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    Rude and inconsiderate dancers are starting to hit my last nerve. Goddamn it, when I am sitting with a customer, or sitting with a guy a dancer KNOWS is my regular, stay the fuck away from the table.

    I only work with 5-6 girls a night. In one club I book one week a month, my regular comes to the club ONLY to see me. Dancer X has worked with me on several other bookings and KNOWS my regular customer comes in the club about 2 times a week to see ME ONLY. So this bitch has the nerve to wait until I go on stage to approach him. She plops her ass down beside him, starts rubbing on his leg, and tells him, "I'll booked in X city the week after next, come see me".

    Of course my regular will tell me this. He sends me money, knows my real name, and talks to me virtually every day, besides buying dances from me in the club and tipping the bartender/manager well.

    He also asked me why none of the other 4 girls will go over and talk to 2 guys in the club at another table.The club was slow and they were njust sitting around. I told him some of these stupid bitches try to hit up guys they see spending money, and he told me " I am here to spend my money on you, they need to focus on guys who are fresh and haven't spent on anyone".

    That is plain rude. I had to get on a dancer last week who came up to my table at another club while sitting with a customer and having the nerve to ask him for a dance. He said no, and then she asked him for a tip. When I chewed her out, she told me he had asked her for a dance earlier. The customer told me that was a lie.This girl was supposed to be a friend. There were other guys in the club she could have approached. What the fuck is up with that?

    I NEVER use cutthroat methods to make money. It is WRONG. Didn't their mothers teach them manners and etiquette when they were young?

    Then, I was busy with my regular, and a guy I knew came in the club. I told another dancer that he likes black girls and he is worth several dances, go talk to him. She never made it to his table, just sat on her ass. This same girl when I was selling costumes the day before, bought one from me, but wanted two. She said she wanted to see how her money went. 2 dances from the guy I sent her to would have paid for the costume. What the hell is wrong with these girls who are afraid to approach the cutomers ESPECIALLY if you lead them to money? if they are not there to make money they should QUIT!

    My regular said the manager should get on these girls and make them talk to the customers. Customers are very observant. The very guys who don't get approached are the ones who will spend money. I know cause I get a lot of money from these guys.

    There are no extras in these clubs so there is no reason for these girls to be so cutthroat and lazy. If I ever run a club and the girls pull these shenanigans. they will be told how to work the floor first, and if they still are cutthroat and lazy, they will be FIRED! The girls who hustle like Bridgette (I've seen you work em hard girl) would be left alone. If they don't hustle like her and don't have proper manners, they're gone.

    A lot of dancers need to just get out of this business if they can't work properly. That is why I am such an advocate of EVERYONE taking the Dancer Wealth seminar.

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    I personally do not think the DW seminar is all that necessary, but I do see your reasoning for your rant. These girls are being rude to you and it just isnt' fair. I had that happen to me before, when I first started dancing *maybe 3 months in* I was sitting with a customer and a "redlight" came on meaning we had to ask the guy for a dance. So as I'm working my way into the close this bitch walks over and says, "you're ready for our dance" and she pulls him up. She looks down at me, while my freaking mouth is on the floor and says, "sorry but he told me to come and get him on the next redlight" I was pissed!

    The best thing I think you should do is just continue to ignore those girls. Maybe they want to get under your skin. What does managemetn have to say about how lazy these girls are in your club?







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    I don't think approaching your regular when you are onstage is rude. That is perfectly appropriate and acceptable behaviour in any club I've worked in. Approaching a table while you are sitting there is completely unacceptable under any circumstances.
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    It happens whenever there's more girls than money. At least they aren't lighting eachothers clothes on fire. ;-)

    I think the only thing to do is have a sense of humor about it..



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    are they the young new girls?

    ive found they are the ones lacking in any manners compleatly, they have no ettiqute and think they know everything about the industry! (generally, again sw newbies are nothing like that!!!)

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    Yep. They just don't understand the "stripper code" Recently I've had girls trying to hustle at my stage. That's not cool at my club. I let them know that I don't care from them at my stage. I'll stop dancing and give them the evil eye. Then they tuck their tale between their legs and scurry off.

    I don't understand why you're worried about it. He's going to spend his money on you if he's there to see you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancinslifoxxx17
    I don't understand why you're worried about it. He's going to spend his money on you if he's there to see you.
    It's not that she's worried, it's just that there's some things you don't do. It's effin rude and I hate cut throat girls more than anything, I hate that more than cattiness!!!! I've had girls actually step right in front of me and start dancing for a customer that I was just about to dance for. When I first started dancing I was too afraid to speak up in fear of causing more problems but now, I will not allow any girl in the club to do that to me and surprising enough when you say something to them, in a firm manner they're so shocked that you said something that they back off. Probably because they're used to doing it and not used to having someone say something.

    I do have to agree if someone is sitting alone, he's fair game, the regular is the one who should say "I'm actually here to see so in so ONLY" and then she should move on, it's when you're at a table with a customer and a dancer goes to hustle the customer that you're sitting with. That pisses me off and that's not to be tolerated!!!

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    It happend to us yesterday at the pub, first of all we are not allowed to hustle we have to wait till cust comes to us for a dance or we can go to a cust and talk to him with 1 drink and just politly ask if he would like a dance, but we are NOT allowed to go around the pub and ask 'wanne dance', wel me and my friend where sitting with 2 guys and having a drink and waiting for a good time to pop the question, then this new girl came to where we where sitting and just went on the lap of 1 of the guys grind a liltle bit and sayd : come we go for a dance now and really took him by his shirt and yes he took a dance from her so that method works but it is not allowed, we did not want to say anything to the manager, but it is not fair because me and my friend usully are the 'ones' who get dances very quikly and thats why the manager always tells us : you girls can NOT hustle we are watching you 2 !!! we watch every move you girls try to make......and this is just not fair if we would go around do the same method as this girl we would double our earnings but we would be fired in 1 sec, if the manager wasnt so bizzy watching our every move he could see that this new bitch is just pushing the custs to buy dances and thats the kind of reputation the pub don't want to have....
    1 thing is that she is braking the rules without getting cought thats her biz, but the second thing is that she is just being rude to all the girls who are trying to hustle in a other way by talking to them for at least 1 drink and she just gets in between grinds a bit and in fact steel this guy while we are doing all the talking and waisting our time if she comes along.....
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    Are you joking? Are you his wife? Where is the contract saying that dancers aren't allowed to talk to him, or approach a table. Sure it may be annoying but they have every right to approach anybody and everybody they want. What country made you the dictator of your strip club? If you were so confident that he will always refuse them, you wouldn't be getting so pissed. Instead you turn it into a mine, mine, MINE, MINE issue. I hope you don't bitch at him about this selfish rant. If so, of course he is going to tell you what you want to hear, considering that you are acting like his wife.
    Stripping is a "Queen of the hill" business, there will always be someone waiting to bump you off. Get use to it. When that guy comes in the club, no matter how long he is still a customer of the club. You have no authority over him and his wallet. He does. The only person who is rude is you.

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    Some regulars are scared to get dances from other girls because of "psycho wife" attitude like this.

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    I hope you don't bitch at him about this selfish rant.


    He also asked me why none of the other 4 girls will go over and talk to 2 guys in the club at another table.The club was slow and they were njust sitting around. I told him some of these stupid bitches try to hit up guys they see spending money, and he told me " I am here to spend my money on you, they need to focus on guys who are fresh and haven't spent on anyone".
    Nevermind

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    I can understand the dancernot wanting to go over to the guy you recommend. Everytime another dancer has told me that Mr. X over there will spend money, it has been the complete oposite. Or that he is a grabby extras customer or something.


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    Sassfire that is the issue I am talking about. You NEVER go to a customer in a small club that you KNOW is there to see a certain girl EVERY time he comes in, and when her back is turned tell him to come see you. What kind of shit is that? Do you want someone to do that to you? That is Vegas club cutthroat hustling bullshit and that is why guys don't like coming in the clubs anymore. That is why girls have fights in clubs. IF A GUY IS THERE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE AND ONLY HER AND YOU KNOW IT, YOU LEAVE THAT CUSTOMER ALONE!!!!! She was trying to steal my customer, and that is why sometimes he is not comfortable coming in the club. If he is there by himself, fine, but when another girl's drink is at the table and she just walked away to go on stage, that is called backstabbing.

    I am one of the top selling girls in this club, and NEVER do I make ANY of my money doing shit like that.

    There are plenty of fucking customers that have no one sitting with them that these girls should be talking to and they don't. I understand that money is funny in this business nowadays, but trying to knock another girl down to get it only makes matters worse. A lot of guys who none of these shitty floor workers approach have money, and these guys complain all the time that no one will come to their table.

    Paris, for girls who are good floor workers rule #1 is NEVER avoid customers. If you tell a girl a guy will spend money, she should get her ass over there pronto. If he is a problem, so what, move on, if not, she made easy money. This was a rookie dancer, and for some reason must be uncomfortable with talking to guys. You know the kind of clubs I work in. We're not talking Houston here. Dances are only one way contact, no touching.

    And CK, that is why I say every dancer should take the DW class. These girls don't know what to say to guys, talk about their personal lives, bad mouth other girls to customers, don't know how to dress, how to wear their makeup or do their nails, and do all kinds of shit that turns the customers off and makes them not want to come to the clubs as much. Some training would really cut a lot of these problems down.

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    You are not his wife. You are a stripper and he is a customer. No matter how many time s he buys a dance from you, that fact will remain the same. You haven't made a sale yet, you are still talking. The only place that a stripper shouldn't ask for a dance is while you are giving a dance. The rest is fair game. Seems like you can't handle competition. Now go ahead and close this thread.

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    I beg to differ with you Sassfire, He HAS bought HUNDREDS of dances from me and given me thousands of dollars. He calls me everyday and I know what time he will be in the club. The sale is made before he gets to the club. He TELLS me what he will spend. The owners know him and other employess and know he comes to see me. He NEVER buys dances from anyone else. So there.

    In a small club EVERYONE knows who comes to see who.

    I am used to competition. I have worked in every type of club. Smaller clubs are not the same stab a bitch in the back environment as in Vegas where you may never work with the same girl again, and where regulars typically only come in during the morning hours.

    In a small club the girls need to get along. We all have to work together for 6 nights straight.

    We all know who comes to see such and such and most girls respect those boundaries.

    A dancer should NEVER come to a table when a dancer is sitting witrh a customer, or go to a table when she has gotten up from customer to go on stage with a full drink left behind. Period. Once she has finished dancing for him and walked away (if the guy is still in the club). then yes she can then approach him, but not before.

    You work in Vegas (and I have worked there too) where girls are cutthroat and desperate because there are soooo many more dancers than customers.

    This girl KNEW he was my regular, knew he is wealthy and spends money only on me, and wanted to try to steal him away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    Sassfire that is the issue I am talking about. You NEVER go to a customer in a small club that you KNOW is there to see a certain girl EVERY time he comes in, and when her back is turned tell him to come see you. What kind of shit is that? Do you want someone to do that to you? That is Vegas club cutthroat hustling bullshit and that is why guys don't like coming in the clubs anymore. That is why girls have fights in clubs. IF A GUY IS THERE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE AND ONLY HER AND YOU KNOW IT, YOU LEAVE THAT CUSTOMER ALONE!!!!! She was trying to steal my customer, and that is why sometimes he is not comfortable coming in the club. If he is there by himself, fine, but when another girl's drink is at the table and she just walked away to go on stage, that is called backstabbing.

    I am one of the top selling girls in this club, and NEVER do I make ANY of my money doing shit like that.

    There are plenty of fucking customers that have no one sitting with them that these girls should be talking to and they don't. I understand that money is funny in this business nowadays, but trying to knock another girl down to get it only makes matters worse. A lot of guys who none of these shitty floor workers approach have money, and these guys complain all the time that no one will come to their table.

    Paris, for girls who are good floor workers rule #1 is NEVER avoid customers. If you tell a girl a guy will spend money, she should get her ass over there pronto. If he is a problem, so what, move on, if not, she made easy money. This was a rookie dancer, and for some reason must be uncomfortable with talking to guys. You know the kind of clubs I work in. We're not talking Houston here. Dances are only one way contact, no touching.

    And CK, that is why I say every dancer should take the DW class. These girls don't know what to say to guys, talk about their personal lives, bad mouth other girls to customers, don't know how to dress, how to wear their makeup or do their nails, and do all kinds of shit that turns the customers off and makes them not want to come to the clubs as much. Some training would really cut a lot of these problems down.
    Tina, the same thing has been happening to me lately.. I have very good customer who comes to see me 1-2 times a week... i work at a very small club, and when its slow, the other girls who aren't making money try to approach my table when im in the bathroom, onstage, etc.. They know hes my regular customer.. he has been coming in almost three months weekly to see me.. Its just plain rude and disrespectful. i would never do that to anyone i work with, no matter how much i hate them.... its called respect.... As for Sassfire, ur comments are ridiculous... At least some of us know proper dance etiquette..

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    You are not his wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassfire
    Are you joking? Are you his wife? Where is the contract saying that dancers aren't allowed to talk to him, or approach a table. Sure it may be annoying but they have every right to approach anybody and everybody they want. What country made you the dictator of your strip club? If you were so confident that he will always refuse them, you wouldn't be getting so pissed. Instead you turn it into a mine, mine, MINE, MINE issue. I hope you don't bitch at him about this selfish rant. If so, of course he is going to tell you what you want to hear, considering that you are acting like his wife.
    Stripping is a "Queen of the hill" business, there will always be someone waiting to bump you off. Get use to it. When that guy comes in the club, no matter how long he is still a customer of the club. You have no authority over him and his wallet. He does. The only person who is rude is you.
    Wow, YOU'VE got to be joking! Do you have any sense of courtesy at all? Any dancer with half a brain knows that it is not only extremely rude, but totally inappropriate to try and hustle a customer a dancer is already sitting with. Especially if he is her regular, and that dancer KNOWS he comes in to the club to see her exclusively and noone else. If he occasionally gets dances from other girls, it would be a completely different scenario entirely, but that is NOT the case in this situation. Get a clue! I would never, ever try and hustle a customer that is already sitting with someone, or even if he is sitting alone and I know that he is another girl's regular and never gets dances from anyone else. Not only is it goddamned rude and tacky, but totally lacking in class and tact. If a customer has a dancer sitting with him and he isn't interested in her, he will let her know and move on to someone else, plain and simple. THEN you go talk to him. These girls she is talking about had other prospects but chose to ignore them and went to the one customer they knew had money and came there to see one dancer and one dancer only. You're saying that that is okay? And that she was mad at her customer and trying to control his wallet? Au contraire, hun. Her customer knew where he wanted to spend his money-ON HER. She wasn't mad at her customer, she was made at those girls for being the back-stabbing, low-class bitches they are and had every right to be upset at them.

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    Yes. You are never to approach a customer if a dancer is already there (unless it is to collect a tip during a tipwalk).

    We have a few rude bitches in my club.Don't they realize how pathetic & desperate they look when they behave this way?

    ^^ I agree with the above. They are being low-class and rude.
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    Really? No club I've ever worked in has endorsed such a rule. I mean, there are varying rules about the "stage" issue - about whether a girl can "reserve" a customer while she is onstage, and it is obviously inappropriate to approach him WHILE you're sitting there (on the other hand, we've all had the experience where the guy has said "come back after your stage, after you've gone to the bathroom, put on lipgloss whatever" and we've come back to find another girl sitting there. How often do we walk away from that customer to be polite? Most of the time we don't; we apologize, interrupt and say "hey, I'm back, ready to go?"), but trying to "steal" customer is okay in my book. I've "stolen" many a customer (if that is what you call it when a customer who formerly bought dances from one girl then opted to buy them from me instead) and had many a customer "stolen" without ever thinking there was foul play. Sorry, Tina, I think that particular complaint is kind of weak - like she knows he spends money; OF COURSE she wants him to spend it on her. That is the premise of stripping. I mean he shot her down, good for you - but what if he said yes?
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    thats called low class..... some people have absolutely no shame... The other night when my regular was in, this girl had the nerve to ask me in the dressing room if it was ok for her to sit with my customer for ten minutes... I looked at her like "are u on crack, no I don't think so"....

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    I'm usually pretty jaded to the "She stole my customer, the bitch!" rant, in real life, having heard it so often from questionable sources. Sometimes you can see what the Real Deal is from the booth, if there's time and inclination. Frequently the guy wants desperately to be 'stolen', lol.

    However...

    Tina is most emphatically not what you would describe as a 'questionable source', but a skilled professional with many years experience.

    Especially when in a smaller club, there will be certain guys that are quite obviously there to see one dancer and one dancer only. Everyone knows this, no one in their right mind will try to change it--for one thing it won't work, the guy's usually so smitten with the particular dancer.

    Trying to bust into that situation would be extremely rude for a dancer, and in at least one club I have worked in, could have resulted in severe beating in another dressing room brawl, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sassfire
    You are not his wife.
    Are you a dancer? Your answers are more consistant with a customer than a dancer.

    Jst wondering.


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    Just remember, Karma is a real bitch and what goes around comes around. Tina, she'll get paid back in a really really bad way!!! I can understand if she's new and doesn't understand how things go or really truely didn't know that he was there to see you. If her intentions were malicious, then she's an effin bitch, if she was being "sincere" meaning she reallly didn't know he was there to see you then it could be an honest mistake. I know me still being a new dancer (8 months) and if I started in a new, small club, I might not know and I know I'd never cut throat anyone because I've had it happen to me before and it pisses me off to no end!!! I do hear what you're saying and don't worry, if she was acting in a malicious way, she'll get what's coming to her!!!

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    My god--you mean someone here might actually pretend to be a dancer, when actually they're a fucking guy?!

    Why on earth would anyone do that?
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