w/this strategy

    Its totally up to you, if your club permits this, which I guess it obviously does.

    If you have to ask though, then you probably shouldn't cuz you don't feel confident in doing so.
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    Default Re: 3 song minimum?? Help w/this strategy

    yeah, some additional information is useful. In our club, the VIP is a 3 song minimum. What's the difference between a lap dance and a VIP dance?

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    Default Re: 3 song minimum?? Help w/this strategy

    Hi;
    Normally it's $30 per song (house gets $10) in VIP (topless but contact varies)
    We also sell these crazy promos once an hour: a promo gift to the custy and two VIP songs for $40 (but house gets $20).
    UPSTAIRS VIP (all nude/no contact) is $40 per song (House gets $10). OR 30 minutes for $300 (house gets 100) or one hour (double the previous).
    I think she should have been thankful too. It was a busy night with many many dancers working.

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    Default Re: 3 song minimum?? Help w/this strategy

    Oh, the VIP room is a private area with couches and quite nice compared to other places I've been. I can actually move around.
    The other options are "table dances" which are $15 per dance. Topless but NO contact what-so-ever.

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    Well, is she a high earner? Does this method work for her? I can see how this would work if the customer really wants to touch, she's going to make them pay more than $30

    It kind of makes sense.

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    I must admit that I am guilty of employing a similiar tactic whenever I work as I know for damn sure I am worth it. I would much rather hold out for the quality customers (as the majority of the time they will have me again later in the night or at least have me for a decent chunk of time initially) than accept one-song dances.

    I start up high and pitch my $80 dance (one song topless, three songs nude = 4 songs = just over 10 minutes) then go down from there to my $70 dance (two songs topless, two songs nude) then $50 (one song topless, two songs nude). I refuse to go any lower. If they cannot afford the $50 dance, I encourage them to come tip me when I am next on stage.

    It does work IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE WORTH IT.


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    If you simply tell the guys there's a 3song minimum, they'll generally go for it if they were gonna buy at all.

    My club has a 3song minimum in vip. Just pretend that this is the RULE at your club, and you'll start finding it pretty easy to sell, if you're gonna sell a vip at all

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    I just take the one dance offer and go with it. I can't see turning down money on the gamble that I can possible make more with someone else. Hell, in the time it takes to find a customer that is willing to spend on 3 dances or more at a time, I could've had 3 dances from 3 different guys. Plus many men only want one dance at first and it may turn into 3 or 5 or 10 once I put my magic on them.
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    If you know how to sell, you won't have to worry about "finding" a guy to go for 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious
    I just take the one dance offer and go with it. I can't see turning down money on the gamble that I can possible make more with someone else. Hell, in the time it takes to find a customer that is willing to spend on 3 dances or more at a time, I could've had 3 dances from 3 different guys. Plus many men only want one dance at first and it may turn into 3 or 5 or 10 once I put my magic on them.
    Miss Luscious-I agree with you 100%! I'm not going to potentially kill a sale by coming off as greedy right off the bat-talk about a bad first impression and fantasy breaker. I just let things flow naturally, and 9 times out of ten that 1 dance turns into more (once I work my magic, like you!!). You have to play up the fantasy and make it seem as if money isn't important. Guys don't go into SC's to feel like walking ATM's, and we have to be accommodating of that to make good money. Not only that, I do not turn down money, ever-unless, of course, the guy is being disrespectful or rude. And like someone said in an earlier post, you CAN pull it off if you feel like you're worth it, so if you want to try it, by all means, go for it. That tactic just doesn't fit with my personality and how I want to come off to guys, but that doesn't mean that it can't/won't work for you.

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    a couple of the girls at my club do the 3-song min thing too...

    personally, i take a bit of a different approach. our club is 20/song, so for privates i say "3 songs for $50 [alltough everyone generally cuts it off at 2.5 anyway)] 2 songs is $40 but you can go for as long or a little as you'd like me for: for instance $80, $90, $40... its up to u huney..."

    basically i dont mention the $20 option- sometimes they ask and if they do i say "well $20 is the minimum, just ONE song, like a table dance... so its really REALLY basic- why don't you put in another $10/$20(ie=$40 dance) and we you'll get a much better private show???"

    i find when i phrase it like this it comes across as completely resonable that the $50 is just the best deal and they should take that.. oh and i always mention when they give me the money "thankyou... we can always go for another song or two, if your having too much fun at the end..."

    dunno, maybe i'm just gutless-but i've found that putting it in this way and making the cheap option see really unnatractive (or ignoring completely) really works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    If you know how to sell, you won't have to worry about "finding" a guy to go for 3
    I couldn't have said it any better myself!

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    When I go to a strip club as a patron, I know exactly how much I want to spend. No amount of selling to me could get me to go for 3 dances if I only want one. The sales tactics don't work if the customer doesn't want what you are selling. And it would be a total turnoff if a girl told me she only did three at a time. What the hell kind of diva does she think she is? My measly $20 (or $30 or $10 or whatever) isn't enough for Her Highness? It won't help her get closer to her goal for the night? Ok then, I'm moving on to a dancer who doesn't force me to spend my money the way she wants me to.

    But what if I do pay for 3 dances at a time? What if I don't like the way she dances? What if she smells bad? Can I get my money back for any dances I decline after the first? That's probably how male customers think as well and so I don't want to alienate anyone (or their money) because I'm trying to sell in bulk.

    And what if he only has the money for one dance? Are you going to give up that money just because he can't buy 3?

    I call my first dance the test drive. I usually don't have a problem getting more than one dance once they get the first one because my product speaks for itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious
    When I go to a strip club as a patron, I know exactly how much I want to spend. No amount of selling to me could get me to go for 3 dances if I only want one. The sales tactics don't work if the customer doesn't want what you are selling. And it would be a total turnoff if a girl told me she only did three at a time. What the hell kind of diva does she think she is? My measly $20 (or $30 or $10 or whatever) isn't enough for Her Highness? It won't help her get closer to her goal for the night? Ok then, I'm moving on to a dancer who doesn't force me to spend my money the way she wants me to.

    But what if I do pay for 3 dances at a time? What if I don't like the way she dances? What if she smells bad? Can I get my money back for any dances I decline after the first? That's probably how male customers think as well and so I don't want to alienate anyone (or their money) because I'm trying to sell in bulk.

    And what if he only has the money for one dance? Are you going to give up that money just because he can't buy 3?

    I call my first dance the test drive. I usually don't have a problem getting more than one dance once they get the first one because my product speaks for itself.

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    I take any and all money I can get. I even had a guys say he only had $1.25 in quarters. I pulled my garter and told him to slap it in there because money is money to me. His 3 friends ended up giving me 1 $5 bill each because they said I was about my money. Fo' Sho'!
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    It sounds crazy to me how some of the girls at my club get offended if a guy only wants a 1-song dance. I've even seen girls get up and walk out and leave the customer sitting in the VIP room. It's beyond rude and I wish that more customers knew how much of a primadonna some of these dancers are. My best days have been 1-song specials. It does get tiring to do so many. Bulk dances are the best way to go, I'm not hustling as hard, but somedays it's just not possible. Beggars can't be choosers!

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    Hmmm, ever customer is different. If you think you can get three dances out of him, go for it. If he bites, tell him he if he gets one more, the fifth one will be free or discounted. That works for me. If he seems turned off by the demand, say "well...(look around) I'm not really supposed to, but since you've been such a gentleman and you're kind of cute, I'll do it per dance just this once. And if you like it, maybe you can take me to the private room (assuming your club's private room dances will make you more money)" Also, watch this chick that does the 3 song minimum and see how she sells it. You have to wonder, how can she sell 3 in a row and you can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious
    When I go to a strip club as a patron, I know exactly how much I want to spend. No amount of selling to me could get me to go for 3 dances if I only want one. The sales tactics don't work if the customer doesn't want what you are selling. And it would be a total turnoff if a girl told me she only did three at a time. What the hell kind of diva does she think she is? My measly $20 (or $30 or $10 or whatever) isn't enough for Her Highness? It won't help her get closer to her goal for the night? Ok then, I'm moving on to a dancer who doesn't force me to spend my money the way she wants me to.

    But what if I do pay for 3 dances at a time? What if I don't like the way she dances? What if she smells bad? Can I get my money back for any dances I decline after the first? That's probably how male customers think as well and so I don't want to alienate anyone (or their money) because I'm trying to sell in bulk.

    And what if he only has the money for one dance? Are you going to give up that money just because he can't buy 3?

    I call my first dance the test drive. I usually don't have a problem getting more than one dance once they get the first one because my product speaks for itself.
    I hope you ladies are getting this. THIS IS A CUSTOMER SPEAKING!!!!!!! Not only that, but you can't just assume that all the customers can afford to spend that much nomatter how good of a sales women you are. Knowing how to sell is great, but remember you can't sell someone if they don't have the money. Sometimes you just have to go with the flow. One dance is one dance. You may not be able to get many guys to go with that kind of hustle all the time. You may actually LOSE out on money doing this. I say this because alot of guys already know how everything works, unless they've never been there before. And regulars do not go for this tactic. Hustlers are known as hustlers and nothing else. The big spenders do not like to feel like they are being hustled. Remember that. Hmmm, Do I want $60-100 or do I want $500/hr off one guy plus tips and maybe a couple more hours. I guess it all depends on how good you think your hustle really is. Not only are your sales determining your profit for the day/evening, but remember first impressions are always remembered. This is not a good way to build regulars either. If you work in a tourist based club, this may work well, but if you turn down guys on a slow night, and then try to go back, they'll be like, "oh now you want my money,huh?"

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