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    Im leaving my club because I have found it to be too competitive and girls not playing by the rules.

    In our state, any kind of contact is illegal. And, if you were to get caught they charge you with a felony offense and 1500 fine.

    Yet, i see lots of girls grinding on laps and allowing ass contact, etc.

    Because of this, i get bullied and harassed by custys wanting me to do that, when I am trying to look out for my own ass..not to mention i am not a big fan of contact. I go to dance, but i dont want to grind or be touched. Just my preference.

    Does this ever bother anyone else??

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    Ummm... yeah. It bothers me a whole lot anyway, but don't let the guys try to take advantage. If you're leaving your club, make sure you check out the others before you work there. You definately don't want to end up in a place with even more illegal mileage.
    With all the stupid things guys will say, stay cool.

    "Her apartment is littered with soggy G-strings and cheap 8-inch heeled shoes, along with empty tubes of body glitter, mascara, prescription drugs, zit cream, Aqua Net and Polaroid pictures of her and her "friends" engaged in some drinking and dancing on St. Patrick's Day last year. " My God....

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    Honestly? Extras are becoming more and more prevalent. Even at my old club...contact was a big no-no. But, people still did it. You have to stick by what you feel best doing. There are still a lot of no-contact dancers who can make good money by just being good at what they do (hustling) and not grinding everyone.

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    Default Re: girls not following the rules, am i just naive?

    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    Honestly? Extras are becoming more and more prevalent. Even at my old club...contact was a big no-no. But, people still did it. You have to stick by what you feel best doing. There are still a lot of no-contact dancers who can make good money by just being good at what they do (hustling) and not grinding everyone.
    Yeah, I hate to say it, but VG is right. NJ is a no contact state too, but just try to find a club that doesn't look the other way or actually encourage this type of behavior here.

    Good luck in finding what you're looking for.

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    ^^^ the point that Venus and Dylan are commenting about is the major reason that I retired from live dancing. With recent changes in the amount of contact some girls are willing to offer, and the increased customer expectations which result, have essentially created a situation where it's impossible for a dancer to earn decent money without putting herself at risk of an eventual bust.

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    Honestly, I think you're going to find that anywhere you go. There are always going to be girls that will bend the rules, even in the cleanest clubs! Granted, some places are much much worse than others, but I don't think you're going to find a club that's squeeky clean. I know how you feel, I do not allow touching, my club is an airdance club, on the main floor you don't have to worry about that but back in VIP, I've seen things happen that have put me in bad situations. If you're in a situation that you can't handle, leave the VIP room, it's not worth the money! What I do is normally when I do VIP's, I try to only do them alone, not do the group VIP unless it's with girls that I know that are on the same level as me but it doesn't always work out that way.

    Try either just doing dances on the main floor or only doing VIP's alone, not in groups. I have customers many times will say things to me "Well, so in so let me touch her, blah, blah". I tell them, well that's illegal and if you were to be caught, she'd get fired, you'd get banned from the club. Say that to a customer and always get your money upfront!!!! ALWAYS! And as far as the other girls, don't let them get to you! Just ignore them, you're not there to make friends, you're there to make money. If someone won't leave you alone, either stick up for yourself in a non confrontational way but let them know you won't put up with that or report it to the manager.

    I hate to say it but I think you're going to find some extras in just about any club nowadays!

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    Default Re: girls not following the rules, am i just naive?

    my club is pretty good actually but it depends on all the dancers working together to keep it that way.
    recently a new girl started and some dancers saw her breaking the rules and reported it to management. she is no longer at the club.
    thats the only way it can be stopped or controlled is by a "ratting out" policy.
    good on u for not just accepting something that u weren't happy with.
    i hate customers who try to take over the dance and tell u how to dance.
    im tempted to say "hey dickhead if u think u can do a better job at this why dont i sit down and u attempt to give me an airdance?"

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    Default Re: girls not following the rules, am i just naive?

    The best dancer is one that never looses control of his/her client.

    I find this when I'm hustling on the floor all the time. Guys will try to gain control of the conversation and throw you off. They'll try to control how they tip you onstage. Or they'll even try to gain control of the lapdance, by ordering you around or trying to get over with extras. They'll do ANYTHING to control the situation to make them feel better about themselves. I have to constantly pull the reins on their a## and let them know who's boss.

    And as far as girls bending the rules, it's apart of the game and the only thing most of us can do to survive is to try and stay on top. Good Luck!

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