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    Default Should I dance for my regular...

    I've been bouncing this idea off of my head for the past week now. I just recently got fed up with my club and I decided to leave FOR GOOD! I've written about my reg in a recent post http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77452 and I'd really like your opionion on doing private shows for him since I'm no longer in the club.

    I'm not all that nervous about dancing at his home because hey I used to do private shows And secondly, I'm not worried about him wanting sex or "sexual favors"







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    Default Re: Should I dance for my regular...

    Then what ARE you apprehensive about?
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    Default Re: Should I dance for my regular...

    I think I'm just kinda need to be psyched up on HOW to ask him if he'd be interested in this sort of thing. I've never really brought the subject up to him before. Any ideas Cam? Or anyone else??







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    Just come out and ask... "Hi, (name). It's Cinn. Since I have recently decided to leave my club and I did value you as a customer as well as enjoyed performing for you I was wondering if you would be open to me doing a private show for you ? Instead of you having to go the club, the club in a manner of speaking will be coming to you in the form of me. Would you be interested ?"

    Are you going to be asking over the phone, in person or via email ? The method of communication will also influence what you say etc.

    I say give the guy some respect and don't beat around the bush just come out with the question and ask it. Then again, he is your regular and you know how to approach him best in the end.

    As you have said (and I'm aware) it isn't like you are an inexperienced newbie to the whole private party dancing thing. You would know what to do and how to handle yourself in a one-on-one situation.


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    I'll be talking to him on the phone. I'm just afraid he's gonna bring up the idea of going out to eat, or to the movies. Those were always his ideas when he would come to visit me in the club.







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    Just be up-front with him and tell him that you won't have time for those activities as you have other commitments however you could easily do private one on one shows with him. If he does ask for more (sex, movies, etc), then take the offer away and just realise that he is lost.


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    Default Re: Should I dance for my regular...

    I always call them clients as opposed to customer...somehow I think it privileges them a bit more.
    If he brings up movies, dinner, what not-- you can just say that since this would still be work, he's welcome to use his time to do that, however since you have bills to pay you'd still have to be paid regardless of the activity.

    That way-- who knows? Maybe he WILL pay you to take you out to a movie. Two hours for a movie as opposed to one hour of VIP dancing makes for double the money for a fraction of the "work"

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    I wouldn't cut it out personally as then he will know how you feel about him and not get the wrong idea nor be able to find a way to get to use to "be friends" as such. In the end, if he is just finding a way to get "in" with you (friends or otherwise) then he will take offense to the use of the word client/customer. If he is not, he will not take offense as that is how he thought you saw him anyway and thus would probably continue to act that way with you (in a client/customer way).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah View Post
    Good point, but why use either. Is there a downside to cutting "valued you as a customer/client" out of GCGs suggested spiel and just using the "enjoyed dancing for you"?
    not at all. I wasn't dissing GCG at all-- she's extremely valuable in everything she adds to SW. I was just arguing one point of semantics. Hell, you could even say, I've really enjoyed having you as a honey....or any other sort of nickname that cuts that out.

    however...customer or client in the wordage does cement the business WORKING relationship.

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    ^^ I realised you weren't dissing me. You just use a different term.

    I must admit that people I have a business working relationship with inside a strip club are customers whereas I refer to people I have a business working relationship with in a private party setting clients. Just semantics and a way for me to distinguish where each do business with my primarily.

    In the end, use whatever word/term you feel comfortable with that will make sure it communicates with the guy that you see him in a business setting. You don't want to give the wrong impression due to the word(s) you use and thus giving him an "in" for activities that aren't business-like etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    I'm just afraid he's gonna bring up the idea of going out to eat, or to the movies. Those were always his ideas when he would come to visit me in the club.
    Oh, he will. You can be guaranteed of that. Once you start performing in the privacy of his home, he'll put the hardcore press on. I mean, c'mon girl! The guy is in love with you!

    In a sense, this is a form of "stepping it up a notch." He'll probably fall even more in love with you and believe even more strongly that he has a chance. Have you detected any form of emotional instability from him*? If you have...might not wanna go that route. If he seems cool enough, eh, go for it and see how it pans out.

    *remind me to tell you the story sometime of my unmedicated schizophrenic regular.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    I think I'm just kinda need to be psyched up on HOW to ask him if he'd be interested in this sort of thing. I've never really brought the subject up to him before. Any ideas Cam? Or anyone else??
    "Hi Johnny!!! It's Cinny! How ARE you? I'm good. Listen, I don't know if you've heeeeaaaaarrrrrd...buuuuut I'm no longer working in the club. HowEVVVERRR, I *will* be doing private parties and I would LOVE to continue performing for you. "

    That's probably what I would say...but in a sugary sweet baby talk valley girl voice...if you know what I mean.


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    From someone who is on the receiving end of those phone calls all the time:

    Don't be cute about it. If I were a regular of yours, I'd jump at the chance to see you outside the club, with whatever restrictions you set up. He's already indicated the desire to go OTC; now you're providing the opportunity. Set up the ground rules and the fee structure, make a date to do it and then don't flake. Nothing pisses us off more than a dancer who initiates, then bails at the last minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    I've been bouncing this idea off of my head for the past week now...I've written about my reg in a recent post... and I'd really like your opionion on doing private shows for him since I'm no longer in the club.
    From your posts seems like you've got mixed thoughts about this guy - he's good company, a good source of income, but wants a relationship, which you patently don't.

    (a) How's he going to react to making it clear that you'll only see him OTC on a dance for money basis? Is he gonna take it as a positive step in his plans to marry you, or is he gonna see it as the shattering of his dreams as reality bites?

    (b) What are you going to do about security? Granted, you may trust this guy, but are you going to arrange to call a friend, etc, at a prearranged time so they know you have left OK.

    (c) What sort of shows are you going to do and what mix of shows/chat are you going to use to fill your time?

    Why don't you put it as a mixed thing - "hey, you can take me out for a meal, and I'll come back to your place for a 20 minute show - you know how much I like dancing for you."

    Sort of a combination of socialising and eroticism. Also leaves your options open for how things develop - if he settles for meal/show it's probably easier work for you.

    It may also come over as less commercial than purely coming over and dancing. If you actualy like the guy as nice company/good source of income, you may also both find it more relaxing.

    You also need to set out some ground rules first - tell him you get turned on dancing for him and you only do it for people you trust, but that he has to agree some rules so that CK can feel safe and have fun at the same time.

    But above all - consider your safety first. (i.e Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    From someone who is on the receiving end of those phone calls all the time:

    Don't be cute about it. If I were a regular of yours, I'd jump at the chance to see you outside the club, with whatever restrictions you set up. He's already indicated the desire to go OTC; now you're providing the opportunity. Set up the ground rules and the fee structure, make a date to do it and then don't flake. Nothing pisses us off more than a dancer who initiates, then bails at the last minute.

    CP
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    Agreed with the guys above. Make your rules clear. Don't stand him up. If you don't feel like socializing, please say so. And by all means make the offer and see how he reacts. If he doesn't like the rules, he can always make a counterproposal, you can negotiate, and ultimately you are the judge. Don't feel obligated.

    Unlike CP, I don't get these offers regularly, although I'd appreciate them.

    Remember that without the supervision of the club, there is an implicit additional risk and "danger" in the sense that each of you will be more vulnerable, more susceptible, more exciting, perhaps more tempting, less defensible, etc. So, be careful.

    Oh, yes! And please let us know how things went.
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    Default Re: Should I dance for my regular...

    From someone who is on the receiving end of those phone calls all the time:

    Don't be cute about it. If I were a regular of yours, I'd jump at the chance to see you outside the club, with whatever restrictions you set up. He's already indicated the desire to go OTC; now you're providing the opportunity. Set up the ground rules and the fee structure, make a date to do it and then don't flake. Nothing pisses us off more than a dancer who initiates, then bails at the last minute.

    CP
    100% true
    If you don't feel like socializing, please say so.
    Remember that without the supervision of the club, there is an implicit additional risk and "danger" in the sense that each of you will be more vulnerable, more susceptible, more exciting, perhaps more tempting, less defensible, etc. So, be careful.
    I have to agree completely with every word of the above.

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