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    Please forgive my obsession.

    For the life of me, I can't get my waist smaller than 26 inches. I have a feeling I would have to starve and it still wouldn't get much lower...Not to less than 24 inches. And I don't think I can make my hips any bigger. I think that's a bone thing. My hips are 34 inches, and according to this article, I will never be optimally attractive:

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    Waist-hip ratio is likely one of them. It's no secret that men snap to attention and even go dry at the mouth at the sight of a shapely woman. Science has now calculated just how curvy a woman has to be to garner such appreciation: the waist must measure no more than 60 to 70% of her hip circumference. It is a visual signal that not only figures powerfully in attraction but is a moving force in flirtation. And unless steel-boned corsets stage a comeback, it is an attribute that just can't be put into play unless it is real.

    In simplest terms, says Gangestad, waist-hip ratio is an honest indicator of health. Studies have shown that hourglass-shaped women are less likely than other women to get diabetes and cardiac disease. They are also most likely to bear children, as hips take their shape at puberty from the feminizing hormone estrogen.

    "The literature shows that women with a 0.7 waist-hip ratio have a sex-typical hormone profile in the relationship of estrogen to testosterone, and that women with a straighter torso, meaning a waist-hip ratio closer to 1:1, indeed have lower fertility," Gangestad reports. "It appears that males have evolved to pay attention to this cue that ancestrally was related to fertility.


    ...so my hips are small and my waist straight because I didn't have enough estrogen as a teenager? Or something? It's spooky because I really am infertile. I don't get my period more than three times a year unless I'm on hormones. That's no baby making machine. So, ugly? It's so depressing. Damn biology. Bad enough to be on the bench for the whole of the baby making thing, but to be less attractive too? Come on (or it's consistently unfair, I guess).

    But whatever, I still get hit on sometimes. I'd say at least average for my age. Maybe I am deceptive. Even at work, I don't think I'm less than average in terms of looks. It could be the polishing.

    Anyway, less of a pity party this time, more of a curiosity? Do women with straight waists and small hips really have more trouble in the reproductive health department because of hormones? I read somewhere that Keira Knightley has a 27inch waist, and she's narrow in the hips, and still hot? Right?! I'm starting to get a complex over this.

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    Well...damn if I didn't get pregnant without freakin' trying! Then again I was using that stupid rhythm method! Maybe my booty makes up for the boy hips. Men marvel at how I can be so tiny and big at the same time. Family trait.

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    Well Molly, you're about my height, right? My waist is 25", and I don't think it could get smaller. The whole 24" waist ideal is for shorter, smaller girls! it doesn't apply in the same way to someone who's 5'8" as to someone who's average female height (5'5"?).

    You're friggin gorgeous, don't you know that? Like seriously, what the hell? Why is it always the most attractive who are the most insecure? It's nutso.

    And anyways, why are you focusing on your waist to hip ratio when you have the most amazing boobs ever? Really? It's much easier for you to fake a smaller waist than for anyone else to fake perfect natural D cups! Try corset training, if you care THAT much.

    And you're a philosophy major! Don't you have more important things to think about??? Dammit, I'm gonna come out there and smack you

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    I didn't want to say anything, but... geez. You're hideous. With a 26" waist. Disgusting. Horrifying even. With your non-childbearing waistline. Maybe you could look at some surgery or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver
    And you're a philosophy major! Don't you have more important things to think about??? Dammit, I'm gonna come out there and smack you
    Well, lol, to be honest it was this ethics seminar I'm taking that got me thinking this way...we're talking about genetic engineering and stuff. The article goes on about a lot of things, but in class it was all: "should we try to encourage an emerging population of perfect people? Discuss". A whole 'nother can of worms, but it doesn't take much for me to think "perfect...hmm..."

    Ehh. I'm actually more secure about myself when I don't read this stuff, and I don't compare myself to other people. I was more secure before I had to work in a bikini...or maybe I only remember it that way. I remember thinking I was a decent looking girl back in the day, but now whenever I see people from high school they insist I look so different.

    But yeah, whatever, essays, onward, etc etc...must take the laptop safely away from the procrastinating pull of WiFi

    I'll guess I'll figure out for myself whether I can get pregnant or not whenever that time comes around, if it does...have been knocked up thus far!

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    pffffffffft whatever... my waist is a 26. i'm a 35 26 38 (bubble but on a skinny girl). i'm 5ft6 120 lbs. my waist is pretty fucking tiny. i think smaller than 26 is pushing it. all that 36 24 36 talk is bullshit. a 24 inch waist is unatural for an average to tall girl.

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    Well, I'm at 5'5 1/2 and I've got a 24 inch waist and a 35 inch hip/ butt.......... however, I am a 32 on top : ( my hips really arn't that wide... it's the bubble ass that takes up most o fthe measuring tape. I've done my ratio and I'm not sure if i did it right, I did the 24 divided by 35 and got .6857..... I did my mothers the same way, and she is .75 what measurments would you have to have to get a .7... and please someone check my math, did I do it right?
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    I don't know what I am in inches, but I'm 85.5cm-60cm-85cm. I think 60cm is like 25 inches? (haha this can balloon out to 70cm after a meal though, ahahah) And I'm 5"1, and it's really hard for me to get my waist smaller without drastically cutting out foods and cutting down foods. I don't think you should be worried that you can't get yours any smaller. I'm "petite" and I have issues getting it down. The only time it's been <24 was when I was going through the worst of ED.

    There's a girl at my club that I swear to god, has a bigger waist than her hips. It looks reallllly bizarre when you look at her torso, she also looks like she has a shortened torso - and she's one of our biggest money makers. So attraction wise, I don't think it's so much your hip-waist ratio as it is your overall features and personality. And fertility wise, anyone can have problems with that. I'm close to the proper ratio I think, and thanks to the joy of endometriosis, I'm not the most fertile person ever.
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    Your waist shouldn't be 24in unless your around 5ft or under. It just wouldn't look right on someone medium to tall. I know because I'm 4'11" and my good friend who was 5'11" damn near put herself in the hospital trying to be as thin as me, when she already looked way smaller than I did.

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    I don't know that the waist to hip ratio affecting fertility is always true. In south texas, there is a very large mexican-american population. Many of these girls have what I call the "mexican morphology". (This ain't refering to the hot chics on the spanish channel.) Its a big waist that does not curve in at all, flat ass, and narrow hips. This body type is often accompanied with odd portioning of body fat, as in body fat stays on the middrift and back while the legs remain skinny. If you look at teen pregnancy rates in south texas, its obvious that these girls are still quite fertile. However, if you look at the rates of diabetes, heart disease and obesity, then yes, this study is true! In the case of the "mexican morphology" I think it's a genetic body type, not neccessarily affecting fertility.

    I think perhaps in the straight waists of say, a gymnast, the theory rings true. In that case the low body fat throughout the puberty years very likely could have affected future fertility and body shape.

    *I don't mean anything racist, as I am mexican myself. I'm only discussing body types and shapes.

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    I don't know whether it is true or not, I am sure it is true when it comes to more extremes with a lot of fat around the middle because of what that indicates healthwise. However, I'm very short waisted and don't have the optimal ratio as even when I was in great shape what little fat I had was stored around the middle and both times I got pregnant with one try. As in, one ejaculation inside me.. and for the 2nd pregnancy I was still nursing like every 2 hours all day and all night.

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    That is deffinaetly true about Texas and " mexican morphology." When I went to cabo this summer, I saw that too at all of the sc's I visited there. The weird thing about there though was so many o fthe people had the dark skin and dark thick hair but some o fthe lightest greenish grayish eyes I have ever seen. Their eyes were really pretty.
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    I'll probably be jumped for this, but mexicans seem to be less wealthy, and therefore eat more whole foods (as opposed to junk). I've always believed that has a great deal to do w/ fertility. My measurements are: 34-24-34, and I'm small! 5'2'' (gimmie a 1/2 inch!) and 105. It's really pretty unrealistic for you to be that tall and so narrow. unnatural really. I can't ever be a 36'' hip w/ out looking big, just as you probably cant be 24 healthily.

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