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    How does it plan to go down?

    Im just curious how does a raid/sting usually get set up for them to arrest/ticket or whatever they do in the end?

    Are there certain things to look for when a place is about to be raided?

    I want to be on top of my shit if/when anything happens. I try to stay within my laws around here. *knocks on wood*
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    I asked the same thing when I got hired, and was told it doesn't happen very often, but when it does 9 times outta 10 they get a tip somehow beforehand, and that when the fuzz arrives they play a special song to alert the dancers.

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    Not consistently. If there's going to be a large sting sometimes you'll see a bunch of undercover cars - usually not in the parking lot, just scattered around the neighborhood - they just look like regular cop cars but black and with the big antennas. Of course, you have to get there at the right time...

    When you see cops in the club they are sometimes with a female officer (almost always in Cali, in my outdated experience). They almost always have cop shoes on. They almost always ask questions like, "how much does x cost? what will you do for $x?" to try and get a prostitution charge on you. If you dance for them and you're allowed to touch them, you can usually feel a wire. If you see them walk, you'll notice that "Ima cop, I gotta gun" swagger.

    But then, sometimes you won't notice anything, and usually once you do there's nothing you can do about it.

    FWIW, in about ten years of dancing I've been arrested once and was let go with no charges (but I was lucky).



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    ^^ jw lena, but what was the arrest for? (if you arent ok answering this, totally understandable)

    Love it!

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    Indecent exposure, and I was only topless, which was legal there. Then they were going to change it to Public Lewdness, but my lawyer had a chat with them and they changed their minds.



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    What are cop shoes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    What are cop shoes?
    Professional looking shoes you can run in:



    They usually have thick soles on them.

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    Lena's info is good.

    This is what I think of as cop shoes:


    Or this:


    Notice the thick soles Deogol mentioned.

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    Lmfao, sorry I just started cracking up when I scrolled down the page and saw those horribly ugly shoes. hahahaha. Like, ugly black shoes everywhere! Taking over the screen!!
    ..And I haven't even been drinking yet lol.

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    LOL, yep, those shoes.



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    Hi TigersMilk! I'm from San Diego too so I know how you feel about the cop situation here - its definitely important to be aware. From what I have heard their main focus here now is inspections - not raids. I've been through an inspection before and basically all they do is call all the girls in the dressing room and make sure everyone has their liscences. There were a couple of girls who got ticketed, but it was for things that are clearly outside the rules. In fact, the cops were actually really nice! They did come in with a female cop (2 males and one female) so that may be one thing to watch for. But, as long as we follow the rules we have nothing to worry about.

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    ^^ Thanks for the advice. I didnt know they do inspections. I wonder the guy taking pictures of the place was part of inspections too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaniAnne View Post
    There were a couple of girls who got ticketed, but it was for things that are clearly outside the rules.
    Do you know specifically what they were ticketed for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    Indecent exposure, and I was only topless, which was legal there. Then they were going to change it to Public Lewdness, but my lawyer had a chat with them and they changed their minds.
    I'm confused by how you were arrested for being topless when it's legal there?

    I understand if I'm asking something too intrusive: did the SC pay for your lawyer at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    sometimes you'll see a bunch of undercover cars - they just look like regular cop cars but black and with the big antennas.
    Not always black here, but the tell-tale sign is the antennas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    sometimes with a female officer
    ALWAYS have a female present over here. You also can refuse to be searched by a male.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    "how much does x cost? what will you do for $x?" to try and get a prostitution charge on you.
    In Aus this is considered entrapment, but they can offer you money and say "what will you do for this?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    But then, sometimes you won't notice anything, and usually once you do there's nothing you can do about it.
    If youre doing everything right there should be no problem, BUT if there is dodgy things happening, even if you arent involved, you may be implicated.
    Theres no sense crying over every mistake,
    you just keep on trying till you run out of cake

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    Cops are like marines, never at ease and always checkin out the seen. Most custies are Mr. Googly Eyes. I dont like it when a guy comes in , and is asking about prices with out checking out the merchandise,

    Im in Cali Too.....it's the luck of the draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexy_celeste View Post


    In Aus this is considered entrapment, but they can offer you money and say "what will you do for this?"
    I'm 90% sure entrapment laws do not exist in Australia.
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    In my Exp, usually there is always a few cops that are regulars to the club, friends with the girls or managment/dj's and will always give the club a heads up when they are on the way. Of course I have never seen a raid in WNY, only an occasional few cops looking for some dancer or custie.

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    all i know is, that here, they tend to spend a LOT of money and have A LOT of fun before doing the actual bust. one club i was at, the undercovers spent over 2 grand before making arrests.

    gooooooo taxes!!!

    i'm a no-extras girl, but back then i was working at a very high contact club where extras were rampant. thankfully, i wasn't at work the night it happened, because a lot of "good girls" got busted for really stupid shit.

    never assume that you won't get in trouble just because you don't do extras. i mean, hell, in my county it's TECHNICALLY illegal for me to touch my own boobs in a provocative way for money... and i do that aprox 378 times a shift. nevermind all the times i touch other girls boobs (also not legal)

    there's also "solicitation of alcohol", thong width rules, etc. etc.

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    I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for but I was in a raid one time and it was because of "zoning." It was about 10pm on Wednesday night and I happened to be on stage at the time. All of sudden like 10-15 cops came in pretty much plain clothes with the badges around their necks. I don't remember who made the announcement but someone got on the DJ speaker and told the guys to get out and told us to get in the dressing room. We were told to provide our DL and get dressed. They took all of our Id's and went through our stuff in the back. They lined up made us write our names and SSN on a piece of a paper and then took a picture of each of us. One girl was arrested for some bullshit parking fine type thing. The took both managers that night away in hand cuffs and then let us leave. Pretty fucked up. It was some bullshit to do with zoning and they re-opened a few weeks later.

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    Think you can't get in trouble if you're not an "extras" girl? Think again.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0203062strip1.html

    and

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip1.html

    Here's some quotes from some of the police reports:

    PROSTITUTION:
    "...proceeded to commit prostitution by performing a sexual activity in exchange for $30.00. Def<endant> used her buttocks to rub on my genitalia in a motion that is the sexual activity of masturbation..."

    SOLICITATION OF AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE:
    "...did solicit your affiant for an alcoholic beverage to wit: standing next to me at the bar, she stated, "I'm thirsty." I said, "I didn't know you could drink while working." She said, "Well, yeah," and pointed to other drinks sitting at the bar. At that time she looked back at me and said, "Well?" I stated, "Quit beating around the bush," and she said, "I want a damn drink." I motioned to the bartender and pointed to the defendant. After the drink was made, I asked the defendant what it was, and she said "Vodka, Redbull" and one other item I could not understand..."

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    My heart just breaks for those girls with the mugshots.
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    ^^^Mine, too... That's made me incredibly paranoid. These girls got busted and got prostitution charges for something that I'll admit I do several hundred times a night. It seems like just WORKING in a stripclub these days (even if you're the cleanest, three-foot airdancer in the club) is enough to be charged with prostitution.

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    Is it me or are the busts happening in Florida, Seattle and Portland a lot?
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    ^^^ yes some DA's can really come up with 'tortured' definitions for prostitution. Consider this example ... Two dancers are on stage at the same time. Custys are sitting stageside and tipping. One dancer touches the other dancer's breast. Poof up jumps a guy who busts both girls for prostitution.

    This conforms to a 'tortured' definition of prostitution because
    A. it involved 'sexual contact' i.e. the breast being touched
    B. it involved (supposed) sexual stimulation (of the stageside customer, visually)
    C. money changed hands i.e. the customer tip
    In some states there is no legal requirement in the prostitution law that the person paying the money needs to be a participant in the 'sexual contact'.

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    ^^ i got arrested for touching a girls butt on stage Public lewdness, what i dont get tho is that it's not public, you pay to go inside a private club, right? Anyways I had no idea that was wrong, I did it right infront of the uniformed cop, like an idiot. But I was new and the same cop came in on his nights off and encouraged that kind of behavior.

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