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    I live in Vegas and I'm trying to get a new service started for the dancers. It's basically a dancer data base. It's called *edited out*. The idea is that any of the local dancers who sign up will get their own web page on my site. Locals and tourists will be able to log onto my site for free and browse through pictures of the dancers. When they see one they like, they can click on her picture and her web page will pop up. The idea is that each dancer has a couple photos of herself, along with the club, shift and hour she normally works so her customers can locate her. Once it gets going I'll probably charge $20.00 per month or so . I'd like some dancer imput on this idea. Do you think this would work or am I wasting my time setting up a site. (I already have the name registered and the main web page posted on the internet.)
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    You're wasting your time.







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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses
    You're wasting your time.
    yup definitely

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    Have you looked at existing club's web sites? They have schedules up for the dancers (sometimes links to dancer's web sites) and if they can get a dancer to put her picture on the internet - they do.

    How is traffic going to be driven to the web site? By the dancers themselves yes? I bet the statistics for "exotic dancer stripper las vegas" is pretty low. More than likely it is "strip club las vegas."

    Why should they pay 20 bucks a month for what myspace will put up for free? A business card and a cell phone voice mail greeting with a schedule is probably more effective.

    I think it is a good idea... for about five years ago. Right now - it is to late.

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    I've heard of sites like this and actually I dont think its a bad idea. SC's are a popular thing in Vegas, if you can get it somehow linked with vegas adult sites it may very well work if the word can get out to dancers about it. Its worth a try at least...

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    they tried that here...nobody knows about it and they didn't want to spend the money (lots of it) to promote the site. And then not that many dancers were using it. You have to realize not all of us are internet savvy like SW girls. And lots of girls don't want to be on the net.

    Plus girls that want to promote themselves on the internet and customers that want to find them can use myspace....for free.

    this is the site...(warning, it's kind of useless since they don't do anything to it anymore)

    http://strippervision.net/

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    Waste of time. The girls who are interested in that sort of thing are already doing it themselves for free. A centralized site for Vegas strippers seems like a good idea, but you'll never make any money with it.

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    waste of time. myspace is already being utilized by the net-savvy girls for free.

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    Okay, you may have noticed the problem that everyone is picking up here is that you are not really providing anything. Webspace is plentiful and available, so it's like the girls are doing you a service and not the other way around. So the question is: Where's the traffic coming from? If you can show decent traffic that is coming from somewhere other than the referrals of the girls themselves you MAY have something. If all the traffic is coming from the girls themselves all you have is a circle that you are trying to charge them to go around in. Girls can set up journal, myspace pages, yahoo groups etc., so we don't see, offhand, what you have to offer; further if your site is free for customers there is no real reason to believe that you are targetting any audience besides an internet quasi porn one - like there is no real reason to believe that the traffic you have is significantly comprised of people in/going to Vegas rather than people just ogling the free pics. So, unless you have a pretty sound plan in terms of promotion and use tracking that you are not sharing here, Id say you're wasting your time.
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    Default Re: New Service...Am I wasting My time?

    yep,sounds like a waste of time to me as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    Have you looked at existing club's web sites? They have schedules up for the dancers (sometimes links to dancer's web sites) and if they can get a dancer to put her picture on the internet - they do.

    How is traffic going to be driven to the web site? By the dancers themselves yes? I bet the statistics for "exotic dancer stripper las vegas" is pretty low. More than likely it is "strip club las vegas."
    Actually, of all the clubs in Vegas, only about 4 or 5 have web sites and only 1 I've found so far actually has any photos of their girls. (Eight photos to be exact.) As for the directing traffic, ADVERTISING is the key to the whole thing. Business cards in the clubs, flyers around town Ads in the local papers and L.A. My big hope is to get flyers in the hotels on the Strip. That would be huge.

    There were 2 reasons I thought this would be a good service.
    1: When I first started hanging out at Cheetahs, I pretty much stuck with 1 main girl I hit it off with. After about a month, I came into the club one night and found out she had been fired. That was 5 months ago and I still don't know what club she moved to. I also ran into another girl at a different club who I knew from Cheetahs. She told me she had a couple really good customers from Cheetahs that she hadn't been able to contact. She wanted to let them know where she was but had no way to let them know where she had moved to. My site would be perfect for her. All she would have to do is tell her regulars about her web page and when she moved, she could contact me and I'd update her site. Each girl will also have an email link so her customers could email her to find out where she's working.

    The other reason I thought this would be a good idea is because I sometimes chat with the tourests in the club and when I ask them how they found the place, the #1 answer is, "Our taxi driver recommended it." If your club isn't generous to the taxi drivers, how many clients do you think he is delivering to you?
    With my site any tourest will be able to log on for free, click on either the club names or photo page and see photos of the girls. He sees a girl he likes, he clicks on her photo and her page pops up. He'll know exactly where to find her or he can email her to see where and when she'll be working.

    I also plan on having club reviews, articles, tips and other info on the site. Sorry for the lenthy post but quite a few people seem to get the wrong idea about what the site is about. BTW, I don't currently plan on any nude or topless photos on the site at the present time. Strictly head shots and photos in your club outfits.

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    Actually I think that there is similar website here in portland called pdxblackbook. The difference however is that the photographer/owner of the site does all of the photographs himself with the women and makes sure that they get promotional material (like photos of themselves) to distribute to customers. Also he shoots cover images for the local strip club listing rag and always has a two page spread in the magazine, so the girls get lots of exposure.

    Also -- though it may have changed by now -- it's free for the dancer to sign up! It started very small about a year and a half ago (with like four or five girls).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheetahTim View Post
    Actually, of all the clubs in Vegas, only about 4 or 5 have web sites and only 1 I've found so far actually has any photos of their girls. (Eight photos to be exact.) As for the directing traffic, ADVERTISING is the key to the whole thing. Business cards in the clubs, flyers around town Ads in the local papers and L.A. My big hope is to get flyers in the hotels on the Strip. That would be huge.

    There were 2 reasons I thought this would be a good service.
    1: When I first started hanging out at Cheetahs, I pretty much stuck with 1 main girl I hit it off with. After about a month, I came into the club one night and found out she had been fired. That was 5 months ago and I still don't know what club she moved to. I also ran into another girl at a different club who I knew from Cheetahs. She told me she had a couple really good customers from Cheetahs that she hadn't been able to contact. She wanted to let them know where she was but had no way to let them know where she had moved to. My site would be perfect for her. All she would have to do is tell her regulars about her web page and when she moved, she could contact me and I'd update her site. Each girl will also have an email link so her customers could email her to find out where she's working.

    The other reason I thought this would be a good idea is because I sometimes chat with the tourests in the club and when I ask them how they found the place, the #1 answer is, "Our taxi driver recommended it." If your club isn't generous to the taxi drivers, how many clients do you think he is delivering to you?
    With my site any tourest will be able to log on for free, click on either the club names or photo page and see photos of the girls. He sees a girl he likes, he clicks on her photo and her page pops up. He'll know exactly where to find her or he can email her to see where and when she'll be working.

    I also plan on having club reviews, articles, tips and other info on the site. Sorry for the lenthy post but quite a few people seem to get the wrong idea about what the site is about. BTW, I don't currently plan on any nude or topless photos on the site at the present time. Strictly head shots and photos in your club outfits.
    I get what you're saying, but I still think it's a waste of time. You are in Las Vegas for chrissakes! It's not hard to find a dancer you like there (and customers know this so why would they research a website to find a girl they might like?) Plus it's not really a place where customers are regulars (or dancers, for that matter). Why would a customer go to your site anyway? Are you going to spend the money necessary to promote the hell out of it so customers and dancers trust it as a viable resource?

    And if a girl wants to post pictures of herself and if a guy wants to check out clubs, there's always SCL. And they often write where girls move to on there anyway.

    So far you've offered nothing that I, as a dancer, would pay for.

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    Still a waste of time dude. Either let the domain lapse or figure out something else to do with it. I say again, you will NEVER make any money with this site.

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