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    UGH!

    Ok, i just want to vent. please don't post anything like "oh, id hate to work in a place like that." it will just make me feel worst

    well, here there isnt much clubs to choose from. id say there is only bout 4 that are OK/clean and have an opptertunity to make some money(in my opinon).
    and here, you have to be 21 to legally dance. (So bullshit)

    anyways, my club(which will go unamed at the moment) hires underage girls, its not a problem. mostly all girls are under 21.

    i was so pissed last friday. the stupid manager was yelling at girls, saying "CMON - it's ROLL CALL! That means GO!" (roll call is a thing where all us girls have to go on stage, because its a 2 for 1dance specail). its like we're not yer fucking slaves. i cant beileve he was yelling at girls. i was in the dressing room talking to another girl jus for a few minutes, and one of the other managers was like, "cmon, talk in the bar so people can notice you!" and litterally pushed us out.
    they try to PUSH us to sell dances. they tell us "cmon, try to make some more money" however, they get HALF of our fucking dance money ANYWAYS!(dances are 20, we only get 10). so obvisouly they just want OUR MONEY!

    i was talking to this other guy who worked at the club(hes not really a manager tho), i was complaining bout how we should get just a bit more money for the dances, since we are the ones doing the work, and fending off gropey old men.
    i said we shud at least get 15...if not, at least like 13 or something, just a little extra. he didn't even understand, he told me it would be "too confusing".

    BULLSHIT! extra money is not confusing to me.


    i usually rest my legs up on the tables, when i just wanna kick back.
    one of the security guys told me to "take my legs off the table" i played stupid and said , "What? you like my shoes? THANKS!" then he walked by again and told me to take them off..WHEN I WAS TALKING TO A CUSTOMER!!!!!!!! I WAS PISSED!
    what is this, SCHOOL???!!

    they are tottaly trying to squeeze us for money every chance they get. they probably think since most of us are young, it's OK to take advantage of us.

    and one time, i stayed i nthe "private booth" "too long" ( i was putting my clothes back on) and the guy who counts the dances said he charged me for one more dance. i said, "WHAT? I Was DRESSING!" (we have to pay 10 dollars every dance)
    i finnaly convinced him to earase that "dance" (because i was just in the private both for the half of the next song after i was done with a dance with a guy)

    ALSO, since friday, they started this "10 dance minium" on the weekends. i t hankfully made more than 10, but i dont get it. so if u only do 8 dances, u have to pay the 10 for each dance that u didnt get? 20 more bucks??? thats tottaly not FUCKING FAIR! its OUR FUCKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!

    also, they put us on stage, even if theyre are like no guys in the club.they are strict bout it too. one time, a girl was smoking outside(no smoking is allowed inside in ALL bars/clubs in hawaii now) and one of the security guys was yelling at her saying, "WHERE HAVE U BEEN? UR ON STAGE LIKE, RIGHT NOW!" (and there was only like TWO guys at the club. whats the BIG FUCKING DEAL?)

    when its the ROll call, the 2 for 1 dance specail, if we dont get a dance, they sometimes bug us, "hey, go get a dance". its like WTF? how if i dont fucking feel like it? how if i wanna go 2 the fucking bathroom?

    and anotehr thing, they dont pay us hourly, or at all, yet we cant come and go?
    what the??


    grrrrr. but its hard to find another club that will hire u and LET u work the night shift. i make good money at my club(tho it has been slow) so i dont mind the money, i jus hate the mangement and the stupid rules.

    i started working at this nicer club, its way better. u get 18 a dance(dances are 25) and u can go on stage as long as u want or as short as u want(because there are so many dancers, and there are 4 stages, and stages can have like 8 girls on there!) AND they pay u 50 dollars a shift to work there. the only tip out is the dj - 7 bucks! and the bartender and bouncer, just a few bucks or so. not BAD!

    however, i have to work the day shift there, because im not 21. theyre more strict bout hiring udnerage girls. *Sigh*

    so im trying figure out a way i can work both, without getting drained. because while the other club is nicer, i cant expect to make the same money i can at night. thoiugh, working a few days at the new club wont be so bad, i suppose. i dont know, ive feeling SO DRAINED LATELY!

    ill try to two remaing clubs to see if i can get hired for the night shift. its so hard here! grrr!

    thanks to anyone who listened.

    whats a gal to do?
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    wait until you are "of age" or fuck Hawaii and come to Australia where the legal age is 18 years old. Then you can get hired with no troubles and have ALOT more clubs to choose from


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    Your 1st club doesn't sound that bad. At most clubs, espically better ones, they'll push you around, b/c they can. It sucks, but it's the way it is at most places. If that's where you can make the most, then it's the end of the story....

    I have a dream, that someday all dancers will be treated fairly!!!!

    Best of luck, and how soon do you turn 21?

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    I don't know why but after reading this I get a strong feeling of Deja Vu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post
    I don't know why but after reading this I get a strong feeling of Deja Vu.
    hehe, oh no its not. there used to be one here, but it closed down(before i even moved out here in hawaii)

    good guess tho

    p.s good play on words. "get a strong feeling of...deja vu." it makes sense both ways!
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    Hmm...

    Why am I reading this going .. 'so they want girls who work and act like ladies'?

    Honestly I dont see anything wrong with it. Alot of clubs take a cut of your money, alot of clubs put girls on stage no matter what because it makes the guys want to stay when they walk in the door. Empty stage = empty bar.

    As for resting legs on the table while talking to a customer.. well if i saw another dancer doing that id say something to her too because it looks really lazy and unlady like.

    Im sick of girls bitching about clubs wanting them to work. This is a JOB not a lifestyle.

    Call me a bitch but honestly I think its good on the managers to push their girls to work.

    Dont ever work in Canada if you cant handle rules.

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    Um yea not every SC. But Ive worked at a club that took $8 out of every 20. Sometimes more for promo dances... blue light specials.

    To answer the OP:
    Yes, selling dances is what its all about all the time. I mean hey its your paycheck. Cant get paid if youre not on the floor selling. However, I have to say that your club is cutting severly into your profits. 1/2 is a freakin lot. If there is any way you can find or search for a better club anything would probably be worth it financially for you.

    As for not being lady like (ie legs on table) thats not cute. Im not saying you dont hold class of youre not lady like... just remember what your body is doing and saying (body language) at all times. It can effect your sale in a good or bad way.
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    I'll add now..

    I only skimmed through the thread because most of the rants were making me roll my eyes going 'no wonder guys think strippers are lazy'.

    If I missed anything thats worth ranting about someone tell me and i'll retract my comments.

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    Doormen will watch you in the lap dance area, or the DJs, depends on the club. The put a check mark by your name for every dance you do.

    Other places collect the money from the guy up front and the club pays you your share at the end of the night. It varies from place to place.

    As for free dances... why would you work for free?

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    I'm trying to figure out why you're angry at managers for.. well, managing.

    The foot on the table thing is pretty tacky IMO.. it may not be school, but it's ALSO A PLACE OF BUSINESS. Do you put your feet on the table in a restaurant?


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    windy...is ur club nude or topless? is it no contact? i dont like the fact they get 1/2 of your money, but all the nude clubs where i work, we only charge 10 for a dance, so thats what we make anyway. atleast theyre not charging 10 a dance and taking 5, ya know? its really not that bad. like someone previously said...if this is where you can make most money where you live, just go to work, make your money, and tough it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janessa View Post
    But what if you want to do a dance or two for free? You still gotta pay? And how do they know how many dances you do?
    Yea at the club I worked at if they thought you were doing another day they (the bouncers) would mark you for another dance. Sometimes they would under count and sometimes over count the dances. Then came the club politics and paying off the bouncers so they wouldnt count so many dances. Yes, if they do count X amount of dances and you only did Y amount you still have to pay. I got tired of being reemed and left.
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    well, ya the foot on the table DOES look tacky, i know, but i was just having a really bad night. i just felt depressed that whole day, tired, drained, and having really bad boyfriend problems. i just hate wen people tell me what to do, i dont know, ive been that way since i was a little brat

    anyways, maybe what im complaining bout doesnt seem so bad to some of u, but i just felt horriable. thats all. some of the posts some of made didnt really help. haha. but whatever. its alright.

    i just wanted to share how i felt uncomfortable with the club i work at.
    but i guess ill jus have to tough it out. i do try to get the MOST dances i can a night, i just dont see it as nessary as the managers on our ass yelling and pushing to sell our dances.(dont any of u see this?) i bet if we got MOST of the money from the dances, they wudnt say anything. bleh.

    oh, and the club is nude with no contact. (even tho im sure some girls let it slide, which i dont care). i dont because i have a b/f and i just dont feel comfortable with it.

    yah, tigersmilk, that club u said that counted yer dances is like mine - that policy SUCKS.

    janessa- thanks for the sympathy, and well the clubs ive worked at here take an amount for each dance u do. weird. i dont see it as bad, but half i think is WAY too much. and if u wanted to give a free dance to say a good old friend or a b/f..ive never done it, but i wud have to say u wud have to work something out with the guy who counts the dances.

    and goldcoastgirl, i was thinkin of moving to australia. sounds nice
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    Am I the only one whos laughing at this?

    Your managers push you to make money so they dont have to listen to you bitch about not making money.

    Also i've worked at clubs that dont even take a cut of our lap dance money and they still fine up to $200 for not working the floor.

    Lazy strippers = dead bar.

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    yeah but pushy managers is bad for morale too--

    I'm not going to say find another club. I'm not going to ask if you can dance for parties, and I'm not going to say use this energy to become a travelling dancer.

    However--
    for just ONE night, I'd be really curious to see what would happen if you worked reverse psychology on them. Tip the VIP guy and maybe he'll let you slide and get more money and thus tip him out more.

    try to find the loopholes to exploit the system and become their number one girl. Most likely-- yeah, they'll be total assholes anyways. But maybe, you'll get a little more understanding just because you've buttered them up.

    But yeah, I'm not going to tell you that you REALLY need to travel. Leave that to the girls who put up with zero bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janessa View Post
    Is it normal for SC to take $$ out of EVERY dance you do? (I'm asking anyone who is reading!)

    Depends on the club. Alot of clubs still charge a fee/rent to the dancers however there are a few clubs around the country (Honey Pot in Darwin, Players Showgirls in Gold Coast, etc) that do take a percentage of each dance. These clubs usually have a desk you have to pass by and "sign in" with prior to going into the private dance rooms/areas. No going around it (as there are usually cameras watching the desk itself because money is being exchanged).


    dont see it as nessary as the managers on our ass yelling and pushing to sell our dances.(dont any of u see this?)
    Someone beat me to it -- yeah but pushy managers is bad for morale too -- as I couldn't agree more! I've worked in clubs similiar where the managers or whoever thinks they have enough power/pull in the club to do so will tell you off for spending a couple of minutes just having a break out back. Whilst I do see if from their POV ... I also see it from mine: it can be exhausting being THE STRIPPER in the club that I value and have to have "ME" moments throughout the night to keep my sanity.

    I'm a huge introvert and so it takes alot of mental energy for me to be the extrovert. As I'm getting older, I'm finding it harder to put on the act of the extrovert...

    Windy, about the girls on stage when no guys are in there. That's pretty common. .... Just get up there and have fun with it!!
    I can empathise as I have been there. You know what I do? Since I know the guy is not watching me nor paying attention hence I personally will not loose any money by ignoring him yet I still need to be up there doing something --- use it as a time to practice! If your stage has a pole, practice pole tricks. If your stage doesn't have a pole, practice dancing (I always do to see what combinations of moves I can possible use both standing and on the floor)..... or even just fuck being sexy and dance however you damn well please (and thus use it as a time to get a cardio workout in a way..lol)

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