What ever happened to "Peace On Earth..."?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061127/...nti_peace_sign



What ever happened to "Peace On Earth..."?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061127/...nti_peace_sign
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well damn. this is why i will never buy a home in one of those "home owner association" places.
south florida has alot of those and i've heard nothing good...a guy went to paint his house and had the color approved then the association decided after he painted the house they didnt like it and began to fine him, the worst ever was a WWII vet hung the american flag on a typical flag pole on his property and he was taken to court for it. luckily most of the time things like that can be appealed and usualy thrown out of court...it only stands if things are a hazard or a bad bad eye sore.




Utterly ridiculous. There are no more words that I can think of....
Guy #1: I'd totally hit that.
Guy #2: Dude, I'd hit that so hard whoever could pull me out would become the King of England.
I read that on AOL, Seriously people......I can think of a million other things that need our attention besides a woman's peace sign wreath!
lame lame lame.



seriously...if those association people weren't so busy being nosey and bitchy they could...oh i dunno do charity work for the homeless...help orphans...voulenteer at YMC for under privlaged youth...rummage sale for charity...at least decorate the neighborhood for one of those x-mas lights things...well we get the idea. just too busy beign stuck up.
I'm with you JettaNyx - I won't buy anything with a home owners association either. There are just to many stories about harassment and un-american ideals going on in those places these days.
A good idea in the beginning, but I think more and more people are thinking like we do.




^^ In cali, it's near impossible to find new homes without HOAs. You have to go rural/old neighborhoods. Man, what's the point of owning a home in some of those places? you PAY to have people tell you what you can do to your house. Lu-di-crous.
I'm the prez of my HOA, and it sucks all the time. Thing is, there are bylaws, and they have to be enforced uniformly. If the rule is no displays on the outside of the property, then that's the rule. It applies to everyone.
Feature costumes for sale!
I just don't know how much is needed to decrease someone else's property value by a neighbor.
Mostly from what I have seen, is that gentrification runs the messy kind right out of the neighborhood anyhow.
If anything - the extreme uniformity enforced can cause entire housing divisions to decrease in value all together. There is little chance to do something to make your house stand out in an sales manner. The answer is "Hey, the house at the front gate sold $50K less last month - you can cut your price too."
I suspect it is a false argument.





Sometimes my fellow Coloradans make me want to scream.
Honestly, as if my friends in other cities weren't making enough fun of me for living in the state with Focus on the Family headquarters, 3 hour Krispy Kreme donut lines, high school masacres, unsolved child beauty queen murders, and bad Time-Life music compilations... now this?
I know there's better things to do here!
What Mia says.
My own HOA is inactive. A friend of mine is in a totalitarian one - had to hire a lawyer to write the snarl letter to get the HOA to forego fines on something that wasn't even a violation. Crazy. (The letter worked, proving that there are good uses for lawyers sometimes.)
The fact is that if you want more rights, you give up more control. If you want more control, you're going to give up more rights. It's an eternal balance, and different places find different balances.





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And history shows that those who trade their rights for security, ahem, "control", eventually end up losing both.
I'm sorry but HOA's are merely another vehicle for neurotic conformist busybodies to accumulate more control over our lives and send this once free nation sliding headfirst into bondage. If these associations were all fine and dandy, stories like this wouldn't be making the news. Hell, here's a whole website documenting HOA abuses.
http://www.ahrc.com/new/index.php/src/news
About the only reason I don't suggest HOA's be constitutionally banned is because people are stupid enough on their own free will to surrender their freedom for some illusion of raised property values, that is assuming these people even bothered to read the CC&R's tied to their deed. The problem is that in many parts of the country, if you want to buy a decent home, or pretty much any new home, you're pretty much resigned to joining an HOA.
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At the risk of thread drift, I can't agree. The balance can, and has, drifted back and forth along the scale, usually in a narrow band situated toward the middle, at least in my observation. It's when you get too far to one side or the other that it gets out of whack.
But I actually woudn't mind making some of the more oppressive HOA provisions unconstitutional. There's precedent for it: You cannot sign your rights against death or slavery away. It wouldn't bother me if there were degrees of expression that you couldn't constitutionally sign away. Of course, the devil's in the details on that one.

I'll still take my HOA anyday. I don't like when the rules affect me (like they say you can only have two pets per house), but I like that my neighbors can't put up an ugly chain-link fence or keep their Christmas lights up all year long. I used to live in a house without a HOA and it was cool that nobody cared if I mowed my lawn, but you know....I'm now glad I have a reason to. I love Stepford! I don't understand why anyone get so bent up over HOAs. If you don't want one, you don't have to have one.
(although, in this case, I would pay the fine....it'd be worth the price of admission to the angry Republicans frenzy)





She has been swamped with offers to help pay the fine:
Support rolls in for peace sign




My first husband use to say "f*&k em' if they can't take a joke and f*&k 'em if they can" The HOA's need to got a hold of themselves.
""Somebody could put up signs that say drop bombs on Iraq. If you let one go up you have to let them all go up," he said in a telephone interview Sunday."
Oh puh-LEASE!!! What a friggin' Nazi!
I'm just going to put computer-print out on my front door that says "Happy Birthday, Jesus!"
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All I can think of was the dude who got into trouble at a mall in upstate NY for wearing a pro-peace shirt.
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